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So how do you live in this Society? Canada took part in all these wars on some level. We even aided the evil regime when the hologram planes flew into the towers that were filled with LSD so the toxins could fool the minds of the millions watching. The lizard army was crafty that day. Why not help your misunderstood brothers in Syria fight off the evil hordes? Why not join government in Venezuela that is showing the world how wonderful socialism works? Why not move to North Korea and be out from under the thumb of this evil regime?

This is not true. A large portion of it deals with kafirs and how to treat them. How to get non-Muslims to submit to Islamic preferences. Thus, demands for prayer rooms and time for prayers at workplaces and school, demands for sexually segregated times for everything, demands to wear burkas at inappropriate times, etc. This is Sharia law implemented. When Trudeau visited the mosque and demanded that women MPs cover up and use the side entrance - Sharia law implemented.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/social-media-users-accuse-cnn-of-fake-news-over-staged-london-attack-protest/news-story/48d9966b71d72a26149b9f9ebae75465 They're duping the viewers......,....to sell their liberal narratives. Don't ever think our own media doesn't do the same.

What everyone seems to be ignoring over on the progressive side is that when it comes to the question of whether Muslims who believe in the niquab - and all that is associated with it - should be allowed to immigrate to Canada, we're talking about what is best for Canada, not for the Muslim in question. Is it, in other words, better to bring over a niquab wearing Muslim woman from the middle east or, instead, say a British or French Christian woman. Personally, I go with the British or French woman. The government itself says Europeans are the most economically successful immigrants to Canada (people from the M.E. are the LEAST economically successful), their cultural values are similar to ours, and they are way less likely to bring over old-world hatreds and religious and sexual bigotry with them. No one can challenge that statement, btw, not with any truth or logic.

Verse 5:32: For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah’s sovereignty), but afterwards lo! Many of them become prodigals of the earth.” I already know the argument you will use against this, and I remind you again that it doesn't matter what you claim, what matters is that this instruction is interpreted by most Muslims as being a prohibition against killing and a clear condemnation of terrorist acts. Attempting to prove your meaning is the correct one seems rather silly since real Muslims reject your interpretation. Except for ISIS and other extremists, of course.

We can disagree on Iraq, but that just underlines my perspective on U.S. foreign policy in general. U.S. foreign policy is scrutinized and criticized far more than other nations' policies simply because of scope and scale, or the practical matter of their relevance and impact on the world stage. U.S. foreign policy is ultimately about U.S. interests, even when acting in concert with allies, and this is almost always a moving target.

Why would he be worried about that? I understand that there are very few extremists in the religion, Does that fear make him an Islamophobe?

It's a great list of values, but I don't see these things in "mainstream" Islam. That is not to say that some individual Muslims do nto believe these things, but I don't believe it is as mainstream as you think. For instance, I've read articles about the multiple wives being brought here and living off of welfare. And when I worked for the lawyer, one of our clients was a low-income housing company for whom we would try to re-coup refusals to pay rent, and the largest portion of these were Muslims, who basically laughed in our faces, knowing they could not be removed easily from a property, especially when they had 8 kids and it was the middle of January. So, no....I don't believe "taking care of one's family" is a mainstream islamic belief. this is in Canada. "Protect human life" - Yeah, no...I watched as an on-line group of Muslims tore an Israeli girl to shreds - yes, they absoutely DO think Jews are not human. And not one of the 30 or so who piled on her, describing to her how she should die in the most revolting of terms, stopped their fellow Muslims from the attack. I saw exactly what they think of Jews and Westerners. This is in Canada. As far as the Eid sacrifices - I understand Paris had asked last year for Muslims to not slaughter animals in tthe streets, not sure how that went over. While Muslims insist animals are slaughtered humanely, there have been many, many reports that show otherwise. Yes, we also slaughter animals for food and yes, there are sometimes slaughterhouses with violations. I think there's a difference between factory farming and ritualistic, mass slaughter of animals in the streets in the name of a religion - it is not a necessary thing. The sole basis of Islam is to get non-Muslims to submit to Muslim preferences - workplace and schools have to set aside time and rooms for a multitude of daily prayers, sexually segregating public places, burkas and niqabs, slaughtering animals in the streets, allowing multiple wives to collect welfare, turning aside and saying nothing when we see women being forced to wear burkas and not leave the house - we've accomodated it all, have we not? What is the benefit to our society in accomodating these things? And where does it end? What is the fascination with Canada becoming like a ME country? Why do we have to adopt Muslim ways? Some here feel that we should accomodate everything Islam and tolerate/live with/shut up about anything we don't agree with.

Fascinating. Well, the US has been in Afghanistan for fifteen or sixteen years now. When do you suppose they might get around to exploiting this wealth?

