Donald vs Hillary

[jacee]

You know, I remember 'the good Ole days' when "mind your manners" was the common rule, people were expected to be polite, and crude and rude behaviour was unacceptable.

What ever happened to manners?

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[bush_cheney2004]

What ever happened to manners?

Manners, etiquette, grammar, and "knowing one's place" are tools of the privileged oppressors. NO JUSTICE...NO MANNERS !!!

[betsy]

Will Assange release more wikileaks that he said would result in Hillary's indictment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB9u9dSQVkc

"Published on Jul 31, 2016

EXPECT MORE MATERIAL ON HILLARY

Wikileaks chief says he has 'quite a lot of material' from Hillary's campaign and will release it in stages for maximum publicity.

- Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has said his group is sitting on material related to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign

- Won't say whether Russia was behind the hack

- The group rocked the Democratic National Convention by releasing thousands of internal emails

- Plans to put out material in 'batches'

- The U.S. is investigating a possible hack of the Clinton campaign

- Hackers linked to Russia reportedly penetrated an account used by the Clinton campaign

- FBI is investigating hacking activity"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jOgV3FQ6Is

Edited August 5, 2016 by betsy

[jacee]

Manners, etiquette, grammar, and "knowing one's place" are tools of the privileged oppressors. NO JUSTICE...NO MANNERS !!!

Lol

Trump voters don't realize he is a "privileged oppressor" and while he has no manners, he still expects them to 'know their place'.

Edited August 5, 2016 by jacee

[segnosaur]

She also has a tax free charity called the Clinton Family Foundation which is suppose to be worth over 2 billion dollars. Apparently 85% of the money received goes towards spending on hotels, meals, airfare, parties and administration costs for the Clinton's and friends to travel around the world with. The rest 15% goes to charity.

The Clinton foundation has indeed raised roughly $2 billion since it was started. But that does not mean that it is worth $2 billion, as much (most) of that money has already been spent on charitable causes. (Those causes include things like helping stop Malaria in the 3rd world, efforts to curb obesity in the U.S., providing free consulting services to those in financial need, and disaster relief following hurricane Katrina, the Indian ocean tsunami, and the Haiti earthquake, just to name a few.)

Some other little "facts" about the charity....

- It has been given a rating of "A" by the American Institute of Philanthropy

- Its actual operating overhead is only 12%, and its fundraising costs are only 2%. This makes it one of the most efficient charities around

- It is actually relatively bi-partisan, with involvement with members of the Bush administration, and past contributions by people like Cris Ruddy (who was a critic of Clinton and helped create the right-wing news site 'NewsMax')

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478

Now, it is true that many of the donors have been... questionable (e.g. countries with questionable human rights records, etc.) But their money is put to good use, and its more a case of such donors wanting to give the appearance of being "good guys" rather than them trying to curry favor. (Given a choice of accepting donations from countries like Qatar and seeing people die from lack of funds, many will see accepting money for humanitarian purposes to be the preferred option.)

At least Trump has said that he will take care of the needy...

Well, let's take a look at Trump's record over charities associated with Veterans, shall we?

From: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-veterans-controversy-goes-bad-worse

Donald Trump ...boasted that he’d raised $6 million for vets, and he’d contributed $1 million out of his own pocket.

...

...the Washington Post started asking what happened to the money. The newspaper found that Trump did not raise $6 million as he’d claimed, and making matters worse, though his campaign said Trump had already made a $1 million contribution, that turned out not to be true, either.

Does that sound like someone who will "take care of the needy"?

[taxme]

The Clinton foundation has indeed raised roughly $2 billion since it was started. But that does not mean that it is worth $2 billion, as much (most) of that money has already been spent on charitable causes. (Those causes include things like helping stop Malaria in the 3rd world, efforts to curb obesity in the U.S., providing free consulting services to those in financial need, and disaster relief following hurricane Katrina, the Indian ocean tsunami, and the Haiti earthquake, just to name a few.)

Some other little "facts" about the charity....

