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I wouldn't think that deciding who to spend ones' life with is the venue by which most people would "make a difference".

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I didn't think the choice was about who you to spent your life with but about why you might choose to live a certain way in the first place. It would be reasonable to expect people of like minds might choose to live or associate with one another in the hopes their greater number would make a difference but again this would be after making their own personal choice as individuals.

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I'm non-white, straight and male.

I do just fine and don't have any problems with the police with profiling or anything like that. It's all about how one carries themselves in our society. If you walk around sagging one's jeans and look like a gang banger then of course one's going to attract police attention late at night or in high crime areas.

If however one is non white but carries themselves as a professional or at least as a respectable member of society then no problems can be had.

People are treated the way they look. Right or wrong, that's just how it is.

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I'm non-white, straight and male.

I do just fine and don't have any problems with the police with profiling or anything like that. It's all about how one carries themselves in our society. If you walk around sagging one's jeans and look like a gang banger then of course one's going to attract police attention late at night or in high crime areas.

If however one is non white but carries themselves as a professional or at least as a respectable member of society then no problems can be had.

People are treated the way they look. Right or wrong, that's just how it is.

And all that has what to do with sexual preference...

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Shady's statement made sense to me.

If sexual preference was something that was consciously decided, I don't think many would choose the prejudice and strife and heartache that comes with being gay. Especially in other parts of the world, where people who are gay are arrested or killed or beaten to death by mobs.

If it was a matter of conscious choice, why would anybody choose that?

Makes sense logically, the only problem was with attaching Shady to such reasoning. He has a history of making anti-gay statements. For example he has claimed pedophilia is a homosexual problem.

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Race ? Sexual preference ? Gender ?

What would you choose ?

Nice trick thread to get people on this site to profile themselves.

Anyways.

Shady at other times has called Obama the first affirmative action president of the US.

But as far as I'm concerned, stop wishing your life away and do something with it!

Think your privileged because your a white male? Then you probably won't get off your ass to accomplish much more with your life beyond being only a white male with a few extra self entitlement bonuses.

WWWTT

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I'm an upper middle class, straight, white male living in Canada. At this point the playing field is heavily slanted in my favour so I would order the same again.

The only thing that gives you any advantage is your family wealth. Gender/race is a non-issue once you control for family wealth. Edited by TimG
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Wealth is my greatest advantage, but my skin colour and gender help as well.

Not really. Every advantage you think you have can be attributed to wealth. If you were female or non-white you would have had the exact same opportunities if you had access to the same money.
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Not really. Every advantage you think you have can be attributed to wealth. If you were female or non-white you would have had the exact same opportunities if you had access to the same money.

That's always been my belief too. Skin colour or gender are basically non factors with almost every person I know when it comes to hiring decisions (except on reserve of course). And I live in what many would term a redneck area.

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Makes sense logically, the only problem was with attaching Shady to such reasoning. He has a history of making anti-gay statements. For example he has claimed pedophilia is a homosexual problem.

You're being completely dishonest. I guess I'm not surprised. I said that pediphillis in the Catholic Church is a homosexual problem. I didn't say it was a homosexual problem in larger society. Keep lying.

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If the reasoning behind 'not in their right mind to choose to be gay' is because life would be difficult, then we should also say that 'No one in their right mind would choose to black' or 'no one in their right mind would choose to be woman'.

Being gay in a liberal minded city is not like it was many years ago. Sure gays have struggles, but so do women and other minorities who constantly are fighting to improve pay inequalities, promotions that get overlooked for women, etc.

Why is there even a question of 'why someone would choose to be gay'. Does it really matter? Aren't we past that point with the gay community.

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I thought my statement was pretty logical. Nobody would choose to be gay because there's no legitimate reasons to. If people get offended by logic and reason, that's their problem.

Um ... well ... some say there are benefits ... but ... I won't elaborate.

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You're being completely dishonest. I guess I'm not surprised. I said that pediphillis in the Catholic Church is a homosexual problem.

No it isn't.

It's a pedophilia problem.

The pope corrected himself on that.

Didn't you get the memo?

Don't you think for yourself?

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I thought my statement was pretty logical. Nobody would choose to be gay because there's no legitimate reasons to. If people get offended by logic and reason, that's their problem.

There is no legitimate reason to? What on earth does that mean? The more that people expect gays to have a hard life, the more that discrimination against gays is harder to fade away. Many gays are happily married, are raising a family and are not suffering any hardships except for those who continue to assume they are leading very difficult lives, because 'no one in their right mind would choose to be gay'.

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Do you think they are forced into it...

I think that most of them don't have a choice, or for many it's a very difficult choice. I don't think it's because they want it. I don't consider them mentally ill, but I don't think they're acting of their own free will either.

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I think that most of them don't have a choice, or for many it's a very difficult choice. I don't think it's because they want it. I don't consider them mentally ill, but I don't think they're acting of their own free will either.

Apparently you havent made a choice as to whether you think they have made a choice or not. But how decent of you to conclude they are not mentally ill. I think arrogance of that sort may point to some sort of mental illness.

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