impartialobserver

so easily confused, you are.... My post that started this thoroughly pointless discussion was purely objective.. meaning, I have no personal interest in the outcome. If the post that started this was not about israel or hamas.. you need some better reading glasses or lay off the bottle. CdnFox was able to discern that it was about Israel or Hamas but you were not.. Hmm... Your responses to me are purely subjective... full of assumptions about how I need to care about the outcome. "You would think that after 75 or so years... that they would figure this out. However, it appears not. It would appear that they need more creative solutions other than try to live in the same space and not fight over limited resources. I could be wrong but occupation simply prolongs things.. violence will come in time. Its not a matter of when not if. Its like having two siblings in the same room.. sometimes you have to put them in separate rooms and give them something to do other than stew/fester over the conflict. "

my wife does the majority of the cooking. However, it is more about time than ability. I get home at 7 pm and so if we had to wait for myself to get things ready.. would not be eating until 8 if not later. On the weekends, it is mostly my turn. She is the more skilled baker and better with desserts. As for the savory dishes; tacos, enchiladas, BBQ, chile relleno, etc.. that is my strong suit.

You are easily confused. I am objectively posting about the topic, Israel vs. Hamas. You... on the other hand, are not objective. Your views on this topic are quite subjective. I can tell that it bothers you that I am not emotionally invested in the topic of Israel vs. Hamas.

Run away... still here. Between the two of us.. I am easily the more objective one. Your first question comes from the subjective point of view... I know that you can't see that. You expect me to be as emotionally invested as you... that is subjective.

the time honored battle of getting the last word in ^^^^^

Not going to play your disingenuous game. Been around the block a few too many times to take the bait Your lack of objectivity is easily spotted.. your first question is evidence. Quite the terrible poker player. First, the conflict predates me as I was born in 1977. Second, it affects me directly in no way. Third, I have no control over the outcome. My being outraged for either side changes absolutely nothing. It appears that your outrage is also quite ineffective. It still keeps happening even though your post time after time. So what I am getting out of this pointless discussion is that you can't fathom that I am not emotionally invested. Well.. I am not so either get over it and move on or continue talking to yourself. my curiosity is simple.. why it keeps going and going? Answer.. it is multifaceted.

Au contraire.. I can tell you why it is dry in Nevada but not care if it is or not. Your lack of objectivity is too easily spotted. Its fine.. you deeply care about the Israelis. I do not. My only curiosity is why this conflict keeps going and going as well as the others in the ME.

Objective.. yes. Moral...this is where you show your passion because I never mentioned being more or less moral than anyone else. When I read about this story and the ME in general... I do not care who is right, wrong, the victim, the oppressor. Clear enough? I only ponder why it keeps going on in perpetuity. Why that area has such violence.. not just Israel but Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, etc. I can tell you that it comes down to more than just one religion hating the other. It has many layers.

smh... If the land mass was larger and not one of inherently limited resources.. a whole lot of solutions could be brought forth. But it is not. Unlike you, I have no dog in the fight and therefore no one to defend. Your passions preclude you from seeing anything other than simple good vs. evil. You should read Cities of Salt... then you would have a greater understanding of the ME and not just that they are evil.

and so as a result.. the media in an effort to get clicks, ratings, and revenues.. focuses on the unusual. If their story was that thousands stood there, yelled, screamed, but mostly occupied space, who reads this? Additionally, folks crave style over substance. So they focus on the unusual and add dramatic flair.. this gets you ratings. ESPN radio did a test study once. For 3 days.. the hosts did nothing but break down games, stats, etc. No opinions. X player rushed for 105 yards, 45 of which was on 2nd down, and so on. Ratings went down 85%. The next 3 days.. they did nothing but "hot takes". Lots of opinions, predictions, social commentary.. Ratings more than recovered.

Well.. its about to become the lead story. The stupidity of the responses will mostly like be something straight out of the movie, "idiocracy". But Brawndo has what plants crave, it has electrolytes.

You would think that after 75 or so years... that they would figure this out. However, it appears not. It would appear that they need more creative solutions other than try to live in the same space and not fight over limited resources. I could be wrong but occupation simply prolongs things.. violence will come in time. Its not a matter of when not if. Its like having two siblings in the same room.. sometimes you have to put them in separate rooms and give them something to do other than stew/fester over the conflict.

