Owly Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Realitycheck said: he is just ridding himself of the honest ones who counsel following the constitution rather than circumventing it. He is doing a good job of FILLING the swamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realitycheck Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Owly said: He is doing a good job of FILLING the swamp. Once the swamp is drained all which is left is the scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 President Trump's approval rating in the US has held more or less steady at 40 - 43% for the past 12 months. https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx Continuous outrage by some on the left, irregardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realitycheck Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: President Trump's approval rating in the US has held more or less steady at 40 - 43% for the past 12 months. https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx Continuous outrage by some on the left, irregardless. "Regardless" That means 57% to 60% disapprove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Realitycheck said: "Regardless" That means 57% to 60% disapprove. No it means that 51-56% disapprove, while 40-44% approve. His numbers at this point are fairly similar to Obama, who was re-elected. Just because only 40-44% approve according to polls doesn't mean you'll only get 40-44% of the vote, that's not how approval ratings work. You don't run against yourself, you run against an opponent, and the Democrat who wins the nomination isn't going to be a formidable opponent, so Trump is going to pull in a lot more 44% of the vote, bet that. Edited April 8, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: No it means that 51-56% disapprove, while 40-44% approve. His numbers at this point are fairly similar to Obama, who was re-elected. Just because only 40-44% approve according to polls doesn't mean you'll only get 40-44% of the vote, that's not how approval ratings work. You don't run against yourself, you run against an opponent, and the Democrat who wins the nomination isn't going to be a formidable opponent, so Trump is going to pull in a lot more 44% of the vote, bet that. Trumps approval ratings are nowhere near Obamas two years in. Obama approval was at 50.2%, Trump at 39.6%. Disapproval Trump 55.9%, Obama 43.3%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 Generally the approval ratings for most presidents are low I think. An approval rating of 40% is fairly typical. Trump's approval rating is remarkable because it holds up in the face of such intense media adversity. The negative PR he gets does not reflect in these polls. It's a mystery how he survives it, and not only survive, he does quite well in spite of it. Maybe even BECAUSE of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 Now that Kirstjen Neilsen has been ousted it looks like Stephen Miller is now in charge of the borders. Not that I was ever a fan of Nielsen, but Trump has really found a new swamp scum makes any sensible persons skin crawl. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/center-trump-s-homeland-chaos-stephen-miller-lone-survivor-n992196 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Generally the approval ratings for most presidents are low I think. An approval rating of 40% is fairly typical. Trump's approval rating is remarkable because it holds up in the face of such intense media adversity. The negative PR he gets does not reflect in these polls. It's a mystery how he survives it, and not only survive, he does quite well in spite of it. Maybe even BECAUSE of it. His approval ratings hardly ever move because the right wing, poorly educated crowd that support him don't know any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 Just now, Owly said: His approval ratings hardly ever move because the right wing, poorly educated crowd that support him don't know any better. As yes...deplorables. Dragging their knuckles and such. Oh, how I loath them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 Just now, DogOnPorch said: As yes...deplorables. Dragging their knuckles and such. Oh, how I loath them... No you don't. That's well shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 Just now, Owly said: No you don't. That's well shown. One might think that a lesson was learned, Hillary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realitycheck Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Owly said: His approval ratings hardly ever move because the right wing, poorly educated crowd that support him don't know any better. Well, they are, for the most part, religious. Thus they are well trained to ignore facts in favour of mythology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: One might think that a lesson was learned, Hillary. No comparison. She has an IQ above room temp. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realitycheck Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 Just now, Owly said: No comparison. She has an IQ above room temp. Sorry. Unlike Chumpkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realitycheck Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 8 hours ago, BubberMiley said: So, in other words, you can't answer my question and searched desperately for a "whatabout" that doesn't really work, in the hopes that it would deflect attention from the fact you can't answer my question. SOP for these chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realitycheck Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 A good read: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/opinions-trump-s-tax-return-scam-has-taken-yet-another-turn/ar-BBVJDnd?ocid=ob-fb-enca-651&fbclid=IwAR3ELvUvlzIhtC1WloIHBNdxW4QMRV1_zd8Bjpx-q1wc7HJaVsmqppTEdAY Probably pretty accurate. Chump will do anything not to reveal he is not as wealthy as he claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Realitycheck said: Well, they are, for the most part, religious. Thus they are well trained to ignore facts in favour of mythology. Most of Hillary's supporters are religious too. /shrugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 According to early election polls it looks like Trump's buddy Netanyahoo has fallen behind. Some of the pundits claim it may have to do with his cozying up to Trump. I hope the trend carries on, I never liked Benjamin anyway, and he has some upcoming criminal proceedings to keep him busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Owly said: According to early election polls it looks like Trump's buddy Netanyahoo has fallen behind. Some of the pundits claim it may have to do with his cozying up to Trump. I hope the trend carries on, I never liked Benjamin anyway, and he has some upcoming criminal proceedings to keep him busy. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug. As usual jumping the gun and assuming that politicians you don't like are doomed, sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Wishful thinking is a helluva drug. As usual jumping the gun and assuming that politicians you don't like are doomed, sad. What in your mind is "sad" about wishful thinking. Oh yeah, you are a fan of the far right. I forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Owly said: What in your mind is "sad" about wishful thinking. Oh yeah, you are a fan of the far right. I forgot. Wishful thinking can lead to faulty analysis, because you see what you want to see, instead of what actually is. Confirmation bias for the fail. Calling you out on your wishful thinking doesn't make me a fan of the far-right, nor does defending Trump from the dumbest attacks on him. Obvious demonizing strawman is obvious. Edited April 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Wishful thinking can lead to faulty analysis, because you see what you want to see, instead of what actually is. Confirmation bias for the fail. Calling you out on your wishful thinking doesn't make me a fan of the far-right, nor does defending Trump from the dumbest attacks on him. Obvious demonizing strawman is obvious. I'm (sort of) interested to hear what your "dumbest attacks" on Trump amount to. He certainly keeps providing fodder for valid attacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Owly said: He certainly keeps providing fodder for valid attacks. Indeed, but you pick your battles with Trump very poorly, despite all the good material available to attack him for legit reasons, that's the funny part. Edited April 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Indeed, but you pick your battles with Trump very poorly, despite all the good material available to attack him for legit reasons, that's the funny part. Which reasons do you deem not legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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