Argus Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Wilber said: Even so, they weren't picky. Arabs raided for slaves as far north as Ireland. Many white Christians could be found chained to the benches of their galleys. And how many Arab Muslims did they enslave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: 1920s I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 I'm sure Trump had no idea that part of his presidency would require speaking against the rights of groups to assemble and demonstrate in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, Michael Hardner said: I stand corrected. Yes....it was the Putsch in 1923 that landed Hitler in Landsberg Prison where he wrote Mein Kampf with Hess's assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy1979 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 It's hard to believe right-wing political discourse has degenerated so quickly that they are already trying to make the case that anti-racism is just as bad as racism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: And you think the Arabs were't racist? Okay, Mallone. Racism exists in just about, if not every society. Slavery by Europeans in the Americas was restricted entirely to Black Africans as well as local natives in parts of South and Central America. One wonders how it became that way. Economics to begin with I suppose. Black Africans were cheap I guess and because they were another race, easier to justify. Before that, Europeans used to enslave each other right and left. Even though the ancient Romans built an empire on slavery, they were not racist. Citizens and slaves came from all races and colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: It's hard to believe right-wing political discourse has degenerated so quickly that they are already trying to make the case that anti-racism is just as bad as racism. I'm sure the Taliban and ISIS etc feel they have good reasons to destroy history. Trying to be like them also requires a good enough reason. Everybody not you being a Nazi is a great start. Let the hate flow through you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, Wilber said: Racism exists in just about, if not every society. Slavery by Europeans in the Americas was restricted entirely to Black Africans as well as local natives in parts of South and Central America. One wonders how it became that way. Economics to begin with I suppose. Black Africans were cheap I guess and because they were another race, easier to justify. Before that, Europeans used to enslave each other right and left. Even though the ancient Romans built an empire on slavery, they were not racist. Citizens and slaves came from all races and colours. Islam is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Chrissy1979 said: It's hard to believe right-wing political discourse has degenerated so quickly that they are already trying to make the case that anti-racism is just as bad as racism. No one is saying that, not even Trump. The media is trying to make a false equivalency to label Trump a racist - it's quite tranparent. People are saying that the violence came equally from both sides. Just because one side has a philosophy that is less socially acceptable doesn't mean that the other side is without fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: It's hard to believe right-wing political discourse has degenerated so quickly that they are already trying to make the case that anti-racism is just as bad as racism. And even the Trump snugglers on here think things are looking up. General Lee = George Washington ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Islam is racist. So? That's their problem. White supremacists and neo nazis are our problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, Wilber said: So? That's their problem. White supremacists and neo nazis are our problem Should we perhaps grab some bats and go get 'em??? What's the plan?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: And even the Trump snugglers on here think things are looking up. General Lee = George Washington ! I like Lee as a historical figure. If I was a lowly soldier, I'd be hungrier in his Army...but far better led and likely to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Should we perhaps grab some bats and go get 'em??? What's the plan?? No, the plan should be to bathe them in sunlight, as individuals as well as groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Wilber said: No, the plan should be to bathe them in sunlight, as individuals as well as groups. Ah...let others use the bats. Smart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: And even the Trump snugglers on here think things are looking up. General Lee = George Washington ! Lee was the greater general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Wilber said: Lee was the greater general. Washington was a great general, as well. Shoestring budget...still pulled it off with a bit of Frog help at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: And even the Trump snugglers on here think things are looking up. General Lee = George Washington ! The comparisons from the far left point of view is actually similar. The left wants Jackson taken off of their currency. As Trump said, where does it stop? Well, for the leftists, it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Ah...let others use the bats. Smart! No bats. I don't think fighting it out with these guys in the streets is productive. The actions of ANTIFA actually gets them some support that might not otherwise be forthcoming. The responses of some on this forum should make that clear. Shining bright lights on who and what they really are would be much better. That and ignoring their demonstrations. Let them stand in the park alone with nobody to demonstrate against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wilber said: No bats. I don't think fighting it out with these guys in the streets is productive. The actions of ANTIFA actually gets them some support that might not otherwise be forthcoming. The responses of some on this forum should make that clear. Shining bright lights on who and what they really are would be much better. That and ignoring their demonstrations. Let them stand in the park alone with nobody to demonstrate against. Alone, eh? No bats, eh? But bathe them in light, eh? Right..... And who gets to decide who is and who is not a True Scotm...errr...Nazi, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Alone, eh? No bats, eh? But bathe them in light, eh? Right..... And who gets to decide who is and who is not a True Scotm...errr...Nazi, again? We do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, Wilber said: We do. As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, what do you mean "we", whiteman? What if you are suddenly the target of the Witchfinder General? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 By we, I mean the public holding these people accountable for what they say and do. Several of these guys have lost their jobs over this. I would hope a few ANTIFAS would as well. As has been said many times, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences, just that you can't be put in jail for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Wilber said: By we, I mean the public holding these people accountable for what they say and do. Several of these guys have lost their jobs over this. I would hope a few ANTIFAS would as well. As has been said many times, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences, just that you can't be put in jail for it. Sounds an awful lot like an down-home ol' fashioned witchhunt to moi. Let me get my pitchfork. Edited August 16, 2017 by DogOnPorch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Sounds an awful lot like an down-home ol' fashioned witchhunt to moi. Let me get my pitchfork. So you would like bats and a few lynchings better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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