America under President Trump

taxme · May 19, 2017

Just now, Omni said:

I would imagine AF One has wifi so Trump will have heard the latest. I bet he is "white hot" again and stomping up and down the aisles, since he apparently doesn't drink.

A great quality in a man who has taught his children how to make it in the world. Trump told them that they need not drink or smoke to try and get along and ahead in life. A good work ethic, and wanting to get ahead in life is all that is needed. But that is too much common sense and logic for you to figure out, eh?

Omni · May 19, 2017

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

A great quality in a man who has taught his children how to make it in the world. Trump told them that they need not drink or smoke to try and get along and ahead in life. A good work ethic, and wanting to get ahead in life is all that is needed. But that is too much common sense and logic for you to figure out, eh?

And of course by the time AF1 touches down in the ME, the news will be out there and the Saudis will be able to have a little fun with him, especially after all his anti Muslim rhetoric.

Queenmandy85 · May 19, 2017

I don't know if President Trump or Secretary Clinton are guilty of anything. Each are presumed innocent unless proven guilty. I don't hate either of them.

Politics in the USA and, to a lesser extent, in Canada have become too partisan. Democracy functions best if two political opponents can vehemently disagree and then go have coffee together. We are losing respect for those with whom we disagree. It really doesn't matter if one is liberal or conservative, the solution to problems is the same. The best political leader is the one who, when pushed out of power, can laugh about it.

Queenmandy85 · May 19, 2017

1 hour ago, taxme said:

. The only countries that despise Trump are the dictator ones, and that pretty much includes all countries. Trump puts them to shame, and Trump is starting to make the many people of many countries aware of their governments of being nothing more than a gang of puppet politicians who's strings are pulled by the globalist elite. What the president says keeps worrying all the politically correct politicians of all countries around the world, and that includes Canada, and it's dictator PM.

The difficulty does not lie with countries that despise President Trump. America's friends are finding it difficult to find consistency in trade and foreign policies. Undoubtedly, some of this is due to inexperience but it is going to hurt American companies if it becomes too difficult to do business with them.

bush_cheney2004 · May 19, 2017

34 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

The difficulty does not lie with countries that despise President Trump. America's friends are finding it difficult to find consistency in trade and foreign policies. Undoubtedly, some of this is due to inexperience but it is going to hurt American companies if it becomes too difficult to do business with them.

Agreed, and this is exactly what one would expect from an anti-globalist agenda. They aren't too happy with Brexit either, or a collapsing EU.

WestCoastRunner · May 19, 2017

1 hour ago, taxme said:

A great quality in a man who has taught his children how to make it in the world. Trump told them that they need not drink or smoke to try and get along and ahead in life. A good work ethic, and wanting to get ahead in life is all that is needed. But that is too much common sense and logic for you to figure out, eh?

Wrong. Ivana Trump raised the 3 kids single handedly after their divorce until they were 21. She gets full credit.

Queenmandy85 · May 19, 2017

One of the benefits of globalism, in theory, is the more intertwined economies are, the less chances of war. Tribal warfare plagued Europe for thousands of years. The EU is an attempt to overcome that. Hopefully, President Trump will be able to recognize that.

Edited May 19, 2017 by Queenmandy85

bush_cheney2004 · May 19, 2017

Just now, Queenmandy85 said:

One of the benefits of globalism, in theory, is the more intertwined economies are, the less chances of war.

No shortages for war before Trump came along, and he was never a politician complicit in such things like those who criticize him now.

Trump didn't create the "mess".

Queenmandy85 · May 20, 2017

I wasn't saying President Trump created a mess, I meant there hasn't been a war between France, Germany and England in over 70 years. That has to be something of a record.

DogOnPorch · May 20, 2017

4 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I wasn't saying President Trump created a mess, I meant there hasn't been a war between France, Germany and England in over 70 years. That has to be something of a record.

A little thing called a 100 kt air-burst is the reason for that.

bush_cheney2004 · May 20, 2017

11 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I wasn't saying President Trump created a mess, I meant there hasn't been a war between France, Germany and England in over 70 years. That has to be something of a record.

OK, but again, what does that have to do with Trump's America ? If it takes any American president to keep France, Germany, and the U.K. from slaughtering each other again, then they have serious problems beyond anything that can be solved by confidence in the United States. Same thing goes for the Korean peninsula.

President Trump is pressuring these fragile economic and military alliances to pay up or face the music. And that includes Canada.

Hal 9000 · May 20, 2017

5 hours ago, Omni said:

The wheels are hardly in the wells on Air Force One and the latest, possibly biggest bombshell is dropped.

WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html

How is that a bombshell? Usually, when you fire someone you feel you are solving a problem.

