Argus Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 The Liberals are proposing, once again, through unilateral changes to the rules of parliament, to give the government new and draconion power to limit debate and push through legislation. It would let liberal ministers adjourn the house for any reason, and let the government prorogue parliament for any reason. I guess this is by way of illustrating that wonderful respect for parliament Trudeau talked so eloquently about prior to the election. I don't believe I've seen Coyne quite so sarcastic in quite some time. The latest chance to refresh our acquaintance with how deeply cynical the Trudeau people are — not have become: are — is the clutch of grubby expedients the government is now trying to stuff down the opposition’s throats, in the name, prettily, of “parliamentary reform.” Scholars of the Trudeau style will recognize the expression “reform,” like “merit-based appointments” and “evidence-based policy,” as a tell that some kind of humbug is afoot, and this is no exception: this is no more aimed at genuine reform of parliament than the Harper government’s Fair Elections Act was aimed at making elections fair. http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/andrew-coyne-renewed-attempt-to-rewrite-house-rules-shows-liberals-are-not-to-be-trusted 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 If Stephen Harper ever tried this, the Nazi references would be loud and plentiful. JT is the worst. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 JT is a Nazi too. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Argus said: The Liberals are proposing, once again, through unilateral changes to the rules of parliament, to give the government new and draconion power to limit debate and push through legislation. It would let liberal ministers adjourn the house for any reason, and let the government prorogue parliament for any reason. I guess this is by way of illustrating that wonderful respect for parliament Trudeau talked so eloquently about prior to the election. I don't believe I've seen Coyne quite so sarcastic in quite some time. The latest chance to refresh our acquaintance with how deeply cynical the Trudeau people are — not have become: are — is the clutch of grubby expedients the government is now trying to stuff down the opposition’s throats, in the name, prettily, of “parliamentary reform.” Scholars of the Trudeau style will recognize the expression “reform,” like “merit-based appointments” and “evidence-based policy,” as a tell that some kind of humbug is afoot, and this is no exception: this is no more aimed at genuine reform of parliament than the Harper government’s Fair Elections Act was aimed at making elections fair. http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/andrew-coyne-renewed-attempt-to-rewrite-house-rules-shows-liberals-are-not-to-be-trusted Well, we can only blame the people who voted for trudeau and his liberals. It seems that Canadians just never seem to learn from history that liberalism is all about screwing things up, and making life hard for we the people. What have the liberals ever done for Canada or Canadians which was of any benefit for we the people? If someone can tell me please do so because I certainly cannot think of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just Liberal arrogance for democracy - remember the draconian motion 6 which took away the oppositions ability to delay a Bill. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 minute ago, scribblet said: Just Liberal arrogance for democracy - remember the draconian motion 6 which took away the oppositions ability to delay a Bill. This expands on that idea. Trudeau - and I said this before he got elected - showed all the signs of a man who was uninterested in other people's opinions if they disagreed with his. He does not like disagreement or dissent. Not on any issue he considers to be important, anyway. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Argus said: This expands on that idea. Trudeau - and I said this before he got elected - showed all the signs of a man who was uninterested in other people's opinions if they disagreed with his. He does not like disagreement or dissent. Not on any issue he considers to be important, anyway. They are about the most duplicitous of gov'ts and it only took 18 months or less for us to find that out. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 hours ago, eyeball said: JT is a Nazi too. No, he is much more like Neville Chamberlain than he is like Herr Shicklgruber 1 Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 57 minutes ago, Argus said: This expands on that idea. Trudeau - and I said this before he got elected - showed all the signs of a man who was uninterested in other people's opinions if they disagreed with his. He does not like disagreement or dissent. Not on any issue he considers to be important, anyway. I think you give him too much credit. I'm not convinced he has opinions on many things. His handlers do, of course, and he has become adept at parroting those memes and talking points when instructed. It is his profession really- he is a professional dramatist and staying in character and costume is well within his skill set. I doubt he has any interest in mundane shit like the economy. He really, truly is cut from the same cloth as his father. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 The passage of this Bill would be a wonderful vehicle to hurry through some unpopular legislation... somehting like ranked ballots as electoral reform....hmmmmm? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, overthere said: No, he is much more like Neville Chamberlain than he is like Herr Shicklgruber Utter hyperbole. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Utter hyperbole. Most every post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Once again, the Liberals show us their arrogance. What a vile group of twits. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Once again, the Liberals show us their arrogance. What a vile group of twits. Nazis is fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Canadians talk incessantly about Trump being a fascist, all the while the Canadian Liberals have moved way more toward fascism than Trump ever will. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Hal 9000 said: Canadians talk incessantly about Trump being a fascist, all the while the Canadian Liberals have moved way more toward fascism than Trump ever will. Are Canadian Liberals talking about marginalizing racial minorities, are they encouraging pogroms against "others"? Xenophobia has always been a big team sport in the US, and it has infected Canada too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 18 hours ago, overthere said: No, he is much more like Neville Chamberlain than he is like Herr Shicklgruber You are right in one respect, he has been placating the USA. But that has been going on for a good long time even as the US has been doing things the equal of the Nazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 It would seem that yet again, nothing can be defined in Canadian terms....it is always some other group taking the lead, be it Nazis or Americans or "USA". This is normal in Canada...all is well. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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