Donald vs Hillary

bush_cheney2004 · October 2, 2016

Thanks but Canada only matters in a teeny tiny way like a lot of other countries, as your strained examples illustrate.

One I will say in our defence. How any American can call our election process boring is a mystery given the years you take to choose a leader. Your elections never end down there.

But by your own admission, Canadians pay lots of attention to the American election, just as it watches so many things 'south of the border'. Trump's name rides high above Canada's major cities, and in the collective Canadian consciousness.

SpankyMcFarland · October 2, 2016

Trump is not my candidate, but he is constitutionally qualified to be U.S. president. Millions of American voters, Republican and otherwise, have exercised their right to vote for Trump. The process will be completed through to the general election.

Europe and Canada have nothing more to brag about about when it comes to political candidates and elected leaders.

OK take the example of UK PMs. Which one of these people was as poorly informed as Trump on what their job entailed? Which one of them had his swarm of scandals BEFORE taking office?

SpankyMcFarland · October 2, 2016

But by your own admission, Canadians pay lots of attention to the American election, just as it watches so many things 'south of the border'. Trump's name rides high above Canada's major cities, and in the collective Canadian consciousness.

He's on the TV every night with some new car crash revelation. Pretty hard to avoid.

Your process has become ridiculously long.

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bush_cheney2004 · October 2, 2016

Your process has become ridiculously long.

Thank you...that's how we like it. Separates the contenders from the pretenders.

SpankyMcFarland · October 2, 2016

Thank you...that's how we like it. Separates the contenders from the pretenders.

Not necessarily. I'm sure it also deters some excellent candidates.

bush_cheney2004 · October 2, 2016

OK take the example of UK PMs. Which one of these people was as poorly informed as Trump on what their job entailed? Which one of them had his swarm of scandals BEFORE taking office?

Lots of "bad choices" in the UK and Europe....they could teach Trump a thing or two about scandals before and after taking office.

Example from Italy: Silvio Berlusconi

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bush_cheney2004 · October 2, 2016

Not necessarily. I'm sure it also deters some excellent candidates.

That's how it works...you really have to want it badly. Ex Canadian blowhard Ted Cruz did not have the 'right stuff'.

eyeball · October 2, 2016

Bush threw some chips in the pot, but you can go back to Carter and Clinton and get a better sense of why the world is where it is now. And, nobody has served to destabilize the middle east as much as the Obama/Clinton duo.

Bottom line though is that the west was mostly responsible.

I doubt the drones and cruise missiles we've plastered the ME with not to mention their victims have made any of the silly distinctions you guys place such great weight on.

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Cum Laude · October 2, 2016

There is no comparison. Trump is an unstable, vulgar goon who would disgrace the office. That's why so many Republicans have repudiated him.

So you prefer an empty airhead? Canadians, eh.

WestCoastRunner · October 2, 2016

So you prefer an empty airhead? Canadians, eh.

A typical sexist comment. Americans eh.

SpankyMcFarland · October 2, 2016

So you prefer an empty airhead? Canadians, eh.

A person of good character, yes, to a lying jackass and serial fraudster.

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SpankyMcFarland · October 2, 2016

Lot's of "bad choices" in the UK and Europe....they could teach Trump a thing or two about scandals before and after taking office.

Example from Italy: Silvio Berlusconi

No example from Britain? Start with Walpole and work forward.

Berlusconi is widely despised in Italy as a corrupter of the system and an utterly despicable person. There are people as awful as Trump in other countries but that seems a rather poor reason to vote for him.

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SpankyMcFarland · October 2, 2016

That's how it works...you really have to want it badly. Ex Canadian blowhard Ted Cruz did not have the 'right stuff'.

Do you really think Cruz was less qualified to be President than Trump?

WestCoastRunner · October 2, 2016

Barbara Bush attended a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in Paris. Gotta love it.

https://www.google.ca/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/91435644/

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Cum Laude · October 2, 2016

A typical sexist comment. Americans eh.

Quick, Canadian!! Run for your safe space!!!! :lol:

cybercoma · October 2, 2016

It's a politically correct way of saying "rape" or "attempted rape", but maybe we should ask Juanita Broadrick?

