Predict how Canada will look like in 4 years

[Omni]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Such crashes are common in Canada...government projects to consolidate IT services has been a disaster.   I predict that in four years, this will not change much.   Maybe Canadian workers who still have not been paid by Phoenix will finally have things settled....maybe.

Immigration Canada never crashed until the DJ from Cape Breton put up his site to invite Americans to come there if Trump was elected and put a link to the gov. site. The beaches are beautiful down there.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Omni said:

Immigration Canada never crashed until the DJ from Cape Breton put up his site to invite Americans to come there if Trump was elected and put a link to the gov. site. The beaches are beautiful down there.

 

Canadians voting with their feet trumps web site browser sessions by Americans.   Four more years of Canada means more Canadians moving to the USA.   Maybe it will be like the 1990's "brain drain" once Trudeau tries to take more Canadian wages with carbon taxes, higher energy costs, fewer jobs, and expensive refugees.

[Omni]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Canadians voting with their feet trumps web site browser sessions by Americans.   Four more years of Canada means more Canadians moving to the USA.   Maybe it will be like the 1990's "brain drain" once Trudeau tries to take more Canadian wages with carbon taxes, higher energy costs, fewer jobs, and expensive refugees.

I bet you Americans voting with their feet will trump Trump. There is a reason that website is crashing it is a 60% increase of traffic from.....America.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Omni said:

I bet you Americans voting with their feet will trump Trump. There is a reason that website is crashing it is a 60% increase of traffic from.....America.

 

Please provide the numbers for Americans actually moving to Canada because of Trump....I have already done so for the many more Canadians moving to the U.S. ...no web site required.    I predict that Justin Trudeau and Kathleen Wynne will convince even more Canadians to go south in the next four years.

[Omni]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Please provide the numbers for Americans actually moving to Canada because of Trump....I have already done so for the many more Canadians moving to the U.S. ...no web site required.    I predict that Justin Trudeau and Kathleen Wynne will convince even more Canadians to go south in the next four years.

I would remind you that Trump just got elected today. I don't imagine there are a lot of numbers available just yet. I do know one gal from Cal. who is going to UBC on a student visa and she says she is seeking a permanent residency here. I'm sure more will come. 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Omni said:

I would remind you that Trump just got elected today. I don't imagine there are a lot of numbers available just yet. I do know one gal from Cal. who is going to UBC on a student visa and she says she is seeking a permanent residency here. I'm sure more will come. 

 

In other words, you have nothing.   That's what I thought.   More Canadians will continue to move to the United States regardless of Trump.  

It's just what Canadians have always done.   It is what they will do over the next four years as well.

[Omni]

7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

In other words, you have nothing.   That's what I thought.   More Canadians will continue to move to the United States regardless of Trump.  

It's just what Canadians have always done.   It is what they will do over the next four years as well.

Maybe you should try to catch up a little bit.

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/americans-moving-to-canada-increase-canadian-job-searches

[Michael Hardner]

More to this topic than discussing relative immigration levels.  We have established that Canadians will still be obsessed with America for a long time to come.  Let's move on now.

[PIK]

Broke and divided.

[cannuck]

On 12/20/2016 at 8:32 AM, PIK said:

Broke and divided.

Broke because none of the political parties seem to have a clue how to manage money, and the electorate seems totally ignorant of the consequences of their flagrant abuse of the public purse.  Doesn't help that we think the sole purpose of government is to pander to Quebec, aboriginals and any other minority that cares to bitch and whine.

Divided because the East has abused the West throughout confederation, and we have a very different set of values from the East.  This last Liberal government pretty much defines why the Western separatist movement(s) need to get back into business.

[?Impact]

2 hours ago, cannuck said:

Divided because the East has abused the West throughout confederation

Yes, all those eastern dollars that built the west are abuse. 

[Smallc]

9 hours ago, cannuck said:

and we have a very different set of values from the East. 

Speak for yourself.

[Michael Hardner]

9 hours ago, cannuck said:

Divided because the East has abused the West throughout confederation, and we have a very different set of values from the East.  

This is another strike against the idea of 'Canadian values'.  Wasn't that something that the Harper government was trying to get immigrants to pledge to ?  From this comment, we'd have to give them options to pledge to one of three or more sets....

[cybercoma]

In four years we'll be answering calls to prayer and stoning apostates....at least according to DogOnPorch and Argus.

