Big Guy Posted April 10, 2016 Report Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) The closer we come to these elections, the more interesting they appear to be. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election There are quite a few possible outcomes: Expected: Hillary is Democratic Candidate, Trump is Republican Candidate - Hillary wins easily. There are a couple nightmare scenarios: 1. Sanders is a registered Independent. He is not a Democrat. Hillary comes into the convention and wins only because she gets 98% of the super delegates. These delegates (about 700 including uncommitted) will probably make the difference. These are DEMOCRATIC mayors, governors, congressman, senators and elected members of the Democratic National Committee. These are Democrats true and blue and will not vote for an Independent over a Democrat. Sanders gets pi$$ed and decides to run as an Independent. The Republicans nominate Trump. Hillary and Bernie split the vote and the Donald is President of the USA as the Republican House of Representatives (run by Tea Party) makes the decision. 2. Bernie is pi$$ed and runs as an Independent, Hillary runs as the Democrat. Trump gets elbowed out during the Convention and decides to run as an Independent, the Republicans nominate (Cruz or somebody like Kasich) their man. Four people running for president. Trump gets his loyal supporters voting for him. Results Hillary 27%, Bernie 27%, Kasich 17% and Trump 29% (I know it is the Electoral College votes that count) . Trump gets 29% through his crazies and a few other weirdos or enough to have the plurality. The House of Representatives (run by Tea Party) make the selection - The Donald is the next President of the USA. Edited April 10, 2016 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Guest Posted April 10, 2016 Report Posted April 10, 2016 It's beginning to look like Trump might not be the GOP candidate after all. I'm afraid boring might win out in the end. Oh well. Maybe the World Series will go to seven games. Quote
Big Guy Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Posted April 10, 2016 Just got in my time machine, went forward one year and got the bad news. Brought back a newspaper to share with others in this time period. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2797782/Ideas-Trump-front-page.pdf Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Guest Posted April 10, 2016 Report Posted April 10, 2016 Just got in my time machine, went forward one year and got the bad news. Brought back a newspaper to share with others in this time period. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2797782/Ideas-Trump-front-page.pdf The sports pages would have been handy... Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 Hillary will be the next POTUS. Who will be the VP? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 Hillary has the majority of women obviously and blacks - although that's slipping, but Bernie has the younger voters. Hillary has to be terrified that the young socialists, which there are many, simply reject the idea of voting and don't bother coming out. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
kimmy Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 Hillary has the majority of women obviously and blacks - although that's slipping, but Bernie has the younger voters. Hillary has to be terrified that the young socialists, which there are many, simply reject the idea of voting and don't bother coming out. The Republicans face a similar dilemma if a brokered convention makes someone other than Trump their nominee. I think both parties face a potential rift, but on the Republican side there's the potential for outright revolt. For the Democrats, I expect that the phrases "President Trump" or "President Cruz" would get younger voters out to the polls to support Hillary. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Guest Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Hillary will be the next POTUS. Who will be the VP? It would be incredible if she was to pick Bernie as the veep, though there is very little chance of that. Edited April 21, 2016 by Guest Quote
Big Guy Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Posted April 21, 2016 Bernie is elected president, Hillary gets VP. Bernie dies of old age in first year of term, Hillary now president. Everybody happy. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
?Impact Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 Bernie dies of old age in first year of term, Sanders will be 75 when the new President is sworn in. Queen Elizabeth just celebrated her 90th birthday today. Do you know something about Sanders' health that the rest of us don't? I believe Ronald Raegan was the oldest serving President, aged 69-77 (actually just shy of 78 by about a week when he retired) during his two terms. Quote
Big Guy Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Posted April 21, 2016 Sanders will be 75 when the new President is sworn in. Queen Elizabeth just celebrated her 90th birthday today. Do you know something about Sanders' health that the rest of us don't? I believe Ronald Raegan was the oldest serving President, aged 69-77 (actually just shy of 78 by about a week when he retired) during his two terms. If Bernie wanted to take out life insurance to-day, how much do you think he would be paying in premiums? Assuming Bernie was born in 1940: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005148.html I would be charging him about 10% of his coverage monthly. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
The_Squid Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 Where has Bernie Sanders ever said he would run as an independent? Are you just making this up? Quote
