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And several of those 34 visits to the Cooler are from responding to you.

I already have a community rating here: 34 visits to the Cooler and 20,000 posts. If you don't like me, I don't care. I'm still coming for your throat. En Garde!

Let's agree to not being lab rats in this experiment, eh?

Hardly guilt. The Cooler gives me a chance to arrange M.Dancer's bones into comical poses. Besides, there's a stool, now...and the cockroaches are fresh.

Is there anyway one can give the f---ing things all to Charles?

Here you go....I'm giving you some.

Another one who has forgotten the US election. No thanks re: your points.

And yet, when a couple of dozen people turned up at the mosque where that kind of thing was being preached, to protest it, you felt the need to start a topic to discuss their 'Islamophobia'.

And I'm sure they were all Arab Muslims. Because sexual assaults are never done by the anglo-saxons. Let the 'omg this is never done by non-immigrants' excuses ensue. Those Arab Muslims, they love to walk up the women and grab their pu**ies.

I dish em out to anyone who makes me laugh. Sometimes I give a minus... also for laughs!

but Trudeau is way more likely to mess up without all that big and best stuff, you know? Trump has all the best things. He's got the best people, the best resources, the best experience, the biggest military, the biggest small hands, the best hair and definitely the best words. The job's going to be a cakewalk for him. His administration is a finally-tuned machine firing on all cylinders.

....or try to hitch a ride on USA copters.

Trudeau is trying to pull a fast one. I don't think USA will buy that. If they did, then every country that sends troops will say they're contributing "qualitatively" to NATO. It's humiliating for Canada.

I think Trump's trouble with New START is that Russia continues to develop newer ICBMs on mobile launchers with increasing numbers of MIRV warheads. Each RV (holding the MIRVs) is counted as one warhead for the old START Treaty, if I recall. The US hasn't built a new ICBM in decades. Same goes for the Russian bomber fleet...each counts as one warhead, if I recall correctly under START. All Russian bombers now carry multiple rotary cruise missile launchers as well as options for the conventional method...bombs away! Russia still maintains a big bomber fleet.

There Impact, let's raise yours too. Whoaaa! Who's the rat who gave you a minus and wasted and cancelled mine? Here's another one!

Your funeral...your dime.

Ok, I'm on board as well. Lets put the Dog over the top.

When I get home I will support @ BCSapper in his quest to put DoP 50 points ahead. Good luck, Dog.

It was clear we'd be heading down this road almost 15 years ago. This was never rocket science but that said we still can't admit how much migration is probably due to climate change as much as anything - and we still haven't seen anything yet. Anyway I agree with Argus that Canada should embrace its role of being a Shining Beacon. Its still may not be too late to make a difference even if that time must be fast approaching. Better to have tried and failed than to have done nothing at all.

Yes but then you fall into the trap that Liberal Politicians are setting out. Say you oppose racism and move on. Which is what Brown did.

Indeed. This didn't go as planned, eh? Sort of like the election in the USA. Why aren't I 50 points ahead??

The skin colour of the illegal line jumpers is not the issue. Neither is their culture. They do what they do because they are poor. They jump the lines ahead of refugees and immigrants because they know they won't qualify under the rules of those two streams of acceptance and eligibility. They break the laws and jump the lines because our government rewards them for doing so. I have said all I will say in the other thread but this issue is not going away and it has nothing o do with the culture or skin colour of the illegals it has to do with understanding if you allow and reward ANYONE to break the very laws you expect others to follow, you create chaos and anarchy which is what we have on our borders.

Nice sarcasm, glad to see you're feeling better!

You mean like they did in Soviet Russia?