[dialamah]

3 minutes ago, cybercoma said:

In four years we'll be answering calls to prayer and stoning apostates....at least according to DogOnPorch and Argus.

And no abortions, no sex-change controversies, no gender-specific pro-nouns or non-gender specific bathrooms.   What's not to like?     

[taxme]

On 12/21/2016 at 8:22 PM, cannuck said:

Broke because none of the political parties seem to have a clue how to manage money, and the electorate seems totally ignorant of the consequences of their flagrant abuse of the public purse.  Doesn't help that we think the sole purpose of government is to pander to Quebec, aboriginals and any other minority that cares to bitch and whine.

Divided because the East has abused the West throughout confederation, and we have a very different set of values from the East.  This last Liberal government pretty much defines why the Western separatist movement(s) need to get back into business.

It is nice to see someone here who is not afraid to speak political incorrectness and who tells it like it is. Canadian politicians only know how to raise taxes, create more government, bring in more refugees, and continue to shove multiculturalism down the throats of the Canadian taxpayer's, and who also try and get Canadians all concerned about climate change and the environment where there is nothing politicians can do about it except to just keep wasting our tax dollars on their useless talking. If politicians are so serious about the environment, and global warming, than go after China and India two of the biggest polluters on earth. Leave Canadians alone. We aren't causing any damage.

 

[?Impact]

On 12/23/2016 at 10:07 PM, taxme said:

 Leave Canadians alone. We aren't causing any damage.

Bull friggen crap. You are causing twice the damage of the average citizen in China, and 6-7 times that of someone in India.

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Bull friggen crap. You are causing twice the damage of the average citizen in China, and 6-7 times that of someone in India.

Of course, there are a lot more of them, so the overall damage would be a lot more.  Not really fair to assess it in that way, unless one believes climate change is a real threat. 

[taxme]

On 12/27/2016 at 4:49 PM, ?Impact said:

Bull friggen crap. You are causing twice the damage of the average citizen in China, and 6-7 times that of someone in India.

In what way am I personally causing damage to the environment? This I must know? Over to you. 

One just has to look at the rivers around India and the pollution in China to see that Canada is a wuss compared to those countries. And besides don't you think that bringing in hundreds of thousands of new immigrants and refugees every year will only add to the damage of your beloved  environment? Over to you. 

[taxme]

On 12/27/2016 at 5:33 PM, bcsapper said:

Of course, there are a lot more of them, so the overall damage would be a lot more.  Not really fair to assess it in that way, unless one believes climate change is a real threat. 

In what other way can you assess it? 

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, taxme said:

In what other way can you assess it? 

You can assess it per capita if you want. You can assess it in such a way as to allocate the right to develop fairly, across the board, without considering the effects of more recent development compared to that which occurred before AGW was a thing to be considered. If you want to.  

[taxme]

13 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

You can assess it per capita if you want. You can assess it in such a way as to allocate the right to develop fairly, across the board, without considering the effects of more recent development compared to that which occurred before AGW was a thing to be considered. If you want to.  

Ok, you got me baffled. 

[ironstone]

After four years,I'm guessing that Trudeau will have added something like 100-120 billion more in debt.I think our economic growth over this period will be rather slow as well.More businesses will go south to the US where the business climate will be much more enticing.

I have a faint hope that there will be some in Trudeau's inner circle that are pragmatic enough to understand that the Liberal's current path won't turn out well.I refer mainly to carbon taxes/cap and trade policies which Trump won't implement.

I believe that no matter how bad things may be at the end of Trudeau's first term,he will still be very popular and will get another majority.

[?Impact]

4 hours ago, ironstone said:

After four years,I'm guessing that Trudeau will have added something like 100-120 billion more in debt.I think our economic growth over this period will be rather slow as well.More businesses will go south to the US where the business climate will be much more enticing.

Such depressing insight, your prediction that Trudeau will only do half the damage of Harper is indeed sad.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, ?Impact said:

Such depressing insight, your prediction that Trudeau will only do half the damage of Harper is indeed sad.

I marvel at the way liberals claim to superior knowledge and dedication to fact when their memories never seem capable of reaching back more than five years or so.

Yes, it was all Harper spending money for no reason. It's not like there was a big ol recession, and it's not like the Liberals, NDP and BQ didn't try to overthrow the minority tory government because he wasn't putting a huge 'incentive spending' plan in place, and it's not like all three parties didn't constantly demand higher spending because what the conservative government eventually did bring in wasn't enough for them.

Edited December 30, 2016 by Argus