America under President Trump

[bush_cheney2004]

52 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Even these don't support your thesis.  Limits to power exist.

2. Not Utopia but reality.  You ignored my point, which reveals your lack of defense.  In the past, you became very snowflakish on this point and even blubbered to the mods.

3. Yes, as fantasy.  Americans hate reality, as evidenced by you.  But you have the biggest hamburgers, the most famous president-rapists etc.  Be comforted.

 

There is no thesis, and your point doesn't need a "defense".    You hear and feel American footsteps wherever you go, by your own admission.

It is you who do the most blubbering...about "fake news"....hate speech....and whatever the Americans are doing to upset your virtue signaling world.      Too bad...reality doesn't really care about your personal or political insecurities.

Sorry, but Trump matters more than Trudeau...and always will.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

It is you who do the most blubbering...about "fake news"....hate speech....and whatever the Americans are doing to upset your virtue signaling world.      Too bad...reality doesn't really care about your personal or political insecurities.

Once again, you have no defense to your incongruous appeals to chaos and to patriotism.

I don't blubber, I criticize.  And I don't go to the mods when my outsized American feelings are hurt.  Trump matters, boo hoo, feel better...

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Once again, you have no defense to your incongruous appeals to chaos and to patriotism.

I don't blubber, I criticize.  And I don't go to the mods when my outsized American feelings are hurt.  Trump matters, boo hoo, feel better...

 

Look, if you want to attack me personally,  continue doing so in that other forum (echo chamber) as you have done in the past.   I will not go low here based on your laundry list of pitiful complaints and despair.   Contrary to your views, Trump is not a "mole" and I served on the front lines against the "evil" Russians before you were even of voting age, and I certainly didn't see you there then or now.   Does that mean you love the Russians ?

America engages and emerges from chaos even better than before, just as it always has.    Trump was elected to break things, and he is doing a marvelous job.   Your continued whining about it and impotence to do anything about it is just icing on the cake.

[taxme]

On 7/1/2019 at 6:29 PM, Michael Hardner said:

 

The guards are said to harrass inmates with no accountability or action from management.  AOC asks how this is related to lack of budget ?  This is just inhumanity.  

 

What else to these criminals expect? Be brought to hotels and get to stay in a luxury hotel for free until they get processed? They should have stayed home from whence they came. They now get fed, clothed, housed, free medical, dental and eye care for all? They entered America illegally by the tens of thousands and all had to be put together in a detention area somewhere on the border. The guards were not trained or were ready for all of this illegality going on at the border. What that commie loving liberal democrat hero of the left AOC should be doing is to be the first one to say enough already. Stop all illegal criminal illegal immigrants from entering America at the border. The woman is an ass. She has no love for white America. She wants to destroy white America and turn that white America into a third world hell hole wonderful socialist and communist so called paradise.

When a company wanted to supply new beds for those criminal illegals at the border detention stations the democrats were the first to stop and fight against the supply of those new beds. And then people say that the democrats are so compassionate and caring? Feed that bull chit to idiots who will believe that silly azz nonsense. Trump wants to stop all of this illegality going on at the border and all he ever gets from the democrats like AOC is attacks and accusations of being a racist. It is a human rights crisis and it all started with the democrats way back when. The democrats and the republicans like Bush and other RINO'S are the guilty ones for what is going on at the border. The smell of waste must be something unbelievable to imagine. But do not blame Trump for no showers. Blame the democrats who refuse to do anything about the mess except to continue to whine and cry and try to make things even worse and blaming Trump for the mess. 

Btw, the last I heard Trump has 61 million followers on Twitter. Pretty impressive, eh MH?   

[taxme]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Look, if you want to attack me personally,  continue doing so in that other forum (echo chamber) as you have done in the past.   I will not go low here based on your laundry list of pitiful complaints and despair.   Contrary to your views, Trump is not a "mole" and I served on the front lines against the "evil" Russians before you were even of voting age, and I certainly didn't see you there then or now.   Does that mean you love the Russians ?