Nice rant, but do you really think this is all Mike Pences fault, or is it the fact that the Trump government is calling out ALL nations that fell below the 2 % mark, the fact is really we have not been at the 2 % mark since the late 50's....and while alot of nations have called us out on it, we have blushed , said we will work harder next year, and so on and so on, to we get to where we are today, some 50 years later, still riding the cheap wave to the beach...in fact we resigned this NATO defense alliance not so long ago, knowing we where short on our 2 % of GDP goal....but hey we got away with it for 50 years why not a couple more.....well Canada is not the only nation riding this wave or peace dividend, the numbers are swelling fast.....Leaving the US to pony up for these shortfalls, something it is growing tired of, who could blame them.....And this is your message to the US government Go F8ck yourself.....Well you 've already heard the US response....NO you go fuc* yourself, pay up or get out......Kind of hard to sit at the grown up table when you don't pay any of the bills..... While the US military has had some problems, most are fixed today, But lets remember we live in a glass house as well, and for every problem they have.... we have dozens of problems...that have gone unaddressed for years...there are more than 2 dozen programs available to US service personal coming home from conflict, along with dozens of other that are sponsored by civilian companies.....here in Canada there are 1 or two programs available while you serve, and maybe 3 or 4 programs offered by civilain companies, thats right Canadian civilian companies are paying the bulk of the costs for rehab programs for soldiers.....Not only is this sanctioned by our government but also by it's citizens....How many soldiers in Canada has committed suicide after they have come back....the answer changes every day, a year ago it surpassed the numbers killed in combat....Thanks for having our backs....if this was an issue for the people of Canada something would have been done by now.......But because our military is nothing but a dirty word to most Canadians......this will go on until the numbers exceed beyond all our expectations.... Canada will spend what it has agreed to spend 2 %, or it will end up on the side lines pouting because they got their fingers caught in the cookie jar, and freeloading for over 50 years, and what did they do with all that funding they were suppose to spend .....pissed it away......here is a kleenex go wipe your tears.....

Canadian military is the second highest paid military in the world, the first place winners are Australian.....below is a copy of wages in 2016, i think they have gone up since then by a small percentage, note the records say 2013 but they are current....according to a pay clerk...on top of that all civilian staff are public servants which although are not paid as high as DND, they don't come cheap... http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/10/30/canadas-military-among-highest-paid-in-the-world http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/pay-rates.page

And you wonder why I ask 'what's a Native?' I'm more Metis than Riel.

You're not getting Islam. It is important for Muslims to feel that the infidel know their status as second class citizens. ...fight them until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. https://quran.com/9/29 Thus: a special law aimed at protecting Muslims and sticking it to the Kufar. This is important in Islam. Making the Kufar feel humbled/subdued.

Look up straw-man before you post again please. I don't want to hide it from anyone. I would love to have more public spending accountability. Nobody suggested otherwise anywhere. Stop pretending like someone has. This is juvenile, school-yard logic. The fact that there are problems elsewhere doesn't mean that Bombardier itself isn't a problem and that we shouldn't be discussing it specifically. Your argument is akin to the small child saying, "...but but they all did it toooo!" You see the thread title? It's about Bombardier.

I totally agree with the above. There are people now with 70+ points and it's really becoming nothing more than a silly popularity contest.

The issue is why anyone should listen to any argument that needs to be based on a lie before it can proceed - something right-wing conservatives appear to do a lot more routinely than progressives.

Throw their unrepentant asses into jail and start a public education program aimed at teaching people why right-wing conservatism is not a Canadian value.

Wonder why those allegations are questionable rue. You may have seen something in my post there which fits you nicely into one of those people to slander me Subjective based on your opinion not mine.... The subject matter of the conversation here are syrian refugees not palestinians. But since you brought them up palestinians are muslims which many here blame for Islam. So stereotyping against muslims happens all the time. Rue, rue, rue.....Stop it! Really stop this nonsense victim card that you play over and over again. You know you are beginning to sound like godwin to literally kill off the discssion for anyone who dismisses the israeli government. That is pure hyperbole and scare mongering I have seen you resort to to divert from other pertinent issues. Ofcourse you would do that in a biased way in favour of Israel as I would expect a hard core palestinian doing the same for their palestinian cause. Difference is you get your brownies from alot of advocates here. Palestinians don't have same privileges to voice their concerns. And if a liberal like me as some of you like to refer to me voice those concerns you would't hesitate to shut it off because it shakes your norm/ what you are inclined to listen to. So for you to critisize me in this way is not surprising. I think it's rich of you coming on this board putting words in my mouth... I am sorry rue but that is just drivel....Again it wouldn't stop you falling short of calling me and almost half the people on this forum as anti semitic because that rhyme does not play welll with you. Well guess what I don't deny the fact that the actions of the Israeli government is attrocious and if you are too blind to condone that then too bad. Not my problem... Same way you have been using the anti semite card with anyone who disagrees with the israeli government's policies and have accused them. That sir is an ignorant belief that whatever is happening there right now including the construction of illegal settlements in occupied territories is somehow justified. That phrase 'practice what you preach' is very appropriate here. Fyi, it is not your right to continue building settlements in an area that does not belong to you. And that honourable gentlemen is breaching the UN resolution. Until you do breach your comments are bigoted. Self inflicted travesty...

