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If any adult men take that virgin-claptrap seriously it means they are seriously retarded.

Unfortunately, there's still a very large number of people around the world, certainly including adult men, that take the promises or statements of their religions seriously.

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ISIS is a Saudi creation. It's so-called leader has now declared himself the leader of all Muslims.

To me, the non-reaction by the U.S. looks to be a sign that the U.S. does not mind instability and fraction in Iraq. They prefer to allow the bloodshed to continue and to allow these extremists to expand. This is mostly to due with their relationship with Saudi and their undeclared ally, Israel. Israel would prefer to see bloodshed and instability as long as there are no Iranian-friendly governments in power. Even if those who are creating this instability and bloodshed are some of the most vile and inhumane, humans on this planet. This is why they want Assad and Maliki gone. They're too close to Iran.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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If any adult men take that virgin-claptrap seriously it means they are seriously retarded.

You're talking a very uneducated, unsophisticated people whose entire world is shaped by Islam, and who believe wholeheartedly in it.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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It's just too much trouble to explain to you why Iraq was all about oil. Just accept that it wasn't about the missing WMD's or next spring's cabbage crop and you'll be able to follow along. Do your own homework and then come back and join the conversation.

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ISIS is a Saudi creation. It's so-called leader has now declared himself the leader of all Muslims.

To me, the non-reaction by the U.S. looks to be a sign that the U.S. does not mind instability and fraction in Iraq.

Right. So you criticize them when they get involved in the Middle East, and also when they don't get involved. They really can't win with you. Anyways, it has little to do with not minding instability, and more to do with a public that's against getting involved, and a government that doesn't want to get involved either.

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No, they drop bombs and slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians who don't believe in the wings on the back hogwash. And they likely don't believe in dinosaurs walking the earth alongside man or a big boat that fit two animals of every kind.

What kind of lowbrow Neanderthal even contemplates such garbage? What kind of demons would indoctrinate their children into believing in it before they are old enough to decide for themselves? Child abusers? Or priests? Oh wait, they're the same people!

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No, they drop bombs and slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians who don't believe in the wings on the back hogwash. And they likely don't believe in dinosaurs walking the earth alongside man or a big boat that fit two animals of every kind.

What kind of lowbrow Neanderthal even contemplates such garbage? What kind of demons would indoctrinate their children into believing in it before they are old enough to decide for themselves? Child abusers? Or priests? Oh wait, they're the same people!

Demons and devils!

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To me, the non-reaction by the U.S. looks to be a sign that the U.S. does not mind instability and fraction in Iraq.

More likely, the non-reaction by the U.S. is a sign of the US's internal political gridlock, partisan infighting, and lack of will to act.

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It's just too much trouble to explain to you why Iraq was all about oil. Just accept that it wasn't about the missing WMD's or next spring's cabbage crop and you'll be able to follow along. Do your own homework and then come back and join the conversation.

It had very little to do with oil. More to do with Bush being an idiot.

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Great explanation -1=, for the reason the US declared a phony war against Iraq. Bush2 was an idiot? And after that demonstration of your level of crassness and disregard for humanity and the truth, it just makes me shake my head when some people will criticize 'me' for saying the Palestinian people need to fight back with all means they have at their disposal, against the evil Zionist apartheid regime.

that criticism was an example of people who know they're right because the propagandists have convinced them they're right, of grunting out their approval of the evil they support. They know little more of the situation and so instead of keeping their cakeholes shut, they show their ignorance and gross stupidity.

But you can do better -1=e, etc!

So show us how you can by telling us what the real reason for the war against Iraq was? Take your time!

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Great explanation -1=, for the reason the US declared a phony war against Iraq. Bush2 was an idiot?

Yes, Bush was an idiot, Blair was an idiot, Obama is an idiot and Cameron is an idiot. The West is in its current situation because of its stupidity and ignorance which lead to poor decisions. This isn't due to some hidden intent to get middle eastern oil (otherwise America would build keystone XL to buy Canadian oil, and China would be the main benefactor of Iraqi or Afgan oil. There was never sufficient evidence to justify invading Iraq, and when it was done there was no end goal or consideration of religious divides.

for saying the Palestinian people need to fight back with all means they have at their disposal, against the evil Zionist apartheid regime.