- It has been given a rating of "A" by the American Institute of Philanthropy

- Its actual operating overhead is only 12%, and its fundraising costs are only 2%. This makes it one of the most efficient charities around

- It is actually relatively bi-partisan, with involvement with members of the Bush administration, and past contributions by people like Cris Ruddy (who was a critic of Clinton and helped create the right-wing news site 'NewsMax')

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478

Now, it is true that many of the donors have been... questionable (e.g. countries with questionable human rights records, etc.) But their money is put to good use, and its more a case of such donors wanting to give the appearance of being "good guys" rather than them trying to curry favor. (Given a choice of accepting donations from countries like Qatar and seeing people die from lack of funds, many will see accepting money for humanitarian purposes to be the preferred option.)

Well, let's take a look at Trump's record over charities associated with Veterans, shall we?

From: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-veterans-controversy-goes-bad-worse

Donald Trump ...boasted that he’d raised $6 million for vets, and he’d contributed $1 million out of his own pocket.

...

...the Washington Post started asking what happened to the money. The newspaper found that Trump did not raise $6 million as he’d claimed, and making matters worse, though his campaign said Trump had already made a $1 million contribution, that turned out not to be true, either.

Does that sound like someone who will "take care of the needy"?

We can only find out if Trump means what he says, and what he will carry out if he ever does become President. Then we will find out if he is all talk, or all action. If he does nothing as to what he says he would do, then I think that another American revolution will surely begin. I think that the American people will have had enough of their leaders, and their lying promises, and I believe that a bigger Boston Tea Party will happen.

As far as Hillary goes, I would not trust her as far as I could throw her. Donald Trump has already shown to us all some of her nasty faults which the lame duck corporate media likes to avoid talking about. She represents the old guard that wants to keep the elite globalist banksters in power, you know, the ones who gave the world 2008. America will always be looking for another war to start with her in control of the military.

Just my opinion, of course.

[taxme]

Former CIA director (2010-13) Michael Morell will be voting for Clinton and refers to Trump as a security threat.

I am neither a registered Democrat nor a registered Republican. In my 40 years of voting, I have pulled the lever for candidates of both parties. As a government official, I have always been silent about my preference for president.

No longer. On Nov. 8, I will vote for Hillary Clinton. Between now and then, I will do everything I can to ensure that she is elected as our 45th president.

Two strongly held beliefs have brought me to this decision. First, Mrs. Clinton is highly qualified to be commander in chief. I trust she will deliver on the most important duty of a president — keeping our nation safe. Second, Donald J. Trump is not only unqualified for the job, but he may well pose a threat to our national security.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/opinion/campaign-stops/i-ran-the-cia-now-im-endorsing-hillary-clinton.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Now just where is Trump suppose to be a security threat, and to whom? Maybe the elite establishment are the ones that feel that their security will be threatened if Trump becomes President. Maybe this Morell guy is just sucking up to Clinton in hopes of getting a nice cushy government job if Clinton becomes President. It's sad to see people like him wanting to keep the old McCain guard and system alive and kicking when maybe their is a man who can change all the old guard and old system and replace it with a new and better system for the we the people and once again make America great again. But hey, we shall see very soon what will happen. Fun times ahead.

[segnosaur]

We can only find out if Trump means what he says, and what he will carry out if he ever does become President. Then we will find out if he is all talk, or all action.

Why do you need to wait until Trump becomes president to find out if he is all talk? We already have evidence... We have:

- The case mentioned above, where he claimed to have raised millions for Veterans, but didn't

- In the 1980s he promised to give profits from one of his books to medical charities but did not. (He ended up giving more money to his kid's ballet school.)

In other words, we already have a pretty good idea how Trump will handle "charity". Lots of promises, but no action. (In fact, he may actually make money from charities, since charity events are sometimes held at his hotels. Which he charges them for.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-promised-millions-to-charity-we-found-less-than-10000-over-7-years/2016/06/28/cbab5d1a-37dd-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html

As far as Hillary goes, I would not trust her as far as I could throw her. Donald Trump has already shown to us all some of her nasty faults which the lame duck corporate media likes to avoid talking about. She represents the old guard that wants to keep the elite globalist banksters in power, you know, the ones who gave the world 2008.

