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Canada deserves everything Justin throws at them, not once not twice but this will be 3 time he will get a win... you just can't beat stupid...And if he gets a majority he will finish burning this nation to the ground.

This time Ontario is way above last years numbers, at which time, obviously there were no vaccinated. It makes it very unlikely that vaccinated do not transmit - it would mean that less than a third of population makes several times over the cases of the last year and such a dramatic shift would certainly have been noticed by the research community. And that removes all grounds for mandatory, and imposed vaccinations. With great majority vaccinated (we have close to 70% and children will add more) remove all restrictions, vaccinated people are protected and unvaccinated ones responsible for their choices, like drinking, smoking, drugs etc. Nothing is essentially different in this case, unless proven by facts. And now let's see what actually happens. P.S. with reports of suppression of information in scientific circles some may want to reserve their judgement till more representative data is available.

After everything Justin has done to date ,do you really think calling an election during a pandemic is going to stick, I'd bet a full months paycheck that Justin could take a dump on a liberals voters doorstep, run naked through parliament, do one more black face, and dance at the gay pride parade in a toto. And still get a majority.

Please ask the dinosaurs. They thought that good times never end and there always will be another bunch of juicy leaves to much on.

I get it , you don't vote liberal, and maybe you see Justin as just a pain in the ass, but this country has never been this divided. Other than dope what has he done for this country. We have not seen this much debt ever, this amount is historic, but debt does not effect the majority of Canadians they don't really care. there is no security, and immigration is also at all time highs, when our infra structure can not support what we have already, housing has gone through the roof. We are are throwing away fossil fuels because apparently it's good for the environment, but there is nothing viable to convert to. We don't need to worry about foreign invasion's, we are burning our country down all by ourselves, lead by the woke gang. Ya nothing to worry about here...we are not at war, everything is good...maybe we should ask Greece how that much debt cost them...

You pay me an extraordinary but undeserved compliment. Thank you.

I try to see with my eyes, not ears. Won't repeat here all over again but in one of the threads there's a calculation of expenses for a median family (before taxes just under 90K) and with the prices of the day it's barely enough for daily expenses. It is not possible to study full time and earn living for an average student without going into deep debt. Prices have doubled or more in a generation, while salaries, at the same level, barely moved for most people, except MP and GG. One has to win a lottery to apply for a govt job. So I guess the question is, who is "we" and what do we compare with? With Venezuela, sure better still, but with the dynamics what and where will it be for a median family, in another generation?

So since we all agree that since the vast majority of adults who don’t get vaccinated have chosen not to get vaccinated, and therefore we shouldn’t have mandatory restrictions to protect them, it’s only unvaccinated children under 12 that we need to protect with restrictions. Okay, so what is the risk of death to unvaccinated children? The risk of death to children who get COVID-19 is one in 10000. That’s not one in 10000 children will die of Covid. That’s one in 10000 children who get Covid. Only 20% of all Covid cases in Canada are child cases (for ages 19 and younger). Over a third of children are 12 to 18 years old and therefore eligible for vaccination. How many children in your town are getting Covid? Well we’ve had less than 1.5 million Covid cases in Canada. That’s 4% of the population. So, if roughly 13% of that 4% are unvaccinated kids who get Covid, that means that on average out of a community of 1 million people in Canada, 5200 people in that community will be unvaccinated kids under 12 who get COVID-19, and of that 5200, .01% of those unvaccinated kids will die of Covid. According to current data, death from COVID-19 in unvaccinated children under 12 represents approximately one person in 2 million. It makes sense because as of August 9, 2021, 15 people aged 19 and under have died of Covid-19 in Canada. Also this includes deaths of 12 and up prior to vaccination. So, do you think that any restrictions are necessary in secondary and middle schools where all kids and staff are eligible for vaccination? I do not. I don’t think they’re necessary in primary/elementary schools either based on those rates, since the adults can be vaccinated and don’t need excessive protection. The unvaccinated children are relatively safe from extreme illness and death. I’m sure masking mandates will continue for K-6 students and staff indoors (unnecessarily), certainly in hotspots, which should mean that all other restrictions can be lifted. Really all mandatory restrictions should be lifted. The choice should be up to individuals and parents. About 150 kids aged 15 and under die of cancer each year in Canada, 10 times the death rate for COVID-19 in people age 19 and under. End all restrictions immediately! Stop accepting fascistic government overreach! https://apple.news/ARpPEwaFqSoC5DteJ_mbjgw