So you advocate suicide bombings against the Israelis? That is messed up.

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Whoa there -1=e, etc., don't try to demonize me by attributing to me that which I'm not asking for. Suicide bombings are only one means of seeking revenge by freedom fighters.

But I suggest that here's what you are advocating: Bombing of the civilian population of women and children indiscriminately with huge bombs that slaughter thousands of people at a time. Something like the US used on the Cambodian people.

Isn't that what 'you' really want? Isn't it really just a matter of who is doing the killing and has nothing to do with how the killing is done? I mean, why would you care? Why would you care if an American strapped a bomb to himself and went to Iraq and detonated himself next to a hundred or so Muslims? Would you not celebrate his success and even observe a minute of silence for his supreme sacrifice? Hmmmmm?

Don't mess with me unless you want turnabout young man!

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Suicide bombings are only one means of seeking revenge by freedom fighters.

You advocate 'all means', which obviously would include suicide bombing...

I don't know wtf you are talking about with respect to the rest of your post.

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What's your problem with suicice bombing? We're not talking about who the intended victims are but a means of warfare used by those who don't have huge military means such as WMD's. Would it displease you less if I advocated fighting back with bombs in civilian population areas? What's your preferring manner of killing people in a war?

you wanted to talk about it -1=e, now talk about it.

I'm going to tell you right now that I don't see that there should be any preference of one method over another. It can be as humane as killing people can be or it can be as evil and torturous. Neither side has any sort of monopoly over the other.

So in truth, suicide bombing is sort of more humane, if in fact any sort of killing can be considered humane.

Now answer up and then I can go back to just ignoring your silliness of finding one method preferential over another.

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No, they drop bombs and slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians who don't believe in the wings on the back hogwash.

Actually, most of the Iraqis who died were killed by fellow Iraqis.

I always find it interesting when people like you scream 'atrocity' every time the Americans, while fighting a war, accidentally kill a civilian, but keep entirely quiet as terrorists deliberately blow up markets full of women and children.

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Whoa there -1=e, etc., don't try to demonize me by attributing to me that which I'm not asking for. Suicide bombings are only one means of seeking revenge by freedom fighters.

Making excuses for suicide bombing by fanatical religious zealots noted.

But I suggest that here's what you are advocating: Bombing of the civilian population of women and children indiscriminately with huge bombs that slaughter thousands of people at a time.

Cite? I'll even take RT for that one!

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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So you advocate suicide bombings against the Israelis? That is messed up.

I don't see him restricting it simply the Israelis...

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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-1=e, etc., You haven't told us what's so wrong about suicide bombing in comparison to the US or other militarily powerful nations using bombs and other weapons of mass destruction.

How about equating to Kamikazi pilots of WW2? Was that in some way evil or was it just using the power of religious persuasion to convince soldiers to give their lives for the cause?

You brought up the point on suicide bombers and it's a good one. A discussion on it could help us to find our way through the US propaganda jungle they depend on so much in order to convince stupid people to see it their way. Don't run away now, it's your issue!

As for my own personal preferences, I'm againist all killing but my first choice of eliminating a means of killing would be to outlaw the method which has the potential to kill the most people at one time. Huge US bombs on civilian populations come to mind. And of course, Canadian warplanes carrying and dropping that sort of weapons is my chief concern.

So how about you? Why is it that you are so against suicide bombers? Could it have anything to do with the fact that big and powerful nations have no way of defending against them? I think that's what it is -1=e etc!

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-1=e, etc., You haven't told us what's so wrong about suicide bombing in comparison to the US or other militarily powerful nations using bombs and other weapons of mass destruction.

How about equating to Kamikazi pilots of WW2? Was that in some way evil or was it just using the power of religious persuasion to convince soldiers to give their lives for the cause?

I don't believe the kamikazes ever flew into a fruit market.

Neither they, nor the Americans, deliberately target innocent civilians. Suicide bombers most certainly do.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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