This week in Islam

[Argus]

2 hours ago, drummindiver said:

Here's what happened in Ottawa in Islam.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/ottawa-man-29-charged-with-murder-in-deaths-of-his-two-sisters-1.3208497?autoPlay=true

That one doesn't qualify. It was not motivated by religion. They just happen to BE Muslims.

[The_Squid]

1 hour ago, drummindiver said:

My bad. I had heard and read several times they were and thought this report also mentioned that.

I agree, I jumped the shark on assuming honour killing. It's like a scientific theory though. It may not be steadfast,  but after awhile you feel confident in putting your money down.

http://m.torontosun.com/2016/12/17/ottawa-double-killing-victims-were-somali-sisters

Except Scientific Theories are steadfast.  You clearly don't know what a Theory is.

 

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, betsy said:

?????  Huh?

 

Stick to the Austrian Judge ruling, will you?

There's always more to the story, and it's hard to find that 'more' when every single headline focuses on the reduction or elimination of sentence, and gives very little detail about the actual legal reasons behind the ruling.   The best I could find was a Reddit discussion, which was quite interesting if you'd care to look.  

tl:dr - The guy is still in jail, he'll remain in jail.   The "sexual abuse of a minor" charge is airtight.  The prosecution made some errors in proving the 'rape' charge, and that portion needs to be retried to fix those errors.   The guy will probably get even more time added to his sentence.   

 

[betsy]

Breaking News: 

another terrorist attack!  This time, it's the assassination of the Russian Ambassador to Turkey.

 

Quote

 

The assailant referenced the situation in Aleppo after he shot the ambassador in the back.

"Don't forget Aleppo, don't forget Syria," the attacker said in Turkish after gunning down the ambassador, as seen on a video shared by Turkish media from the scene.

"Whoever took part in this cruelty will pay the price, one by one ... Only death will take me from here," the man said, while carrying a handgun.

He then continued in Arabic, saying: "We are the descendants of those who supported the Prophet Muhammad, for jihad."

 

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/russian-ambassador-andrey-karlov-shot-ankara-161219162430858.html

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[kactus]

12 minutes ago, betsy said:

Breaking News: 

another terrorist attack!  This time, it's the assassination of the Russian Ambassador to Turkey.

 

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/russian-ambassador-andrey-karlov-shot-ankara-161219162430858.html

Interesting you are quoting from Aljazeera since many of you on this forum did not consider this news outlet as a serious contender and always argued with BigGuy when he was posting from this site....

Now only when it suits your agenda you choose to cherrypick. Typical!

 

[betsy]

3 minutes ago, kactus said:

Interesting you are quoting from Aljazeera since many of you on this forum did not consider this news outlet as a serious contender and always argued with BigGuy when he was posting from this site....

Now only when it suits your agenda you choose to cherrypick. Typical!

 

 

So, you don't like Aljazeera for a source now? I wonder why? 

 

Isn't Aljazeera, arabic?  I figured, if there's anyone who can understand what the terrorist was saying, it would be Aljazeera!

Other news media has similar reports.  CNN, noticeably, edited terms such as "Allahu Akbar" and "Jihad."

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[kactus]

Just now, betsy said:

Isn't Aljazeera, arabic?  I figured, if there's anyne who can understand what the terrorist was saying, it would be Aljazeera!

Other news media has similar reports.  CNN, noticeably, edited terms such as "Allahu Akbar" and "Jihad."

Yeah yeah yeah bla bla bla! That is what you would figure...obviously! The only thing you can say here is utter the same regurgitated phrases like a parrot "Alahu akbar" and "jihad".  Not so much for your enlightening. Shabat shalom to you too....

 

[betsy]

5 minutes ago, kactus said:

Yeah yeah yeah bla bla bla! That is what you would figure...obviously! The only thing you can say here is utter the same regurgitated phrases like a parrot "Alahu akbar" and "jihad".  Not so much for your enlightening. Shabat shalom to you too....

 

Sorry you're disappointed.  It's not what I could "figure."   It's in the news. :shrug:

 

Of course it'd be repetitive - the Islamist terrorists are always shouting the same things!

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[kactus]

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

Sorry you're disappointed.  It's not what I could "figure."   It's in the news. :shrug:

 

Of course it'd be repetitive - the Islamist terrorists are always shouting the same things!

Why should be disppointed in someone whose comprehension of others is confined in only two words to ridicule them!? No wayyyy I wouldn't give you that luxury. Btw, since you are suddenly so interested in the arabic Aljazeera maybe you ought to read more of their news coverage....just sayin!