Because encouraging dictators to spend less on their mliitary always works out so well... The reason the West spends so much more on their military is largely because of personnel costs. The Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians, etc., don't pay very high salaries or benefits. They don't need to as they all have the draft. So that huge additional cost the West puts into its military doesn't translate into more tanks, ships or airplanes, nor more people. It just translates into higher paid soldiers.

But we gave it away decades ago. We decided we'd rather give in to the Americans and let them take care of it than pay for things ourselves. Now Trump is in the White House and Trump doesn't see things in isolation. He links things together. I can EASILY see him linking our NATO contributions to whatever trade deals he chooses to make. He has to know how important a trade deal is for Canada. If he starts threatening import duties, maybe, in his mind, to help compensate America for the money we're not spending on NATO even though we agreed to it, then our 'interests' are going to quickly require we put more money into the military.

Yes there was........but its sure gone now!!! Interesting revision of history.......Harper reduced funding to the DND both when we ended our mission in Afghanistan (Why pay for a war we are no longer fighting?) and like every department, during the fiscal crisis............ Regardless, Harper is no longer the head of the government, nor will this demand by the Trump administration be his problem..... No, the only cuts to members pay and benefits has been on the part of the Trudeau Liberals and their clawing back of tax free status for those serving in combat zones. Ahh but it was you that went down this road, I simply made a factual observation as to this Governments ability, when it so desires, to spend billions into deficit........an observation very much topical on a subject that will require a further increase in annual spending. If this government raises taxes to pay for billions more for defense, the only thing that will give will be its own electoral chances in 2019.......This government truly is in a pickle, and like most of the World, was caught off guard with the Trump win. A challenge for sure, but then, if this government were smart, it would attempt to narrow the gap through deficit spending on both infrastructure and the purchasing of big ticket items, in essence one off purchases versus sunk costs associated with a massive increase in the number of personal...........buy the actual items the military needs, spread it out over the next several years and hope normalcy returns (and/or commodity prices) in the next few years.

Back to the topic, here are a few Canadian names that I bet raise the odd eyebrow among visitors. Newfoundland seems to have majority at least according to this list. I am lucky enough to have visited almost all these places so I'm feeling quite patriotic aujourd'hui http://cottagelife.com/canadiana/the-strangest-place-names-in-canada

Trump seems to have taken to hanging around hangars lately. So now he's in one in Florida holding another "campaign rally". When is he going to figure out the campaign is over, that he lost the popular vote, that he didn't have the highest electoral college votes ever, and that perhaps it is time to start trying to govern? Oh well, Floridians did support him so I image the hangar will be yuuugely full. http://www.vocativ.com/403839/donald-trump-is-already-holding-another-campaign-rally/

Still buying Trump's birther crap I see. That very American guy finished out two terms as POTUS with one of the highest approval ratings in the country's history. If it wasn't for the two term limit Obama would still be there. And now after a month of Trump the place is in chaos.

Better yet...what's a REAL Native?

Uh.......I got a big surprise with this whole slew of notification, and when I saw my community rating today. Thank you for those. Must be for Valentine's Day. Can I change my position on this? Maybe....community rating is good after all? Just kidding!

It's the support for eroding a principle that goes back to the Peace of Westphalia that should be at issue and especially the grotesque means by which it's being eroded.

If that's the case the mods should present us with the MLW approved version of history so we can proceed from there. Otherwise they should follow or stay out of the way.

Yes I did. I told you I'd try my best to emulate the woman in the story I posted - I'd try to maintain my humanity. I sure as hell wouldn't turn into a conservative and start demanding the death penalty and blaming the god damn lefties for everything.

I'd try my best to think like this. We spoke to Anne Marie Hagan, a woman whose father was murdered brutally by an axe-wielding, schizophrenic man, who she later forgave. https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/why-canada-should-consider-forgiving-vince-li

What's missing from this discussion is evidence as opposed to the opinion that Vincent Li was off his meds. That evidence will always be missing because it just ain't true.

You ever had a loved one become schizophrenic and then have other fearful ignorant loved ones blame you for causing it? That's the sort of sick twisted world it is out there for families and people with mental illness every single day. People who lie about Vincent Li are mistreating him and every other person that suffers mental illness along with him. That's why its necessary to protect him.

Has to do with how we apportion heath care dollars.

As has always been the case, the right wing redneck religious freaks who stand up to deny a woman her right to governance over her own body, and want to force her into an unplanned, unwanted pregnancy, are the first ones to fail to offer her any assistance after the fact. And so we will head down the path once again that will produce seriously health compromised, or even dead mothers along with unwanted fetuses. One step ahead and how many back?

That's not what your cite says. You got your alternative facts and then you got your alternative interpretations.