Bryan Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Smallc said: Harper certainly wasn't perfect, and his fiscal record is definitely not perfect. Peefect, no. One of the best we've ever had, definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 7 hours ago, poochy said: Trudeau...Mulroney...Harper Trudeau - dealing with highest interest rates ever, 2 global recessions Mulroney - lower interest rates, no recessions Harper - lowest interest rates, one global recession Summary - Trudeau bad, Mulroney forgiven, Harper wonderful It seems that to a Conservative everything is forgiven because they have some excuse to blame their incompetence on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benz Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think Canada will just look the same, with alot more debts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 hours ago, ?Impact said: Trudeau - dealing with highest interest rates ever, 2 global recessions Mulroney - lower interest rates, no recessions Harper - lowest interest rates, one global recession Summary - Trudeau bad, Mulroney forgiven, Harper wonderful It seems that to a Conservative everything is forgiven because they have some excuse to blame their incompetence on. And for you it's blame the Tories no matter what. I'm willing to give Martin a pass for the transfer slash to slay the deficit. He had to help fix trudeaus mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 But that's the thing - it was just as much Mulroneys mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Smallc said: But that's the thing - it was just as much Mulroneys mess. That trudeau started. Mulroney had to pay high interest which are up a lot of the budget. Mulroney negotiated nafta and started cutting spending to reduce the mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Folks, Avoid thread drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 18 minutes ago, blueblood said: That trudeau started. Mulroney had to pay high interest which are up a lot of the budget. Lower rates than Trudeau Sr had to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, blueblood said: That trudeau started. Mulroney had to pay high interest which are up a lot of the budget. Mulroney negotiated nafta and started cutting spending to reduce the mess While Mulroney did gut some individual programs like the Canadian Forces, the one and only year he reduced his overall spending was by $700 million where Trudeau Sr. actually cut overall spending by $2.4 billion 2 years earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 17 hours ago, Smallc said: And by record time, you mean slower than the actual record time, I'm assuming, since Chretien/Martin eliminated the deficit within 2 years of saying that they would. Suuure they did. As long as you start your timer two years before they ended the deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 9 hours ago, Bryan said: Peefect, no. One of the best we've ever had, definitely. Perhaps try selling that idea to the provincial leaders who had to suffer through Harper's reign of ignoring them. Two meetings in nine years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, Charles Anthony said: Avoid thread drift. I think the topic gives us a lot of latitude. Note the OP simply says title says it all. Predictions are based on lessons learned from history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Smallc said: The Liberals first budget was 1994-1995 fiscal year. The budget was in surplus by the 1996-1997 fiscal year. By your own cite their first budget was 1993-94, and they had a deficit then and in 94-95, 95-96, and 96-97. YOUR OWN CITE says their first balanced budget was in 97-98. Edited January 2, 2017 by Argus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Argus said: Suuure they did. As long as you start your timer two years before they ended the deficit. Except that even the Fraser institute disagrees with you: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/federal-deficits-in-canada-another-view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Argus said: By your own cite their first budget was 1993-94. They didn't take office until the end of 1993: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Chrétien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Folks, This thread is locked due to interminable thread drift. Anybody interested in continuing the discussion laid out in the Opening Post is welcome to start a follow-up thread, call it Predict how Canada will look like in 4 years For Real, This Time! if you want. If the 2nd thread stays on topic, it will be merged with this original thread. Anybody interested in discussing other things is welcome to start a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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