I predict that you'll deny these things, as if they could not exist within Islam or be followed by even a single Muslim. Charity is a requirement, and for every Muslim I know, is applicable to Muslim and non-Muslim alike. Loaning/borrowing money is highly frowned upon, and charging interest even more so. Taking care of one's family so the State doesn't have to, nor do they need to live on the street or in poverty. For many (not me, specifically) the focus on family life as being the basis of society and most important element in any individual's life. To protect human life, even the life of an enemy. To show mercy to animals. To allow others freedom to worship God in their own way. Let me see if I can predict your arguments against the above: Charity is only a requirement for other Muslims (I'm sure you'll quote something somewhere to "prove" this, just as I could have quoted something to "prove" otherwise) Loaning/borrowing money happens all the time in Muslim-majority countries (I'm sure it does, but that's not what Islam teaches) Taking care of one's family (probably something about beating wives or practicing FGM to refute this, as if making a law, even a religious law, guarantees that everyone will follow it). Family first as basis of society (same argument as above) Show mercy to animals (slaughter of cattle for Eid, which ignores every culture's dissonance between what they believe and what they actually practice) To allow others freedom to worship (ISIS, which is an organization rejected by Muslims worldwide). So, GO! (Qualifying Statement: There are many bad things taught within Islam. Recognizing the good does not mean the bad is invisible to me.)

I think banning people from the country based on their dress is a troll topic. I would like to ask any tolerant freedom loving person how they can defend the religious practice of covering their face because it may draw lust in men? And how that can be seen as something we want to welcome in this country?

Calling Member Kettle black is against forum rules Pot!

There is not a single surprised person on the planet. http://m.torontosun.com/2017/06/12/refugee-background-checks-may-have-been-flawed-memo

Look who's talking. All we need is mention Trump, and you get all excited like as if armageddon is on your doorstep!

Gulf of Tonkin (there were two incidents reported) wasn't the casus belli for the War in Indochina Pt II. It had already been going on since 1959. GoT allowed the US to respond to NVA aggression by bombing the North. A double edge sword as it meant coming in direct conflict with Soviet troops who helped man North Viet-Nam's SAM sites and fly MiGs. The event that opened the door to US and other SEATO nations to "come on down" was the NVA's attack on Bien Hoa Airbase in 1964. The US had transferred a wing of B-57 bombers there to act as a deterrent...and as bait...to NVA/PLF forces in the region. The Communists attacked blowing-up numerous B-57s and killing/wounding US/ARVN troops in the process...taking the bait. Enter the USMC and friends (Australians, Thais, South Koreans, etc)....to protect the air bases and conduct Search and Destroy operations...before S&D got its TV-News connotations. It just kept growing from there.

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Well, thank you. I like America and the American people. It is the far left liberal American zionist SJW ilk that I do not like.They remind me so much of you, liberal loser.

I hope that Trump deports all the illegals that are in America quickly. And I hope that Trump catches them before some of them make their way too sucker Canada. And I have to wonder as to how many of those criminal illegals entering Canada belong to the MS13 gang of thugs and murderers along with muslim radical terrorists. Trudeau is a disaster for Canada and if this guy is allowed to continue on with his open door border policy Canada as we know it today will be doomed. BC is out west, and so who cares what goes on out west. Canadians are handing those illegal criminals the rope that they will use to hang us with one day. And no one appears to care.

Update: No impeachment for Trump today. I am getting so tired of waiting for that day to happen.

The debate about the science involved in creation appears to be complex and who is to know. I would investigate the inspiration and truth of the Bible (KJV 1611). That should be a higher priority. It is interesting of course to read the articles about creation but it might not resolve the question one way or another in the end in one's mind. The truth of scripture is of extreme importance because it determines one's future for eternity. That puts things in perspective.

No islam created terrorists......the west just makes the arrangements for them to meet allah.....and collect some virgins which they ran out of back in the 1500's.....

Some need to understand that the world is a terribly violent place, and no one out there is going to give you hugs. Quite the contrary. The barbarians are always at the door, and we need to use force beat them back. Because that is the only message they can understand. They're only crying now because they can't commit their jihad.

You are particularly oblivious if you think I'm 'you people on the left'.

Yep, I'd be lighting my stogey with $100 bills, while watching them move you into the poor house.

I am a conservative but am not a believer in The Bible. I believe in free speech and freedom to worship whatever God you wish. That is not my business. I want my kids happy. If they are gay that is up to them. Not my life it is theirs. My point is why some cultures are given special treatment and why is the Government meddling in affairs that should not and does not concern them

Harvard did a study of media bias and Donald Trump recently, and what they found was Fox giving the most balanced commentary at 52/48% negative coverage. All other networks were into the 90% negative range. I guess if think anything less that 90% negative is too forgiving, then you might see an issue with the coverage.

In Canada one has to specifically subscribe to Fox News. Is that how you know so much about them or are you just repeating the nonsense from the left? Because, as is usual with such characterizations, you've offered no evidence or proof, just slanted views. Did you know that this week CNN reported that Comey was going to state that he never assured Trump that he was not under investigation. That was flat out wrong, or fake news. In Comey's opening statement in the proceedings, he stated that on 3 separate occasions he told Trump he was not under investigation. So what, right, it's only Trump. Facts only matter under certain conditions I guess. You mention the crazies that follow Fox, but what about the left's moon bats that hate Fox and watch your MSNBC or other leftwing media. I give you all of the rioting looters that trashed and destroyed, set fires and flipped vehicles, etc. after the Trump election. I'm sure they all watch Fox, (not!) as does Black lIves matter, Code Pink, and most of the Jew haters and black supremacists out there. How about the idiot fools at any major university that riot and trash things whenever someone is scheduled to speak whom they don't like, I'm sure they all watch Fox too. There is no point in discussing certain topics with you, you appear to be unable to set aside your ideology and think objectively about some issues.