The Battle of Charlottesville

[betsy]

1 hour ago, Altai said:

Is not it funny that these people are called as "white nationalist" instead of "racist" ?  

Again again and again, word games to affect public perspective.

 

 

......must be funny to those who don't understand the big difference.  Or, to those who confuse fighting for one's own identity as being racist.

What's painfully funny to me is, the blatant double-standard that's lost to the stupid white folks who advocate for the annihilation of their own identity!  IN THEIR OWN LAND! 

And yet they go to great lengths to protect other groups'  identity.  I mean, if you're lost in your own land - where do you go from here?  Will you migrate to places like......Turkey?     Ask Altai if you're all welcome to come.

 

The alt left tear down the historical meaning of statues (an ugly, and painful past, but nevertheless a major part of history that shaped the nation to what it is today )........

............and yet they  fight for the symbolical meaning of the burqua - a kind of oppression that's currently happening around us!           How dysfunctional is that?

It must be psychological................this incredible low self-esteem.  Or genetic, this amazing stupidity.

 

 

I wonder if their white children will be the next ones to suffer such devastating loss of culture, and insecurity and hopelessness...... who'll be committing suicide en masse,  in the  future?

Edited August 16, 2017 by betsy

[betsy]

....and look at these copycats:

 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2017 by betsy

[betsy]

The big question:

 

Why are the leaders of these places - Charlottesville and Montreal -  allowing these kind of vandalisms to happen?

Why is the alt left,  given such kind of  destructive freedom?

Edited August 16, 2017 by betsy

[Chrissy1979]

1 hour ago, betsy said:

The big question:

 

Why are the leaders of these places - Charlottesville and Montreal -  allowing these kind of vandalisms to happen?

Why is the alt left,  given such kind of  destructive freedom?

Because normal people agree with them.

[betsy]

15 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Because normal people agree with them.

Vandalism is now "normal?" 

And, we need the approval of the alt left if we want to put something out on display!  See what I mean?  Left wing is dictatorial.  And they have the mob mentality! 

Vandalism and mob mentality...... to you, that's normal?  Oh boy.  Wave bye-bye to rational Canada. 

 

What happened to law and order?

See how the alt left thinks?   This, really, isn't a laughing matter.  They're the real threat.

Edited August 16, 2017 by betsy

[Chrissy1979]

I'm not sure what you mean by alt left. I think it's a way to try to make anti-racism seem radical when in reality it's just now most normal people think.

[betsy]

9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I'm not sure what you mean by alt left. I think it's a way to try to make anti-racism seem radical when in reality it's just now most normal people think.

 

alt left is the counter part of alt right.

Uhhh.....normal people don't think it's okay to vandalize, or to indulge in mob mentality.  It's not normal to accept bullies, nor is it normal to support bullying behaviours.

Normal people aren't disorientated, and confused with their principles, and values.   They aren't two-faced, giving mixed messages....or resorting to lies,  to suit their narratives. 

We don't consider sociopaths, nor those who shows some symptoms of it,  "normal people." 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2017 by betsy

[Chrissy1979]

Yes, the anti-racist counter to white supremacy. Or what we like to call, good people.

[betsy]

10 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Yes, the anti-racist counter to white supremacy.

 

They're extremists.

 

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Or what we like to call, good people.

That's what a sociopath could say, to justify his behaviour.

 

 

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[Chrissy1979]

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

They're extremists.

 

That's what a sociopath could say, to justify his behaviour.

Fortunately most people strongly disagree with you. That's why everyone one was outraged by Trump's"impartiality". It's easy for normal, loving people to take sides between racism and anti-racism.

[betsy]

8 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Fortunately most people strongly disagree with you.

Yeah, that's what I mean.  Mob mentaility.  Thanks.

Like as if right and wrong, are determined by numbers.

 

 

 

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That's why everyone one was outraged by Trump's"impartiality".

That's an outright lie!

Hello?  If it's "everyone," how come you got me and some others here who don't agree with you?  Why are we debating about this?

 

 

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It's easy for normal, loving people to take sides between racism and anti-racism.

 

You must mean, It's easy for normal, loving confused and gullible, and unimformed  people  - the sheeples - to make a SWEEPING judgement, and tarnish everyone with the same brush.

 

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[Chrissy1979]

8 minutes ago, betsy said:

Yeah, that's what I mean.  Mob mentaility.  Thanks.

Like as if right and wrong, are determined by numbers.

 

 

 

That's an outright lie!