No it isn't. Rape in our criminal code is sexual assault. Are assault and harassment even remotely similar terms to you?

bush_cheney2004 · October 2, 2016

Do you really think Cruz was less qualified to be President than Trump?

Yes...and so did American voters.

Hal 9000 · October 3, 2016

Barbara Bush attended a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in Paris. Gotta love it.

https://www.google.ca/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/91435644/

So, what's your take on Juanita Broadrick's accusations?

Argus · October 3, 2016

Maybe in backward Canada, but the term has been in common use since the late 1970's, well before Bill Clinton harassed and assaulted women while in office.

The kinds of things that are called sexual harassment were commonplace in previous years and accepted as part of life. Nobody liked the more physical aspects, but that too was not exactly unknown, and many previous presidents engaged in both. Trump clearly sexually harasses almost every woman around him, at least verbally. And he has no room in his company or his life for woman who aren't beautiful and obedient.

Argus · October 3, 2016

Anyone else find it weird watching the repeated reports and interviews with Trump and his collection of loonies threatening to or talking about Bill Clinton's adultery? I mean, we have fairly notorious adulterers like like Trump and Giuliani making dark accusations about how the adultery of Clinton's partner makes her unfit for office! More to the point, and in particularly on television reports, I virtually never see any of these reports or even interviewers mentioning Trump's adultery even as he or Giuliani or some other Trumpite talks about Clinton's past.

Argus · October 3, 2016

The San Diego Union-Tribune endorses a Democrat for president for the first time in its 148 year history.

"Terrible leaders can knock nations off course. Venezuela is falling apart because of the obstinance and delusions of Hugo Chávez and his successor. Argentina is finally coming out of the chaos created by Cristina Kirchner and several of her predecessors.

"Trump could be our Chávez, our Kirchner. We cannot take that risk."

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/editorials/sd-hillary-clinton-endorsement-for-president-20160929-story.html

BC_chick · October 3, 2016

Anyone else find it weird watching the repeated reports and interviews with Trump and his collection of loonies threatening to or talking about Bill Clinton's adultery? I mean, we have fairly notorious adulterers like like Trump and Giuliani making dark accusations about how the adultery of Clinton's partner makes her unfit for office! More to the point, and in particularly on television reports, I virtually never see any of these reports or even interviewers mentioning Trump's adultery even as he or Giuliani or some other Trumpite talks about Clinton's past.

I know lots of people lose their marbles whenever anyone says something bad about HRC (and given the alternative I can see why), but there are some differences between Trump's infidelities and Bill Clinton's.

First, Trump has overlapped his relationships, but he's nowhere near Bill Clinton's level of sleaze. Even though he said chauvinistic things while in relationships, we don't have reports of multiple affairs spanning years on end. Clinton's affairs were much more abusive in nature.

Second, although HRC wasn't the one cheating, she went out of her way to discredit the women that Bill cheated with and smear them publically. That's a very difficult act to defend and frankly makes me sick to think of a woman doing that to another woman.

Third, this is the woman who will be the first woman president, the iconic 'role model'. While I think we can all sympathize with a woman who was cheated on, when a woman puts up with a cheating husband for years on end our sympathy diminishes as she looks more and more responsible for her own predicament. To me, only a very unfortunate character would allow someone else to humiliate them to such extremes.

She's still better than Trump in spite of it all, but let's not downplay Bill's infidelities for anything less than what they were.

BubberMiley · October 3, 2016

That's a very difficult act to defend and frankly makes me sick to think of a woman doing that to another woman.

Some women don't like other women who have sex with their husbands though. It's not like they didn't know he was married.

bush_cheney2004 · October 3, 2016

The kinds of things that are called sexual harassment were commonplace in previous years and accepted as part of life.

Not when Bill Clinton was governor and president. Women began fighting back with civil suits and criminal charges. His wife and now presidential candidate Hillary Clinton covered for his sexual harassment and sexual assaults. Lawsuits and settlements followed them wherever Bill's libido roamed.

As a reference point for this issue in American culture, the film 9 to 5 was released in 1980. I'm sure it was screened in Canada as well with great success.

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