Sorry, being online, the emotional context isn't obvious here, is it irony, joke or uniquely Canadian perspective on the democracy? Healthcare in permanent crisis, tuition went up multiples, taxes, transit and municipal costs doubled, housing prices right through the roofs but the government is highly professional, so relax and enjoy your beer.

I’m still mystified as to what you are concerned about. The government works well, even under the extraordinary circumstances of COVID. Trudeau, O’Toole, Singh and Blanchet are honest people. Any government has a degree of corruption but Canada’s is very low. Where there is money, there are pirates. We have a vibrant press that holds the government to account in addition to the opposition. How would you change the system?

"80% of the population???" Where did you get that stat from, scare-monger? Are you trying to make WestCanMan's point for him by leaping aboard the leftist, state-run or corporate media's fear train? Here's one below that surprises me. I don't know how they slipped it by the bosses. 'We are not anti-vaxxers': Concerns over side-effects, research among main reasons some Canadians are not getting COVID-19 vaccine It has to do with the real reasons some Canadians are Vaccine hesitant. Turns out it's not far-right, nut-baggery. The article has some interesting sidebar info too, like alternative vaccines getting long-range testing that may be one jab solutions. I've only scanned the second half so far but I didn't see any talk of therapeutics. For me that's a big one and I'm wondering if that is something the bosses don't want too many people talking about.

Don't take it personally. It makes sense for people to believe what they see on the news. At the same time, you should be paying attention to see if you're being lied to when you're watching networks with such a ripe history of lying and no real relationship with the truth. The CBC narrative that "everybody dies from covid" is just patently false. Why would alt-left news channels take the time to tell you about "a 59 yr-old from a different country who died from C19 with no underlying medical conditions" if that kind of thing was normal? That wouldn't even be a story if we didn't already have very good reason to believe that covid wasn't killing healthy people. And by "reason", I mean statistics compiled by millions of cases in developed countries which show that 95% of C19 deaths are among people over 60, and people over 60 represent less than 15% of the population. And even within that group, the vast majority of deaths are among people with co-morbidities. Why is it that every bit of C19 news that you see counts as fear-mongering, and stats/facts are the one thing that they never discuss? Why are they so set on vaccines as a treatment and bludgeoning all other possible avenues of success? Why are they delivering this narrative about 'the efficacy of vaccines' that seems to be false? How are we to know if it's really "the shiny new Delta Variant' that's rendering the vaxx ineffective, or if that vaxx just wasn't really good enough? Why do they act like no one has died after vaxxing when that's not the case? We hear about every anti-vaxxer who dies, but we never hear about people who died with 3 days of getting vaxxed. There are thousands of them. Why are they a dirty little secret? What about the thousands of people who died from covid after dbl-vaxxing? Literally everything that the leftists and the WHO and the CBC did at the start of the pandemic seemed to be directed at spreading the pandemic. "Covid won't even get here, don't block flights because that's racist, don't quarantine people from covid hotspots, China can have all of our PPE, we will buy the Chinese vaccine, don't wear masks, ride the subway like normal, hug strangers in large groups, rioting and looting will not spread covid but walking in a park will, care homes can handle these C19-infected seniors, etc." If you want to check on all those things, they're all 100% true, and every single one of those things happened after Trump was already actually fighting covid. Trump shut down travel from China after only 5 deaths. He shut down the economy when there were less than 100 deaths. But your news tell you that Trump was a failure and that all of these other clowns were perfect. How the fuck is that even possible? How can a guy like Chris Cuomo, who broke quarantine without a mask on while he was known to be infected, call other people irresponsible for not vaxxing? It's an absolute certainty that Chris's brother, Governor Andrew Cuomo, literally murdered people with covid when he had better alternatives (eg - the temp hospitals set up by Trump) but all that people care about is that he grabbed a couple asses and maybe one set of boobs? Is this shit really news? The day that the leftists stopped doing literally everything that they could to spread covid, they started fear mongering covid and pimping the vaxx (big pharma is one of the most powerful lobbyist groups in the US). "It's the only hope. HCQ will kill you (100% a lie, HCQ's safety has been proven through 7 decades). The vaxxes are perfectly safe. The vaxxes will work. They're working now, don't look at any stats. The Delta variant threw us a curve. Get a booster shot". Ask yourself, how can the people who thought that HCQ was deadly - after being proven safe through billions of doses over 7 decades - suddenly trust vaccines with zero days worth of proven safety records? Big Parma, big tech, and Amazon are making off like bandits right now while small businesses are taking a bloodbath, and all 3 of those guys are right squarely in bed with leftists and their sycophant media. You know for a fact that the news is not telling us the truth about covid, ever. They control us with fear, and you know that you'll be shamed or maybe even lose your job if you speak up. You're just following the narrative without thinking bro. If you even catch the news actively lying to you once, you should remember that for the rest of your life. They lie all the time dude. More often than not, when their lips are moving, they're lying.