Hello?  If it's "everyone," how come you got me and some others here who don't agree with you?  Why are we debating about this?

 

 

 

You must mean, It's easy for normal, loving confused and gullible, and unimformed  people  - the sheeples - to make a SWEEPING judgement, and tarnish everyone with the same brush.

 

I understand it must be hard to see the vast majority of the population disagree with you and think your ideas are hateful and wrong.

[bush_cheney2004]

2 hours ago, betsy said:

....that's why telling lies is just part of the alt left's ball game. 

They'll do anything!  I'm convinced that they don't care about anyone getting hurt or killed when they instigate violence.   That's part of their agenda. 

 

True...the Democrats suffered a complete collapse during the Obama administration and the emboldened alt-left haters, culminating in a huge backlash and Trump presidential win.

 

[Boges]

HEY! You guys are protesting Neo Nazis and the KKK to vigorously! People are gonna die if you questions people's racism. 

I find the Left's protest tactics to be tedious and annoying as well. But I'm not going to condemn them from speaking out against unashamed racists.

POTUS shouldn't either. . . But he's crazy. 

Edited August 16, 2017 by Boges

[DogOnPorch]

Luckily for these louts, there are no real Nazis left. 

Treblinka could handle thousands a day...

[Boges]

What you mean they don't have their own Wehrmacht? Well then. . . nothing to see here, just harmless racists with Tiki Torches. 

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

What you mean they don't have their own Wehrmacht? Well then. . . nothing to see here, just harmless racists with Tiki Torches. 

 

Some in that crowd might identify themselves as Nazis. Some might identify as Commies. But it's a big leap to go from a Tiki Torch march to the Fourth Reich....or from ANTIFA in masks to the Gulags. That takes a nation.

[Michael Hardner]

Those poor women-less dupes have ruined their lives.  They are going to be hounded extrajudicially Beyonce when is fair.

[Hal 9000]

33 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I understand it must be hard to see the vast majority of the population disagree with you and think your ideas are hateful and wrong.

So, you would clearly agree that if a larger group of people showed up and destroyed a monument to Malcolm X, MLK, or painted over a rainbow crosswalk, that would be justified based on the number of people involved?

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Some in that crowd might identify themselves as Nazis. Some might identify as Commies. But it's a big leap to go from a Tiki Torch march to the Fourth Reich....or from ANTIFA in masks to the Gulags. That takes a nation.

True. They're useless losers. But in this case the POTUS actively defends them. So that's a reason for concern. 

[drummindiver]

12 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Read up on the 1930s.

2. No, it's not a core belief of socialism.

3. Not people, ideas.  If you advocate for violence against a member of MLW the moderators could ban you permanently.

 

Clearly you have not read the vitriol espoused by certain lefties. Whatever.

Done lots of reading on history.  1930s were included.

Now you're moving goal posts. Can you name one communist leader who didn't use the manifesto to enslave and kill others whilst placing themselves upon pedestals? Bet you can't. 

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Boges said:

True. They're useless losers. But in this case the POTUS actively defends them. So that's a reason for concern. 

Which free speech should be eliminated?

Where do we stop?

Canada is already in that position...where we are actually thinking of enacting blasphemy laws to protect a religion that seeks to dominate us all.

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

Clearly you have not read the vitriol espoused by certain lefties. Whatever.

Done lots of reading on history.  1930s were included.

Now you're moving goal posts. Can you name one communist leader who didn't use the manifesto to enslave and kill others whilst placing themselves upon pedestals? Bet you can't. 

 

Much like with Islam, one asks: where is Communism working so I can see the true glory in action??...silence follows.

Edited August 16, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, drummindiver said:

Clearly you have not read the vitriol espoused by certain lefties. Whatever.

Done lots of reading on history.  1930s were included.

Now you're moving goal posts. Can you name one communist leader who didn't use the manifesto to enslave and kill others whilst placing themselves upon pedestals? Bet you can't. 

Core values=values that are part of the ideology itself.  I am not moving goalposts, this is my point: you can't fault the core philosophy for misappropriation of the ideas.  

Christianity is a good idea, despite deviant priests, residential schools etc.

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Which free speech should be eliminated?

Where do we stop?

Canada is already in that position...where we are actually thinking of enacting blasphemy laws to protect a religion that seeks to dominate us all.

You know there are people that do think that they don't have the right to protest. It's hate speech. 

But they do have that right. And people have the right to counter their protest and not get run over by people in cars that can't handle people questioning their worldviews. 

Edited August 16, 2017 by Boges