However, human nature gets in the way. We focus on the outlier, the extremes. 98% of the crowd was peaceful and did little else other than occupy space. Do we focus on the average day.. where nothing happens or that one time when it was abnormally cold, hot, rainy, snowy, etc? Research shows that we irrationally focus on that one day out of 3650 (10 years) as an example.

If the land being fought over was something akin to Illinois or British columbia.. large land area, lots of water, suitable for growing lots of varied crops.. this would be different. However, it is not. It is very arid and not all that large. Put a large population there and there are going to be struggles. I would guess that it would lessen the violence just a bit. You get away from the omnipresent conflict and start living daily life... some of them would put the radical ideas aside for some time or forever. In a place with more resources.. they would not be so desperate and feel the need to fight back against the oppressor (real or perceived).

this embodies most internet forum types. Their confident, uncompromising, confrontational ways melt away when you meet them in real life. I met one from a forum.. he was a big talker. He could whip my a$$ and such.. when I met him, he was a frail old man with an oxygen tank who barely said a word at a town hall meeting.

Yet another supposed connection to Hitler. As soon as a politico or ideologue (both liberal and conservative) does not like something.. they have to bring in the words nazi, hitler, or third reich. It has lost its shock value..

There are quite a few on here and in general that can't understand that. You must be someone that looks for self identity in the form of the team/party. How can you possibly be individual and therefore not predictable?

as it stands now.. this is going to be more lather, rinse, and repeat. Israel retaliated as they should. Palestine and Hamas will fight back at some time. Poverty, desperation, and violence lead to more violence. It is just a matter of how long the proverbial pot simmers. If there ever was going to be a solution.. it would be to have the Muslim world in general accept the palestinians into their nations as refugees (of a sort). The high population puts a strain on resources and that makes for poverty/desperation in pockets. Now, some places would be no better such as Yemen, Iran, or Mauritania. Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, or Algeria are somewhat less volatile and could handle a small influx in population.

I view the pride flag as being inclusive. It is not a zero sum game where if you say that you accept x group then you automatically exclude the y group. Heterosexuals do not need any overt sign of acceptance.. the evidence is everywhere. So we accept heteros and the pride flag says that we accept gays as well.. repeat as well. It is like an excel spreadsheet.. we are simply adding rows of acceptance to the bottom of the list. By saying that I accept gays... does not mean that I do not accept heteros. The ten commandments.. is not necessary inclusive in and of itself. Different meaning and purpose behind it. However, the kids are not forced to read it nor be religious so pretty benign in all reality. I made up my mind that I was atheist at age 5 and even if there had been stuff like this at my school.. nothing would have changed.

Water scarcity is not a nationwide issue. It is really only an issue in NV, UT, Eastern Oregon, Southern and Eastern CA, Southern NM, and some parts of AZ. The climate and geography along with major population growth factor into this. Of course, there was plenty to go around in 1940 when the population was 1/10 or less of what it is today in some places. As for the agriculture.. not going anywhere. You can grow certain crops in the Central Valley like nowhere else in America due to 310 to 320 days of sunshine, rare freezing temps, low humidity, and soil that has not been drained of all its nutrients.

not explicitly it was not. Now was he upset that some took it too far.. not one bit.

Trump said the same thing and it meant the same thing. Just because a relatively few nutcases took it a bit too far does not mean that he was explicitly calling for armed, violent revolution.

This is too funny... When politicians use the word, "fight", rarely do they mean armed combat or fist of cuffs. It equates to impassioned, purposeful action against someone or something. That action could be words, court cases, legislation, protesting, etc.

Yeah.. that speech is pretty dumb. It makes sense in some places such as Las Vegas, the Inland Empire of Southern California, Southern Utah to have flow restrictors. It is a bit of an exaggeration that they slow things down to a drip. I am sure that there are rare cases where it has been that way. The colorado river is over-allocated. As for CA and the San Joaquin Delta.. it needs a major overhaul of the water rights. Much of which are far too generous for given farmers. The environmental effects would be largely mitigated if efficiency was brought to the forefront not legal precedence. https://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/article/meat-of-the-matter-colorado-river-over-consumed/#:~:text=The river is fully consumed,and beef cattle are grown.

It is the nature of internet forum posters (with very few exceptions).. if they answer you directly then they have no wiggle room in the future. If they keep skirting the question.. then they stay alive proverbially speaking. They can countering you and when pressed.. they can state (and rightfully so) that they never explicitly stated whatever.