August1991 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) The Republicans face a similar dilemma if a brokered convention makes someone other than Trump their nominee. I think both parties face a potential rift, but on the Republican side there's the potential for outright revolt. For the Democrats, I expect that the phrases "President Trump" or "President Cruz" would get younger voters out to the polls to support Hillary. -k Brokered convention? Every four years, I have been hearing of this since, uh, 1952. (I'm old; born in 1694). To me, 2016 is no different. ==== The NYT has a great website where you can do different primary numbers. Whatever the scenario, Trump crosses over in California. I think Rodham-Clinton before in May. Edited April 23, 2016 by August1991 Quote
August1991 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Brokered conventions aside, it appears that it will be Rodham-Clinton vs Trump in the Fall and all current polls, market-prediction sites, point to a Democrat win. The next US president will be Hillary Clinton. ======= I have to say that I feel bad for the future of civilization, for my children's children. A random mob, who pay no taxes, now decide our ruler. Such a political system is surely not sustainable. [/sarcasm - with a touch of irony] Edited April 23, 2016 by August1991 Quote
BC_chick Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 Hillary will be the next POTUS. Who will be the VP? I think Hillary should thank the stars she has to face Cruz or Trump on the Republican side. I don't think she'd have any chance of becoming POTUS if she were against Romeny or McCain. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
BC_chick Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) I have to say that I feel bad for the future of civilization, for my children's children. A random mob, who pay no taxes, now decide our ruler. Such a political system is surely not sustainable. [/sarcasm - with a touch of irony] Funny I worry about my kid's future too but for very different reasons. I worry about the 'random mob' who cares more about money than the earth. Edited April 23, 2016 by BC_chick Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Shady Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 I think the next president will be Donald Trump. I think his populist/protectionist/semi-isolationist message will resonate more with voters than Hillary Clinton's message of the opposite. Quote
The_Squid Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 I think the next president will be Donald Trump. I think his populist/protectionist/semi-isolationist message will resonate more with voters than Hillary Clinton's message of the opposite. Even Sanders will beat Trump. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/07/even-bernie-sanders-can-beat-donald-trump-according-to-math/ Quote
Big Guy Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Posted April 24, 2016 I think the next president will be Donald Trump. I think his populist/protectionist/semi-isolationist message will resonate more with voters than Hillary Clinton's message of the opposite. You have a few Muslims agreeing with you: Small numbers of Muslims find comfort, not concern, in Trump's strong stance on immigrants. They see it as proof that the Republican presidential front-runner could better contain extremists than other candidates. "People have the wrong idea, even Arabs and Muslims," said Tamer, 40, who works in real estate and construction and lives in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn, which is known for its large Arab and Muslim population. "I like the fact that he's a little nuts. He's got the good heart, he cares about America." http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_MUSLIMS_FOR_TRUMP_MIOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-04-24-10-03-10 See, you are on the same side as the Muslims! Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
August1991 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Funny I worry about my kid's future too but for very different reasons. I worry about the 'random mob' who cares more about money than the earth.There are some 7 billion people on this earth, about 300 million in America and 30 million in Canada. BC_chick, at a global level, you are among the 1%. You're very, very rich. ====== But here's the key question: Will taking from you in fact make anyone else in the world better? Edited April 25, 2016 by August1991 Quote
blueblood Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 I think the next president will be Donald Trump. I think his populist/protectionist/semi-isolationist message will resonate more with voters than Hillary Clinton's message of the opposite. Except the donald will have to deal with a hostile congress and senate. Expect 4-8 more years of the same. People are getting worked up for nothing. The real "change" is if marco rubio would have won the primary and had a congress with senate to work with and actually pass laws... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) ...But here's the key question: Will taking from you in fact make anyone else in the world better? Not so important...it's about some of those 1% feeling better about themselves. The next POTUS can't really help that, no matter who it may be. Edited April 25, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Topaz Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 First of all, Trump has to live to get to the White House and I'm being told by a friend whose into the US elections, that the Clintons and the Republicans and another Billionaire are going to trying to stop Trump, one way or the other. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Posted April 27, 2016 Cruz and Kaisich teaming up is/was a bad idea. These guys heads are spinning because they just don't know the game that they're playing. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
betsy Posted April 27, 2016 Report Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Getting 60% of the votes from 2 opponents (Cruz and Kasich) - is extraordinary! Hillary got it smooth-sailing with just Sanders and the Dems establishment behind her....... ........ whereas Trump had to fight not only his opponents and the media....but also the Republican establishment, every step of the way, from day 1. WHO'S WINNING? Edited April 27, 2016 by Charles Anthony deleted re-copied [Opening Post] Quote
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