I find it ironic that you would accuse Hillary of wanting to keep "banksters in power", when Trump has appointed Steve Mnuchin as one of his economic advisors. Mnuchin was one of the executives at Goldman Sachs at the time of the melt down (i.e. he was one of the contributors to the problem)

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/05/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-advisers/

On the other hand, Hillary's policies include:

- Vetoing any bills repealing banking regulations put in place following the 2008 collapse

- Charging banks fees if they engage in risky behavior

Sounds like someone who's a little more willing to challenge the banks than your standard republican.

America will always be looking for another war to start with her in control of the military.

And your proof of that is what exactly?

Keep in mind that Trump:

- Has Pence as his vice presidential Candidate, who voted forthe Iraq war

- Actually supported the Iraq war himself in September 2002 (before the invasion), as well as the bombing campaign in Libya

- Questioned why we don't use nuclear weapons.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/flip-flop-trump-admits-suppoted-libya-intervention-article-1.2662238

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html

[Hal 9000]

Why don't you ask the people of Haiti just what they think of Hillary and her "philanthropy"?

[taxme]

Why do you need to wait until Trump becomes president to find out if he is all talk? We already have evidence... We have:

- The case mentioned above, where he claimed to have raised millions for Veterans, but didn't

- In the 1980s he promised to give profits from one of his books to medical charities but did not. (He ended up giving more money to his kid's ballet school.)

In other words, we already have a pretty good idea how Trump will handle "charity". Lots of promises, but no action. (In fact, he may actually make money from charities, since charity events are sometimes held at his hotels. Which he charges them for.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-promised-millions-to-charity-we-found-less-than-10000-over-7-years/2016/06/28/cbab5d1a-37dd-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html

I find it ironic that you would accuse Hillary of wanting to keep "banksters in power", when Trump has appointed Steve Mnuchin as one of his economic advisors. Mnuchin was one of the executives at Goldman Sachs at the time of the melt down (i.e. he was one of the contributors to the problem)

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/05/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-advisers/

On the other hand, Hillary's policies include:

- Vetoing any bills repealing banking regulations put in place following the 2008 collapse

- Charging banks fees if they engage in risky behavior

Sounds like someone who's a little more willing to challenge the banks than your standard republican.

And your proof of that is what exactly?

Keep in mind that Trump:

- Has Pence as his vice presidential Candidate, who voted forthe Iraq war

- Actually supported the Iraq war himself in September 2002 (before the invasion), as well as the bombing campaign in Libya

- Questioned why we don't use nuclear weapons.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/flip-flop-trump-admits-suppoted-libya-intervention-article-1.2662238

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html

(1)Well, the veterans don't feel so about Trump. The Veterans association have said that they will support and vote for Trump. He must be doing something right with or for them. And how do you really know that he did not give any money from one of his books to charities? Have you spoken to him about that? Did you get the word from the bird? Hillary makes money from her charities. So, what's your point? And Hillary spends lots of her charity money on many other expenses that has nothing to do with charity. Who says some of that money does not go into her pocket? So, you know for a fact and are saying that Trump used charity money for his kids ballet classes? Hey, that is quite the accusation. Better prove that one.

(2)So, Trump hired someone from Goldman Sachs, so what? Maybe Trump wants and saw in Mnuchin a person who will help Trump with the running of Trumps many businesses that he is involved with. Trump must have considered him the man for his jobs. Maybe this guy had enough of working for the banksters, and wanted out. Who knows. Only Trump and Mnuchin know why.

(3)From my understanding from what I have read on some alternative media websites is that Hillary is getting plenty of money from Goldman Sachs to help her run for President. But who knows what will happen if she does become President. Maybe she will help the banksters start another 2008 down the road. She will be in debt to them for helping her, and must pay up sometime in the future. Hey, with politics one never knows.