America engages and emerges from chaos even better than before, just as it always has.    Trump was elected to break things, and he is doing a marvelous job.   Your continued whining about it and impotence to do anything about it is just icing on the cake.

What are people like MH going to do when Trump is put back in the White House for another four more years?  Yikes!  

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

1. Look, if you want to attack me personally,  continue doing so in that other forum (echo chamber) as you have done in the past.   I will not go low here based on your laundry list of pitiful complaints and despair. 

2. Contrary to your views, Trump is not a "mole" and I served on the front lines against the "evil" Russians before you were even of voting age, and I certainly didn't see you there then or now.   Does that mean you love the Russians ?

3. America engages and emerges from chaos even better than before, just as it always has.    Trump was elected to break things, and he is doing a marvelous job.   Your continued whining about it and impotence to do anything about it is just icing on the cake.

1. Off topic.  I have not attacked you.  Stop crying.  Your bad logic is what is in question.  I have actually said that you aren't a troll.

2. This is some fantasy.  

3. Again, you are ignoring the point.  People are elected to make things better but not destroy the system, act immorally and defile the values of your republic.  To put your hands over your eyes and pretend there is purpose to it is denial.  You claim to be a patriot but it's actually unpatriotic to support these methods.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, taxme said:

What are people like MH going to do when Trump is put back in the White House for another four more years?  Yikes!  

 

The same things they did when G.W. Bush was re-elected in 2004.    They are very fragile that way.   Maybe protest by boycotting more Heinz ketchup, which is ironically a John Kerry family asset.

Trump may or may not win another term in 2020, but either way, he is just another American president, that seemingly has so much power over their lives....in Canada.   Because they let him.

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Off topic.  I have not attacked you.  Stop crying.  Your bad logic is what is in question.  I have actually said that you aren't a troll.

2. This is some fantasy.  

3. Again, you are ignoring the point.  People are elected to make things better but not destroy the system, act immorally and defile the values of your republic.  To put your hands over your eyes and pretend there is purpose to it is denial.  You claim to be a patriot but it's actually unpatriotic to support these methods.

 

Don't shine me on....JMT finally got your other playpen back up....that's where you hide while attacking me (and other MLW members) personally about Trump as a Russian mole and my lack of "patriotism".

I will stand by my military service record, and await your glorious reports of defending the motherland through vicarious American experiences.

Donald Trump is the President of the United States of America, and there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about that.

 

Edited July 8, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[GostHacked]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

It's good to know the difference between the constitution which Americans defend and uphold and the federal government which they do not actually report to.

Also note that the US government does not respect it's citizens or The Constitution.

Examples?  Bush's PATRIOT ACT  and Obama's NDAA.  Maybe Trump will do the right thing and toss all that out. But I am not that naive enough to believe that any POTUS has any real power in the USA. Hence 20 years of the failed Global War on Terror.

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Too bad Canadians are such sycophants to their own lawlessly corrupt and incompetent government and never learn from Americans when it comes to seeking to limit government rather than centralize all power in a Nanny Police State to run every aspect of your lives for you as infantilized invalids.

Interesting that most of us here are Canadians and if you read over in those Canadian parts, you'll find out how pissed we actually are at our current SJW prettyboy Justin Trudeau. Oh I can do more. You should see Ontario's current premier. Fack, I'll go one more for you. How about a failed mayor of Canada's capital.

I get your what you are going for in your style of posting, and well, it seems you are trying too hard. But I appreciate the effort.

[GostHacked]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

SaudiArabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan, Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain are the ones at war with Yemen.

True, and they all are doing it with war machines sold to them that were built in the good ol USA.  And no you are not going to win here. Canada sold Saudi Arabia some machine's and trust me, Canadians are not happy with the hypocrisy our government's stance is taking.

I wonder which ones our government loves more. The Shiite terrorists or the Shia terrorists?

 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Flight 655 was a military mishap.

All the better reason to avoid another 'mishap'. Hopefully one would hope to learn from past mistakes. 