Oh! . . . I didn't know that Quebec had joined Canada. When did that happen? Yet, Quebec is receiving huge sums of money from the real Canada. Quebec is Canada's tapeworm. Time to take the medicine and rid ourselves of this parasite . . . .

No they’re not.

Once again, what is the impending doom you guys are always talking about? Debt? We've got through much worse in the 90s. Security? Immigration? Foreign invasion?

The democracy in the country is in the dire state. The most problematic is that there's neither avenues nor working mechanisms to bring it up to date and renew it. This condition is worrying and at some point can become scary.

Canada's relevance to the world with regards to "soft power", "hard power", "seat at the table", peacekeeping, UN influence, "responsibility to protect", etc., etc., has been seriously eroded during Trudeau's tenure as prime minister. Trudeau's personal and PMO failures for several files have created a leadership and policy vacuum that will not easily be filled any time soon. China will continue to treat Canada like a chew toy as long as Justin Trudeau continues his woke reign of virtue signaling for Canada as a "post national" state. The common denominator has been Trudeau and his government, regardless of what the Americans do or don't do (Obama, Trump, or Biden). The Americans are not responsible for a Canada that refuses to be responsible for itself.

Not saying I like it or think its good. Im saying when it comes to Afghanistan, little Hassan with the bandy legs will go with the Taliban long before he will go with any western invader.t

The bureaucracy in this country takes for granted that Canadians will set the checkmark of legitimacy on its near-unlimited rule. The only chance it would notice the citizens any other time is if voter participation would drop below 30% or better 20%. But what would be the chance of that? Nothing any longer matters. This makes no difference to me and for me.

Try to explain "Case Mortality Rate" to a leftist. They only want to hear the fear from the MSM and leftist politicians, and to wrap themselves in a placebovaxx blankie, dreaming of the day when all the unwashed, unvaxxed die hideous deaths.

I’m sorry, but I don’t understand your post. Who are these people and who is this foreign monarch? Canada is a Monarchy but our Queen is a Canadian. She is Canada incarnate.

This will be the lasting image of the Biden administration. And so far, massive inflation high gas prices delta variant

You are indeed a mad man. Be careful aliens don't kidnap you or CIA don't put microchips in your body.

I can't even express how much I love this excuse. It's like an entire Quentin Tarantino movie packed into one sentence.

There are a lot more letters in the Greek alphabet and we are only at delta now.

They just don't want trans people to exist. A large male-looking trans woman is wanted in no washroom by such people. I propose we let them pee on the hoods of the cars in the parking lot with MAGA stickers. Problem solved.

Not just here. I don't hear anyone offline talking about this, so I only have online reaction to go on. Why does male support for women so often coincide with denigration of a minority group? "Protecting women and/or children" was used for the Jewish problem in Germany, to create distrust of Japanese in WW2, to keep gays from acceptance in the 60s, 70s and 80s (maybe longer), to object to women wearing religious attire and now to object to transgender people.