(4)I am a little suspicious of Pence myself. I don't know much about him. I would have preferred for Trump to have appointed Ben Carson or Pat Buchanon as one of his Vice-Presidents as both men appear to be very honest, intelligent and knowledgeable people about politics. They are not establishment sucks. What if Trump gets knocked off and Pence becomes President? Will he carry on Trumps goals or will he back off and discontinue them, and go on the side with the elite as many think that he could do that, and put their policies back in place? Who knows.

[bush_cheney2004]

..... What if Trump gets knocked off and Pence becomes President? Will he carry on Trumps goals or will he back off and discontinue them, and go on the side with the elite as many think that he could do that, and put their policies back in place? Who knows.

I don't think it matters much....U.S. domestic and foreign policies will continue pretty much as before. Remember "Hope and Change" Obama ?

Life will go on in Canada just as before no matter who is elected president of the United States.

[jacee]

I don't think it matters much....U.S. domestic and foreign policies will continue pretty much as before. Remember "Hope and Change" Obama ?

Life will go on in Canada just as before no matter who is elected president of the United States.

You are absolutely right.

And it's true of Canada too.

Politicians/governments do not run anything.

Corporatocracies do.

Money talks.

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[bush_cheney2004]

Political campaign merchandise is very hot right now with Trump spurring business opportunities. Some of the most funny/vile made it to media broadcasts during and after the party conventions. One of the most popular is the very sexist "Hillary Sucks But Not Like Monica" t-shirts and other "collectibles".

http://www.americanews.com/story/society/2016/05/03/trump-fans-under-fire-sexist-rally-merchandise

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/18/1516852/--Hillary-sucks-but-not-like-Monica-creator-is-voting-Democrat-Trying-to-provide-for-family

[taxme]

Why do you need to wait until Trump becomes president to find out if he is all talk? We already have evidence... We have:

- The case mentioned above, where he claimed to have raised millions for Veterans, but didn't

- In the 1980s he promised to give profits from one of his books to medical charities but did not. (He ended up giving more money to his kid's ballet school.)

In other words, we already have a pretty good idea how Trump will handle "charity". Lots of promises, but no action. (In fact, he may actually make money from charities, since charity events are sometimes held at his hotels. Which he charges them for.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-promised-millions-to-charity-we-found-less-than-10000-over-7-years/2016/06/28/cbab5d1a-37dd-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html

I find it ironic that you would accuse Hillary of wanting to keep "banksters in power", when Trump has appointed Steve Mnuchin as one of his economic advisors. Mnuchin was one of the executives at Goldman Sachs at the time of the melt down (i.e. he was one of the contributors to the problem)

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/05/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-advisers/

On the other hand, Hillary's policies include:

- Vetoing any bills repealing banking regulations put in place following the 2008 collapse

- Charging banks fees if they engage in risky behavior

Sounds like someone who's a little more willing to challenge the banks than your standard republican.

And your proof of that is what exactly?

Keep in mind that Trump:

- Has Pence as his vice presidential Candidate, who voted forthe Iraq war

- Actually supported the Iraq war himself in September 2002 (before the invasion), as well as the bombing campaign in Libya

- Questioned why we don't use nuclear weapons.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/flip-flop-trump-admits-suppoted-libya-intervention-article-1.2662238

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html

So root for lying and corrupt Hillary then. Of course all those stories we have heard about lying corrupt Hillary are not suppose to be true, eh? Trump just said those words for fun, uhmm? We all have heard about and know Hillary's record in government, and a lot of it is all not so great. It is obvious that you like Hillary and despise Trump and that is your right. But don't come on here and try to point out faults all the time about Trump when your little darling Hillary has just has many faults, if not more, in her closet. Neither one may be perfect but how can Trump becoming President can make things any worse? I don't think that Hillary will make America great again, maybe worse. She is a bankster Wall Street girl and that should say it all.

[-TSS-]

The ideal outcome: Hillary wins but is forced to resign before even taking office and the running-mate becomes president.