[betsy]

4 minutes ago, kactus said:

Why should be disppointed in someone whose comprehension of others is confined in only two words to ridicule them!? No wayyyy I wouldn't give you that luxury. Btw, since you are suddenly so interested in the arabic Aljazeera maybe you ought to read more of their news coverage....just sayin!

Well....the terrorist was shouting in Arabic! Doh.

 Oh, on your way out..... check out the  title of the thread you're in.

 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2016 by betsy

[kactus]

4 minutes ago, betsy said:

Well....the terrorist was shouting in Arabic! Doh.

 Oh, on your way out..... check out the  title of the thread you're in.

 

 

 

On your way in educate yourself a little outside the realm of your comfort zone....Not sitting like a couch potato repeating the same thing over and over. It's bigotted and spews hatred.

[kactus]

9 minutes ago, betsy said:

Well....the terrorist was shouting in Arabic! Doh.

 Oh, on your way out..... check out the  title of the thread you're in.

 

 

 

On your way in educate yourself a little outside the realm of your comfort zone....Not sitting like a couch potato repeating the same thing over and over. It's bigotry, spews hatred and lacks content...

Edited December 19, 2016 by kactus

[drummindiver]

2 hours ago, The_Squid said:

Except Scientific Theories are steadfast.  You clearly don't know what a Theory is.

 

You clearly do not,  hence the difference between theory and law. 

[drummindiver]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

That one doesn't qualify. It was not motivated by religion. They just happen to BE Muslims.

As I said,   I jumped the shark.  I read a muslim male killed his sister and erroneously assumed.

[The_Squid]

15 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

You clearly do not,  hence the difference between theory and law. 

So you don't think Germ Theory is "steadfast"?  

 

[drummindiver]

26 minutes ago, The_Squid said:

So you don't think Germ Theory is "steadfast"?  

 

Theories are not infallible,  hence they are not laws

Here are the main takeaways:

• Fact: Observations about the world around us. Example: “It’s bright outside.”
• Hypothesis: A proposed explanation for a phenomenon made as a starting point for further investigation. Example: “It’s bright outside because the sun is probably out.”
• Theory: A well-substantiated explanation acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation. Example: “When the sun is out, it tends to make it bright outside.”
• Law: A statement based on repeated experimental observations that describes some phenomenon of nature. Proof that something happens and how it happens, but not why it happens. Example: Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation

[The_Squid]

Nothing is infallible in science. 

[WestCoastRunner]

11 hours ago, drummindiver said:

My bad. I had heard and read several times they were and thought this report also mentioned that.

I agree, I jumped the shark on assuming honour killing. It's like a scientific theory though. It may not be steadfast,  but after awhile you feel confident in putting your money down.

http://m.torontosun.com/2016/12/17/ottawa-double-killing-victims-were-somali-sisters

Right. Now that we know it's not honour killing but just a case of domestic homicide we can normalize it. Well done. 

What utter garbage. 

[drummindiver]

We know a Muslim man killed his two sisters. I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions. 

Edited December 20, 2016 by drummindiver

[drummindiver]

6 hours ago, The_Squid said:

Nothing is infallible in science. 

Wrong again.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy

[drummindiver]

Terrorist t attack in Germany. 

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/truck-runs-into-crowded-christmas-market-in-berlin-reports/article33369105/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&service=mobile

[drummindiver]

This has been explained If something happens over and over for the same reason when it happens again uou draft the same conclusions till you are proven wrong.

 

1 hour ago, WestCoastRunner said:

Right. Now that we know it's not honour killing but just a case of domestic homicide we can normalize it. Well done. 

What utter garbage. 

We dont know that. 

Edited December 20, 2016 by drummindiver

[drummindiver]

Terrorist attack in Germany. 

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/truck-runs-into-crowded-christmas-market-in-berlin-reports/article33369105/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&service=mobile

[betsy]

6 hours ago, drummindiver said:

Terrorist attack in Germany. 

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/truck-runs-into-crowded-christmas-market-in-berlin-reports/article33369105/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&service=mobile

 

It seems the same terrorist attack modus operandi as the truck that plowed into a crowd on Bastille day in France.  From the information we gather at that news report....I'm almost sure it's another terrorist attack.

 

Edited December 20, 2016 by betsy

[DogOnPorch]

The article's headline clearly blames the truck.