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I think that most of them don't have a choice, or for many it's a very difficult choice. I don't think it's because they want it. I don't consider them mentally ill, but I don't think they're acting of their own free will either.

It sounds like you are talking about aliens from another planet.

Some people are gay. Some people are straight. Some people are transgender.

And everyone has discrimination issues to deal with including all of the above

And you can bet gay people are asking the same question of straight people. ' why would anyone in their right mind be straight'.

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And you can bet gay people are asking the same question of straight people. ' why would anyone in their right mind be straight'.

You're missing it. It's not "why would they BE" , it's a question of: if you COULD choose, why WOULD you choose this ? The question is nonsense, though, because you don't CHOOSE your sexual preference.

Why are we asking a nonsensical question ? To show that if there WERE a choice, the life of a straight person is so much more privileged.

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Didn't you just answer your own question ? People don't choose their sexual preference. They could be exclusively same-sex attracted or both-sex attracted.

Gay and straight are artificial dichotomies that don't actually exist in reality. That's the problem with this entire discussion at the outset. The Kinsey Scale is almost 70 years old now and was further expanded 35 years ago to account for sexual expressions that Kinsey hadn't considered. Dichotomizing orientation is not intellectually sound nor even remotely useful in this discussion and only serves to cast gay people as some outsider in society. You're propagating an us vs them mentality at the outset of the discussion. This entire charade is based on faulty assumptions before you even ask the question, "why would anyone CHOOSE to be gay?" Edited by cybercoma
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Gay and straight are artificial dichotomies that don't actually exist in reality. That's the problem with this entire discussion at the outset.

Dichotomizing orientation is not intellectually sound nor even remotely useful in this discussion and only serves to cast gay people as some outsider in society.

I'm not remotely familiar with the science behind this. Are you saying that the idea of sexual preference as an innate part of one's biology from birth is not intellectually sound ?

You're propagating an us vs them mentality at the outset of the discussion.

"us vs them" is a politicization of what I [currently] see as a biological fact.

This entire charade is based on faulty assumptions before you even ask the question, "why would anyone CHOOSE to be gay?"

Right, because I don't think there is such a thing as choosing that.

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It sounds like you are talking about aliens from another planet.

Only because you're choosing to see it that way.

Some people are gay. Some people are straight. Some people are transgender.

Not really. No one is gay or straight, and they certainly don't choose their place on the scale.

That's a useless throw away line. Some people have more to deal with.

you can bet gay people are asking the same question of straight people. ' why would anyone in their right mind be straight'.

Doubtful. Most people just want to be 'normal'.

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I'm not remotely familiar with the science behind this. Are you saying that the idea of sexual preference as an innate part of one's biology from birth is not intellectually sound ?

It is funny watching progressives twist and spin when they realize the consequences of their own rhetoric.

I don't know what the "science says" and I would not trust any such research to be unbiased enough to be useful. That said, the most logical scenario for me is a spectrum where people at the far end feel compelled to be gay even if that puts their life in jeopardy because they live in an culture that oppresses gays. These people have no choice - it is their biology.

As you move down the spectrum the compulsion gets weaker as people feel less and less need to be gay. In the middle are bisexuals who could go either way depending on who they meet. For these people being gay is a choice. At the other end of the spectrum you have people who are firmly heterosexual.

The only reason this is even a discussion point is progressives want to have it both ways. i.e. they don't want people to say that being gay is a choice but get hot and bothered when people logically suggest that it must not be a choice because no one would willingly choose to put up with the social sanctions on being gay in some societies if it was a choice. A science based discussion would acknowledge that it is likely both biology and a choice depending on the person.

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No it isn't.

It's a pedophilia problem.

The pope corrected himself on that.

Didn't you get the memo?

Don't you think for yourself?

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No, you're wrong. There's a reason why 99.9% of incidents involve boys and not girls.

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You're missing it. It's not "why would they BE" , it's a question of: if you COULD choose, why WOULD you choose this ? The question is nonsense, though, because you don't CHOOSE your sexual preference.

Why are we asking a nonsensical question ? To show that if there WERE a choice, the life of a straight person is so much more privileged.

No. You are missing the point. You are assuming that straight people have more privileges than gay people. That is a faulty assumption as cyber mentioned

Gay people may have more privileges than women or other minorities at least in Canada. This question is being asked to simply satisfy the curiosity of straight people as to what the advantages of being gay are? It's a silly question.

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Only because you're choosing to see it that way.

Not really. No one is gay or straight, and they certainly don't choose their place on the scale.

That's a useless throw away line. Some people have more to deal with.

Doubtful. Most people just want to be 'normal'.

For gods sake. What is your definition of normal?

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I think it is reasonable to say that the sexual orientation of 90%+ of population is normal.

That's your opinion nothing more. Gay people are just as normal as you and I. I suppose children raised in a loving environment with parents who happen to be gay are not normal because their parents aren't?

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That's your opinion nothing more. Gay people are just as normal as you and I. I suppose children raised in a loving environment with parents who happen to be gay are not normal because their parents aren't?

It is not my opinion. It is statistics. If 90% of a population has certain characteritics then those characteritics are normal by definition. Trying to argue against this observation is political correct nonsense.
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For gods sake. What is your definition of normal?

Normal is the sexual orientation required to procreate, I would say. That doesn't mean that being gay isn't natural or that it's bad, it simply means that it's abnormal and non typical.

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I think that most of them don't have a choice, or for many it's a very difficult choice. I don't think it's because they want it. I don't consider them mentally ill, but I don't think they're acting of their own free will either.

I don't think you 'choose' your sexuality. You cannot choose who and what attracts you. As far as homosexuality is concerned it either is the way you were born, or in some cases it could be the result of early childhood/adolescent experiences. There seems no scientifically definitive certainty to that. But it's not a matter of 'choice'.

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And you can bet gay people are asking the same question of straight people. ' why would anyone in their right mind be straight'.

Because it's always good to be the majority which sets the rules. Not to mention you don't, when scoping out a date, have to cope with the fact that the odds are 98% they have absolutely no interest in you and might even be hostile to the point of violence to a suggestion otherwise.

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After reading all the comments I have a question for anyone, if people don't choose to be Gay, then what's the differences between a "Gay" person and some one "BI-sexual"???

A wider choice of dates.

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