overthere Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I doubt they're too fond of Eastwood either......... Oh, I think Hollywood loves Eastwood. The reason is simple. He makes movies that make money. It is pretty much the whole premise of the place. Executive producers love directors that make money, and actors love directors that make money because that means the actor may well make more money. Politics do not survive accounting. Oh sure, everybody tosses the odd cookie to social consciousness, but you can be absolutely sure that a publicist has attracted a mass of cameramen to capture the celebrity tossing the cookie-or it doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Oh, I think Hollywood loves Eastwood. The reason is simple. He makes movies that make money. It is pretty much the whole premise of the place. Executive producers love directors that make money, and actors love directors that make money because that means the actor may well make more money. Politics do not survive accounting. Oh sure, everybody tosses the odd cookie to social consciousness, but you can be absolutely sure that a publicist has attracted a mass of cameramen to capture the celebrity tossing the cookie-or it doesn't happen. Yeah it's pretty funny to see people talk about a guy who has been part of the industry machine forever, who makes films with major studio backing and plenty of star power like he's some kind of maverick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 No really, they hate Eastwood, just like they hated Gibson. As soon as he has a misstep, just watch the knives come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 No really, they hate Eastwood, just like they hated Gibson. As soon as he has a misstep, just watch the knives come out. Eastwood has already had several missteps, several movies that have made nothing or were just generally crap. But overall, his movies as an actor made money, and he has had some huge($$$) hits as director/producer, and recently. That means love, baby. Gibson has been in financial decline (meaning lack of profit) for years. One reason is that he has not made the transition from hunk actor to anything else too well. The capper was his insane antiSemitic rants. Buh-bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 No really, they hate Eastwood, just like they hated Gibson. Yes which is why Clint Eastwood can't get a movie made in that town, right? oh wait.... As for Mel Gibson, he lost his mind. As soon as he has a misstep, just watch the knives come out. Seems like people have forgiven or forgotten his RNC appearance. Probably because they felt bad for him more than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Most of Eastwood's career was before the mocking of Obama speech. Since that empty chair speech, they're just waiting for a misstep. So Gibson hates Jews, that should have won fans in the antisemitic left, but it didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Most of Eastwood's career was before the mocking of Obama speech. Since that empty chair speech, they're just waiting for a misstep. You would think the embarrassment of the RNC appearance would be enough. I guess in your world one has to be racist to get unfairly drummed out of the Hollywood mainstream That or your tinfoil hat needs adjusting. So Gibson hates Jews, that should have won fans in the antisemitic left, but it didn't. Yeah if there's one place where hating Jews would play well, surely it's Hollywood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Most of Eastwood's career was before the mocking of Obama speech. Good call on that, he has had more of his career before 2012 than since then. I guess that would be predictable for a man that is 84 years old and has been in the business for 60 years. He won't be able to reverse that trend unless he works until he is 145 or so. But he has had three major projects since the RNC in 2012: Trouble with the Curve(actor/director), Jersey Boys(producer/director) and now American Sniper(producer/director). The first two were of avwerage quailty, the latter looks like a smash hit. I'd say that is a continuation of an incredible career by normal standards, and an astonishing output for a man of 84. There have been very few like him, in fact I cannot think of anybody that has has a similar stellar career as actor, director and producer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Personally, I'm not saying that making an average movie constitutes a misstep. The old guy may be too cagey to screw up, at least he doesn't seem to have any racist issues or odd views on women, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Personally, I'm not saying that making an average movie constitutes a misstep. The old guy may be too cagey to screw up, at least he doesn't seem to have any racist issues or odd views on women, etc. Seriously, we are talking about Clint Eastwood! He is 84 and absolutely untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 He is 84 and absolutely untouchable. No one is untouchable right now... and there are examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusThermopyle Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Latest movie I've watched was this, last night. I suppose it could go in the sports section as well. In truth it isn't really a movie, but it sort of is. This is beyond amazing, a spectacle of perseverance and determination. Next I have to see if I can find coverage of the latest ISDE, America took first place for the first time in 50 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6exXbuzn9I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 This just in, American Sniper has grossed 154 million as of Jan 23, and quite the accomplishment for a Jan release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Saw American Sniper a couple days ago. It was OK. Lots of action, lots of closeups of Bradley Coopers penetrating gaze and forthright booyah nature. For me, too much sniper porn with many shots of the bad Iraqis getting drilled, kind of a tiresome video game. I don't mind violence in movies, but this seemed gratuitous after a while. The supporting cast- not so supportive. His wife played by Sienna Miller got tiresome quickly. The rahrah aspects are a bit surprising after previous Eastwood efforts like Letters from Iwo Jima and Flags of our Fathers. I'd