Bob Macadoo · May 20, 2017

Like when Nixon had Cox fired........too true. I really hope Trump has Nixonesque tapes......just watched that Nixon on Nixon......very entertaining.

Omni · May 20, 2017

1 minute ago, Hal 9000 said:

How is that a bombshell? Usually, when you fire someone you feel you are solving a problem.

Except, and for the umpteenth time, his approach to solving this particular problem may well be illegal, and impeachable.

Omni · May 20, 2017

Just now, Bob Macadoo said:

Like when Nixon had Cox fired........too true. I really hope Trump has Nixonesque tapes......just watched that Nixon on Nixon......very entertaining.

I'm sure he does and it's now a matter of the courts subpoenaing them to confirm what he said. I suspect there must be some folks close to him who want him gone. The NY Times didn't go to the WH to find this story, it must have come to them.

Hal 9000 · May 20, 2017

4 minutes ago, Omni said:

Except, and for the umpteenth time, his approach to solving this particular problem may well be illegal, and impeachable.

There was plenty to fire comey over. The way Comey handled the Russian issue from the beginning to the day he got fired was inappropriate. He even admitted that he may have had an impact on the election - he used poor judgement, went outside his authority and lost the trust of everybody. That's good enough, and any lawyer in the world will win that argument.

Edited May 20, 2017 by Hal 9000

Omni · May 20, 2017

Just now, Hal 9000 said:

There was plenty to fire come over. The way Comey handled the Russian issue from the beginning to the day he got fired was inappropriate. He even admitted that he may have had an impact on the election - he used poor judgement, went outside his authority and lost the trust of everybody. That's good enough, and any lawyer in the world will win that argument.

You don't understand obstruction apparently. Trump has the authority to fire the head of the FBI no doubt. Doing it to stop an investigation involving Trump is a whole different matter.

Hal 9000 · May 20, 2017

I understand completely, I also understand that you are making huge leaps in knowing what Trump is thinking. That's not good enough, Comey felt pressured, yet filed no report and didn't slow the investigation - he ramped it up? Doesn't sound like a guy under pressure to dump a case to me. A decent lawyer will rip Comey's memo to shreds.

Comey wasn't actually the investigator...and the investigation goes on. Firing somebody doesn't and was never gonna change that.

As Dershowitz says, "where's the crime?". Sorry dude, you're watching too much Maddow.

Hal 9000 · May 20, 2017

BTW - Colluding with Russia is not actually a crime.

Omni · May 20, 2017

10 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

BTW - Colluding with Russia is not actually a crime.

13 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

I understand completely, I also understand that you are making huge leaps in knowing what Trump is thinking. That's not good enough, Comey felt pressured, yet filed no report and didn't slow the investigation - he ramped it up? Doesn't sound like a guy under pressure to dump a case to me. A decent lawyer will rip Comey's memo to shreds.

Comey wasn't actually the investigator...and the investigation goes on. Firing somebody doesn't and was never gonna change that.

As Dershowitz says, "where's the crime?". Sorry dude, you're watching too much Maddow.

You apparently don't, based on what you're saying. Yes the investigation goes on. That does not change the fact Comey was the investigator and was fired, and if Trump did in fact say what he is reported to have in an Oval Office meeting, the firing is clearly obstruction. It matters not a whit in law, that the firing didn't actually stop the investigation.

Wilber · May 20, 2017

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I wasn't saying President Trump created a mess, I meant there hasn't been a war between France, Germany and England in over 70 years. That has to be something of a record.

Is it any wonder they don't want to go there again. Germany is comfortable without nukes even though the other two have them. That is a huge change from the pre 1939 Europe.

Hal 9000 · May 20, 2017

11 minutes ago, Omni said:

You apparently don't, based on what you're saying. Yes the investigation goes on. That does not change the fact Comey was the investigator and was fired, and if Trump did in fact say what he is reported to have in an Oval Office meeting, the firing is clearly obstruction. It matters not a whit in law, that the firing didn't actually stop the investigation.

I think you're gonna need more than that. All you really have is a guy giving his unwanted opinion, inappropriate maybe, but not criminal.

Omni · May 20, 2017

1 minute ago, Hal 9000 said:

I think you're gonna need more than that. All you really have is a guy giving his unwanted opinion, inappropriate maybe, but not criminal.

What "unwanted opinion" are you talking about? The latest bombshell is the reported opinion of a guy by the name of Donald Trump.

OftenWrong · May 20, 2017

17 hours ago, Omni said:

OK where is Trump going to stumble first

On the golf course, apparently. Russian golfers :rolleyes:

Omni · May 20, 2017

2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

On the golf course, apparently. Russian golfers

Don't think Russia is on the agenda. However I posted that not long before AF1 took of this am. I didn't realize the latest stumble had already occurred. And this one was bigly.