[Michael Hardner]

31 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Donald Trump is the President of the United States of America, and there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about that.

 

Yes, I can complain.  Your excessive sensitivity doesn't live up to your claims of toughness.  Relax, you still have the biggest burger.

If I criticized you over there, I don't remember it although your faulty patriotism certainly would be a weak point. I certainly don't seem to think about you as much as you do me.  I won't report to to the moderators but please stop stalking me. 

[bush_cheney2004]

36 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yes, I can complain.  Your excessive sensitivity doesn't live up to your claims of toughness.  Relax, you still have the biggest burger.

If I criticized you over there, I don't remember it although your faulty patriotism certainly would be a weak point. I certainly don't seem to think about you as much as you do me.  I won't report to to the moderators but please stop stalking me. 

 

Indeed...complaining is something you are very good at.

You can also continue to attack me and other MLW members over there, because that is what your ilk does (e.g. msg # 50283).  

Patriotism for me and many other Americans includes the right to free speech (including "hate speech") and political freedom to support the candidate and views of their choice.   It does not include the limits on liberty that you support in Canada in the name of "peace, order, and good goverment", or try to project on the American body politic.

You can watch...but you can't play.

 

Edited July 8, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

Also note that the US government does not respect it's citizens or The Constitution.

Examples?  Bush's PATRIOT ACT  and Obama's NDAA.  Maybe Trump will do the right thing and toss all that out. But I am not that naive enough to believe that any POTUS has any real power in the USA. Hence 20 years of the failed Global War on Terror.

Well the issue with the PATRIOT ACT is that the Executive is being authorized to override the fourth amendment in certain narrow circumstances under Article II war powers, so I would assert that the PATRIOT ACT is in fact constitutional, since Article II is in the constitution, rather what the PATRIOT ACT essentially does is invoke martial law.

Martial law is not unconstitutional per se, you could say it's draconian, you could say it's unwarranted, you could say it's exessive, and you'd be welcome to those opinions, but I think "unconstitutional" is a fallacy, because the Executive does actually have broad authorities in time of war, it's just a question of getting Congress to authorize it, which they did.

Now bear in mind that the President can't actually revoke the PATRIOT ACT,  because it is a law, and only Congress can repeal a law.

You should also bear in mind that we don't have the sames sorts of protections as the Americans do, here in Canada, CSIS and CSE don't need a PATRIOT ACT to spy on you here, the power of the monarchy in Canada gives them practical carte blanche with no effective oversight at all, so the Americans still have it way better than we do, PATRIOT ACT notwithstanding.  And at least the PATRIOT ACT is public knowledge, in Canada spying is totally opaque and they don't have to reveal anything they are doing and they don't.

In the case of the NDAA I think you must be confused, because the NDAA has to do with the budget, it's just a spending bill, whatever is budgeted in the NDAA has already been enacted by some other law or executive action prior to, what directive of President Obama's are you specifically taking issue with?

Edited July 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

You can watch...but you can't play.

 

I found the post.  It's a valid comment on your flawed support of an anti-American icon.  Go ahead and register so you can ask the moderator to help you.

[bush_cheney2004]

14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I found the post.  It's a valid comment on your flawed support of an anti-American icon.  Go ahead and register so you can ask the moderator to help you.

 

Good for you...glad to help with your "memory".   (Methinks you are still butt hurt about getting sacked as a MLW mod due to overreach and abuse of private messages.)

I am free to "support" any American icon I wish to.    I didn't vote for President Trump in 2016, but will most certainly do so in 2020 should he appear on our ballot.  He is wonderfully disruptive of the status quo, and more chaotic than he promised to be.    He is very entertaining and drives lefty "progressives" apoplectic...even in other nations like Canada.  Trump has higher job approval ratings than Trudeau, Merkel, Macron, and the dearly departed former PM May.

Your cross border outrage is an excellent barometer for just how well President Trump is doing....hope he keeps it up.

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

1. Good for you...glad to help with your "memory".   (Methinks you are still butt hurt about getting sacked as a MLW mod due to overreach and abuse of private messages.)