[kimmy]

how can Trump becoming President can make things any worse?

The guy was talking about breaking out the nuclear weapons last week. Clearly things could get a lot worse, and Trump is just the guy to make it happen.

Clinton now has a significant lead in the polls and the key battleground states are now all leaning her way. If Trump can't turn this trainwreck around in a hurry, he's in for a 'UUUUUGE defeat. He's already making up excuses, claiming that the Democrats are going to rig the election. Sean Hannity, who is I think the only mainstream media guy on Trump's bandwagon, is already blaming Paul Ryan and John McCain for the inevitable Trump defeat. A Politico.com survey of Republican insiders revealed that the mood at Elephant Team HQ is nearly suicidal, that they're worried that Trump's unpopularity is not only going to ruin their campaign for the White House but also cost down-ticket races in the Senate and Congress, and that insiders are researching whether there's anything they can do to replace Trump or what the process would be for choosing a replacement in the fortuitous event that Trump bails from the campaign.

And while the Elephant Team booster club here at the MLW is going to be crying "media bias!" as the explanation for the Republicans' troubles, the truth is that they've made a historically bad choice of candidates.

-k

[bush_cheney2004]

...And while the Elephant Team booster club here at the MLW is going to be crying "media bias!" as the explanation for the Republicans' troubles, the truth is that they've made a historically bad choice of candidates.

Do you mean like historically bad candidate choices such as Mike Dukakis, Al Gore, and John Kerry ?

Edited August 7, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[kimmy]

Do you mean like historically bad candidate choices such as Mike Dukakis, Al Gore, and John Kerry ?

I was thinking McGovern, but Dukakis might be a better comparison. I believe Gore came within a few electoral votes of winning, which I expect is a pipe-dream for Trump.

-k

[bush_cheney2004]

I was thinking McGovern, but Dukakis might be a better comparison. I believe Gore came within a few electoral votes of winning, which I expect is a pipe-dream for Trump.

Gore didn't even win his home state....maybe like Trump. McGovern and Humphrey were also defeated badly, so there is no shortage of "historically bad candidates" on the Democrat side as well. It is just normal, American presidential politics.

[taxme]

The guy was talking about breaking out the nuclear weapons last week. Clearly things could get a lot worse, and Trump is just the guy to make it happen.

Clinton now has a significant lead in the polls and the key battleground states are now all leaning her way. If Trump can't turn this trainwreck around in a hurry, he's in for a 'UUUUUGE defeat. He's already making up excuses, claiming that the Democrats are going to rig the election. Sean Hannity, who is I think the only mainstream media guy on Trump's bandwagon, is already blaming Paul Ryan and John McCain for the inevitable Trump defeat. A Politico.com survey of Republican insiders revealed that the mood at Elephant Team HQ is nearly suicidal, that they're worried that Trump's unpopularity is not only going to ruin their campaign for the White House but also cost down-ticket races in the Senate and Congress, and that insiders are researching whether there's anything they can do to replace Trump or what the process would be for choosing a replacement in the fortuitous event that Trump bails from the campaign.

And while the Elephant Team booster club here at the MLW is going to be crying "media bias!" as the explanation for the Republicans' troubles, the truth is that they've made a historically bad choice of candidates.

-k

Hillary wants war with Russia. That would probably bring the nuclear weapons out if she becomes President and gets her war going with Putin. You need to stop taking things out of context and stop listening to the lying liberal Democrat we hate Trump media. They are a bunch of losers.

Trump was at a meeting in Texas speaking to a crowd of supporters. A woman in the audience was holding a baby who was crying it's head off. So, Trump asked her politely if she could please leave the arena so the rest of the people can hear Trump speak. Trump did not have her removed or have her booted out. She left willing, and so she should. A reporter later came up to Trump and asked him why he had her thrown out. Trump did not throw the woman and baby out. But here is a prime example of how the lying liberal Democratic we hate Trump has to go media are. They always try to make Trump out to be a meany and a bad man. If Trump sneezes, the rotten media will blame Trump for some people getting the flu from him.