give it 7/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusThermopyle Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Letters was superb. The fact that he managed to generate simpathy for the Japanese soldiers was outstanding. A prime example of good effective story telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Inherent Vice. Just... brilliant. Fantastically done. Caveat: If you like movies to make sense, if you like to be able to follow the story from beginning to end, if you need the narrative to be clean with no sprawling end points then do NOT see this. This film is the LSDescendant of The Big Sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 OH my. I would rate Inherent Vice as one of the years biggest disappointments. I think it is intended as some kind of noire comedy. It was not funny and much of the dialogue was mumbled. Maybe it was funny or interesting, but who can tell when the principals speak with mouths full of marbles? In the middle of the movie there were a few people snoring loudly nearby, and I found myself wishing I was one of them. It is down to one screen already and will mercifully be gone entirely soon. I did detect a story, but it was just not interesting. What a waste of a fine cast. I normally like Andersons work, but this one is not his best by any stretch. It is made immeasurably worse by being a full hour too long. Your opinion may differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I think it is intended as some kind of noire comedy. No. It was a sprawling travelogue of the cultural changes of the 1960s and 1970s. There was lots of humour IN it, of course. It was not funny and much of the dialogue was mumbled. Maybe it was funny or interesting, but who can tell when the principals speak with mouths full of marbles? Certain types of movies demand that you try harder, and people usually hate those movies. Your opinion may differ. It does. I would put it in a group of influence, and along the lines of such brilliant works as: The Big Sleep The Killing of a Chinese Bookie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas The Big Lebowski The Long Goodbye Chinatown BUT.. BUT.. BUT.. with an incomprehensible story.. that list is in order of similarity and you can note that the strongest stories are at the bottom of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I have seen two 'best picture' nominees this year - Birdman and Grand Budapest Hotel - and this beats both of them IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I've been told Captain Phillips is based on a true story, but also heard the movie failed to deliver a true story. Again, Hollywood. I know nothing about the movie or book. But I will predict that the movie is over dramatic, over sensationalized, rah rah US military, heart breaking scenes, inward struggle/turmoil of main character in his role in the military. Looks like American Sniper really mowed down the competition this weekend. I want to see it because Michael Moore apparently hates it...good enough for me:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I have seen two 'best picture' nominees this year - Birdman and Grand Budapest Hotel - and this beats both of them IMO. Yeah, I'd be surprised to see this movie do well at the Oscars, it's too "pro war", which is to say it just tells the story without an anti-military bias of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 This movie seems to be turning into some kind of litmus test for patriotism in America. If you question the veracity of Chris Kyle's accounts, why are you spitting on the graves of American war heroes? If you think the movie is simplistic, why do you not Support The Troops? If you think the movie was just not very good, why do you hate America? If you've got something negative to say about American Sniper, you're literally worse than the Dixie Chicks. Do you now, or have you ever, held a negative opinion about American Sniper? -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 This movie seems to be turning into some kind of litmus test for patriotism in America. Funny, but the lefties were saying the same thing about The Deer Hunter and other films after the Vietnam War. America goes to war, then it makes movies about it. Platoon was written in response to The Green Berets. So what's the big deal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 seem to have struck a nerve with Michael, to the extent he has gone generic hate on me. Certain types of movies demand that you try harder, and people usually hate those movies. Mike, I'm a movie slut. I'll watch anything at a theater, we go to at least one per week for many years and indie flicks are usually the first choice. As I said, Anderson has done some fine work. Th underrated Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood is a masterwork, Hard Eight was decent , Punch Drunk LOve amazingly made Adam Sandler look like an actor and I may be the only person who loved Magnolia. But Inherent Vice is a big swing and miss. The Big Sleep: I sincerely hope you mean the Bogart version, a classicThe Killing of a Chinese Bookie: have not seenFear and Loathing in Las Vegas: a tiresome wank from Johnny Depp and a waste of the mighty Benicio de Toro. The book is wonderful.The Big Lebowski: one of the best movies of all time in my world. I suspect Anderson was aiming for this but sadly fell far shortThe Long Goodbye: not bad, looks dated nowChinatown: brilliant movie Inherent Vice is not comparable to this list in any way. It's also the second very long slow movie by Anderson. I wonder if he is falling victim to Eddie Murphy syndrome, and refuses to edit anything. Inherent Vice is far too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 seem to have struck a nerve with Michael, to the extent he has gone generic hate on me. Hate ?!? Come on ! But Inherent Vice is a big swing and miss. I need you to comment on my list of films above first before I consider your comment. If you can, I'd appreciate it. Inherent Vice is not comparable to this list in any way. It's also the second very long slow movie by Anderson. I wonder if he is falling victim to Eddie Murphy syndrome, and refuses to edit anything. Inherent Vice is far too long. Do you like John Cassavetes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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