2. I am free to "support" any American icon I wish to.    I didn't vote for President Trump in 2016, but will most certainly do so in 2020 should he appear on our ballot. 

3. He is wonderfully ...

1. Had I known you were examining my every word, I would have never mentioned you.  It's a little creepy.  You can ask the mods if you want to take credit for sacking me.

2. No doubt.  You are also free to whimper when people point out that your logic doesn't follow.  Now it seems like you might have voted for Killery? Ok then.  Your President wasn't worthy of your own vote, but you feel the need to defend the erosion of your own values.  It's deviant thinking.

3. No.

[bush_cheney2004]

12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Had I known you were examining my every word, I would have never mention you.  It's a little creepy.  You can ask the mods if you want cred for sacking me.

2. No doubt.  You are also free to whimper when people point out that your logic doesn't follow.  Now it seems like you might have voted for Killery? Ok then.  Your President wasn't worthy of your own vote, but you feel the need to defend the erosion of your own values.  It's deviant thinking.

3. No.

 

FYI, American voters are presented with many major and minor party candidates in their respective state ballots.   I didn't vote for Trump because of fiscal excess that he supported, but smaller deficits and lower debt are now very out of favour.   I most certainly did not vote for Sec'y Clinton, and neither did enough American "patriots" to deny Mr. Trump the presidency.

American values are for Americans, not wannabe progressive Canadians who wish they had more influence on the show that really matters.

Americans will choose their next president, and you will have to deal with it because it seems to matter so much....again.   Not very logical.

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Michael Hardner]

12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Americans will choose their next president...

You seem to think that posting obvious things repeatedly will shut me up.  It won't.  Your President is deficient and the qualification for saying so isn't "being American".

[QuebecOverCanada]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You seem to think that posting obvious things repeatedly will shut me up.  It won't.  Your President is deficient and the qualification for saying so isn't "being American".

Of course not.

But being anti american isn't a qualification to be a President.

Say that to the Democrats running this year. 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

You seem to think that posting obvious things repeatedly will shut me up.  It won't.  Your President is deficient and the qualification for saying so isn't "being American".

 

...and you seem to think that repeating such bleating will stop/change Trump.  It won't.

Trump is my president...not yours.  Go find your own if you really need one so badly.

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

1. ...and you seem to think that repeating such bleating will stop/change Trump.  It won't.

2. Trump is my president...not yours.  Go find your own if you really need one so badly.

1. We are on a discussion forum.

2. Go to #1.

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

But being anti american isn't a qualification to be a President.

Say that to the Democrats running this year. 

What?  If you are going to jump into a discussion, try to bring something that will help it along.

[GostHacked]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

...and you seem to think that repeating such bleating will stop/change Trump.  It won't.

Trump is my president...not yours.  Go find your own if you really need one so badly.

So you are going to stop posting anything related to Canada? Yeah did not think so.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. We are on a discussion forum.

 

Great....we can all discuss the presidency of Donald Trump...45th president of the United States.

That would be President Trump....Commander in Chief...top executive officer of the United States.

President Trump is currently in his first term, enjoying the challenges, opportunities, and responsibilities of the office.

Buoyed by a very strong economy, President Trump is seeking  a second term in office on the Republican ticket, and is assured his party's nomination in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Isn't it fascinating to watch American politics...gosh...it gets so much attention, even in foreign countries like Canada and Mexico !

 

[Zeitgeist]

51 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Great....we can all discuss the presidency of Donald Trump...45th president of the United States.

That would be President Trump....Commander in Chief...top executive officer of the United States.

President Trump is currently in his first term, enjoying the challenges, opportunities, and responsibilities of the office.

Buoyed by a very strong economy, President Trump is seeking  a second term in office on the Republican ticket, and is assured his party's nomination in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Isn't it fascinating to watch American politics...gosh...it gets so much attention, even in foreign countries like Canada and Mexico !

 

Yeah because we enjoy circuses.  Don’t worry we have our own distinctly Canadian shitshow.