bush_cheney2004 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Canada has hate laws. There is a Canadian Nationalist Rally planned in Toronto. "Hate speech" is a crime in Canada....it is protected speech in the United States. Vast difference..... Edited August 16, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: "Hate speech" is a crime in Canada....it is protected speech in the United States. Yeah and we have Single-Payer Healthcare. They're different countries.
Michael Hardner Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Still waiting for some the alt-left wannabes from Canada to emphatically state/admit that American "white supremacists" have the right to "hate speech" and peaceful assembly without being attacked by alt-left criminals. Of course they do. But as you love to point out, might makes right. And these Nerdzi losers will be blacklisted and hounded everywhere. This one lives in Keene: http://nhpr.org/post/white-nationalist-who-participated-charlottesville-clashes-lives-keene#stream/0 For now, at least, until the rocks start coming though the window. To be clear, I am not happy with these events. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, Boges said: Yeah and we have Single-Payer Healthcare. They're different countries. Absolutely different going back to the very beginning. The American "racists" and rebels ran the loyalists out of the country while booting their monarch in the ass. Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Absolutely different going back to the very beginning. The American "racists" and rebels ran the loyalists out of the country while booting their monarch in the ass. And no need to have a costly bloody war to end Slavery.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 Canadian alt-left wannabes....so quick to denounce American constitutional rights (e.g. right to own and bear arms, free speech). Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Boges said: And no need to have a costly bloody war to end Slavery. Cheaper to just keep hosing the "aboriginals" and Francophones. Economics trumps Virtue.
drummindiver Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok then. You are making the mistake of applying contemporary values to the past. Rookie mistake, usually made by leftists who point out Lincoln was a racist etc. Not at all. It's used as a means of dealing with life, and the passing into the next life. Looking for a reason for being. There is none. This is it. Religion is a hoax, just like Chem trails.
dialamah Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) There is an anti-Muslim rally in Vancouver on Satuday. Also a group planning to counter-protest. Edited August 16, 2017 by dialamah
kimmy Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 3 hours ago, betsy said: The big question: Why are the leaders of these places - Charlottesville and Montreal - allowing these kind of vandalisms to happen? Why is the alt left, given such kind of destructive freedom? The Jefferson Davis plaque on Hudson's Bay building in Montreal was removed by decision of The Bay, not by vandals. It wasn't a great historical piece, it was donated by the United Daughters of the Confederacy in the 1950s. There wasn't really a good reason for a Canadian department store to display a plaque honoring a Confederate leader, especially a plaque donated by a shady group. -k (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
betsy Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said: So, you would clearly agree that if a larger group of people showed up and destroyed a monument to Malcolm X, MLK, or painted over a rainbow crosswalk, that would be justified based on the number of people involved? That's basically it. Quote If the majority of people don't want such a monument, then I guess the monument goes. I suppose she'll be counting before she'll take a stand! She'll be polling! Edited August 16, 2017 by betsy
betsy Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: POTUS is supposed to defend the rights of all Americans, not just the alt-left racists. They're a bunch of spoiled brats! Spoiled by Obama.
betsy Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Of course they do. But as you love to point out, might makes right. And these Nerdzi losers will be blacklisted and hounded everywhere. This one lives in Keene: http://nhpr.org/post/white-nationalist-who-participated-charlottesville-clashes-lives-keene#stream/0 For now, at least, until the rocks start coming though the window. To be clear, I am not happy with these events. I'm not happy with the outcome of the events! Bottomline: Charlottesville authorities f***ed up! The buck stops at the Mayor's doorstep! No wonder he's too quick to point the limelight at Trump! These two groups shouldn't have been allowed to converge at the same place! Furthermore, the alt left didn't even have a permit! Edited August 16, 2017 by betsy
dialamah Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 Ideally, the neo-Nazi and White Supremacists and their supporters in Canada could relocate to the States, to a leader who will be happy to provide them with what they so ardently desire.
betsy Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, dialamah said: Ideally, the neo-Nazi and White Supremacists and their supporters in Canada could relocate to the States, to a leader who will be happy to provide them with what they so ardently desire. Ideally, all left alt commies here should be shipped to Communist countries of their choice! We'll happily foot the bill! Edited August 16, 2017 by betsy
Michael Hardner Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 54 minutes ago, drummindiver said: Not at all. It's used as a means of dealing with life, and the passing into the next life. Looking for a reason for being. There is none. This is it. Religion is a hoax, just like Chem trails. You are missing the moral coding that allowed for building civil society Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Boges Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, betsy said: Ideally, all left alt commies here should be shipped to Communist countries of their choice! We'll happily foot the bill! That's a reasonable approach. How do we determine who are communists and who are not? Will we have Tribunals to figure out who's who?
dialamah Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, betsy said: Ideally, all left alt commies here should be shipped to Communist countries of their choice! We'll happily foot the bill! "Could relocate" = their choice. "Shipped off" = choice removed. Therein lies a major difference between us. 1
drummindiver Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: You are missing the moral coding that allowed for building civil society Oh please. Religion had nothing to do with that. That's called evolution. More immorality has been done in the name of religion than anything. Those alt right boy chiks are often/mostly religious zealots. I guess their moral coding didn't take. Edited August 16, 2017 by drummindiver
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Boges said: That's a reasonable approach. How do we determine who are communists and who are not? Will we have Tribunals to figure out who's who? Nah, just let them be denounced by friends, relatives or whoever and ship them off to camps. Just like the good old days in Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia. 1 "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Argus Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 17 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: It's hard to believe right-wing political discourse has degenerated so quickly that they are already trying to make the case that anti-racism is just as bad as racism. No one has made that case, nor even tried to make that case. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: It stops with the Republican party in shambles. Unfortunately, we're also seeing strong voices from the far Left in the Democratic party trying to draw the party much further to the Left. That will draw them even further away from the mainstream and open up the opportunity for Trump or someone like him (but maybe smarter) to gain power after him. Edited August 16, 2017 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: I'm not sure what you mean by alt left. I think it's a way to try to make anti-racism seem radical when in reality it's just now most normal people think. Some of the 'anti-racists' are extremely radical. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: Yes, the anti-racist counter to white supremacy. Or what we like to call, good people. The people who call themselves anti-racists or anti-fascists don't just counter white supremacy and nazis. A lot of them regard almost anyone on the right as a racist, here or in the US. Anyone who disagrees with immigration policy, for example, is racist. Certainly anyone who supports Trump will be accused of racism. And these groups will show up at any kind of right wing event or demonstration, wearing masks and hoods and trying to disrupt it, through violence if necessary. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 16, 2017 Report Posted August 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Boges said: HEY! You guys are protesting Neo Nazis and the KKK to vigorously! People are gonna die if you questions people's racism. I find the Left's protest tactics to be tedious and annoying as well. But I'm not going to condemn them from speaking out against unashamed racists. So you don't have a problem with someone grabbing a club and a helmet and a mask and beating up anyone they think is a racist? That would include anyone questioning immigration, by the way, or multiculturalism, or saying unkind things about Islam. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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