I would not trust any poll or the majority of the main scream American media out there because they like to tell lies. Trump is doing alright despite what the lying media wants the American people to believe. But what is so sad though is that here the Republicans have a shot at the White House, but because some Republicans don't like Trump, and they would rather throw their weight behind Hillary just so Trump does not win. So stupid indeed. The people made the choice as to whom they want for Presidential leader. The Republican picked up lot's of new members because of Trump. But most of the pro-establishment traitor insiders of the Republican Party that do not want Trump as President are saying to we the people supporters that they don't care what we the people want, and they can go to hell. But I think that I understand as to what is going on here? The establishment will be in big trouble if Trump becomes President. Something that they cannot accept and will do whatever they can to make sure that Trump does not become President. The elephant club booster team have their work cut out if they have to fight against their own team members.

[eyeball]

A Politico.com survey of Republican insiders revealed that the mood at Elephant Team HQ is nearly suicidal, that they're worried that Trump's unpopularity is not only going to ruin their campaign for the White House but also cost down-ticket races in the Senate and Congress, and that insiders are researching whether there's anything they can do to replace Trump or what the process would be for choosing a replacement in the fortuitous event that Trump bails from the campaign.

-k

I wonder how often the "a" word comes up.... just in case he doesn't bail? Edited August 8, 2016 by eyeball

[kimmy]

I would not trust any poll or the majority of the main scream American media out there because they like to tell lies. Trump is doing alright despite what the lying media wants the American people to believe.

Yeah, that was what Romney supporters and the right-wing media outlets like Breitbart said in 2012. They were convinced, right up to the end, that Romney was going to win, despite all the polls that said he was losing. And they're doing the same this year. They've invented their own little alternate reality, where their guy is sane, and is telling the truth, and "doing alright".

-k

[Guest]

Breitbart has already been caught falsifying turnout numbers and even photos for Trump events. They actually used photos of the Cleveland Cavs victory celebration, claiming it was a Trump rally. Breitbart is willfully creating this false reality for their readers, who ironically don't trust mainstream media.

One crowd shot is as good as any right?

Record turnout for Trump speech, polls show he leads in every state and teens are now donning the Trump Doo. When asked about his immense popularity Trump replied "I'm yuuuge, believe me! A lot of people are saying I'm bigger than Jesus, OK? Those aren't my words, people everywhere are just saying how yuuuge I am, believe me. I mean really, yuuuge and great. I am probably the yuuugest and greatest, OK?"

Edited August 8, 2016 by Guest
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[betsy]

Is this poor scientist another casualty of Hillary's negligence?

Report: Hillary Emails Discussed Nuclear Scientist Executed By Iran For Giving Intelligence To U.S.

Hillary Clinton recklessly discussed, in emails hosted on her private server, an Iranian nuclear scientist who was executed by Iran for treason, Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said Sunday.

"I'm not going to comment on what he may or may not have done for the United States government, but in the emails that were on Hillary Clinton's private server, there were conversations among her senior advisors about this gentleman," he said on "Face the Nation." Cotton was speaking about Shahram Amiri, who gave information to the U.S. about Iran's nuclear program.

The senator said this lapse proves she is not capable of keeping the country safe.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cotton-clinton-discussed-executed-iranian-scientist-on-email/article/2598807

The scientist was initially hailed as a hero in Iran. However, something had changed and he ended up being executed

for treason.

Edited August 8, 2016 by betsy

[Argus]

Is this poor scientist another casualty of Hillary's negligence?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cotton-clinton-discussed-executed-iranian-scientist-on-email/article/2598807

The scientist was initially hailed as a hero in Iran. However, something had changed and he ended up being executed

for treason.

Anyone who thinks the Chinese and Russians don't have free access to pretty much every government computer in the US and Canada has very little idea what is going on in the world. Wouldn't surprise me if the Iranians did too.

Edited August 8, 2016 by Argus