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Did you saw all those "Dutch" citizens rioting in Rotterdam waving Turkish flags and shouting Alluha Akbar. Every one of them should be stripped of their dutch citizenship and deported to Turkey. We grant citizenship far, far too easily in the West, to people who don't deserve it and don't respect it.

I think this reinforces the notion that the Liberals believe Canadian citizenship is a right,not a privilege.Apparently no obligations come with Canadian citizenship either.

Islam like to take credit for pretty much everything. Including Western Civilization. It's the Borg-like nature of the beast. Assimilation of the conquered folk's culture/knowledge = Islamic accomplishment!

Then why hasn't he presented any? He shot off his mouth on a bunch of early AM tweets with nothing to back them up yet he thinks that justifies Congress going on a fishing expedition with absolutely no evidence. You Trumpets will swallow any bit of BS that comes out of his mouth without fact checking one iota of it.

Conservative candidate Steven Blaney said: Do you think a terrorist who swears an Oath of Citizenship and then murders innocent people should be allowed to retain his Canadian citizenship? Well, Liberal Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen thinks so. Indeed, Justin Trudeau and his Liberals want to return Canadian citizenship to Zakaria Amara, a convicted terrorist. I disagree with him. I strongly believe citizenship revocation has to be an option for convicted terrorists holding dual citizenship who have come to our country to kill Canadians. That is why in 2015, our Conservative government passed bill C-24 which allows for the revocation of citizenship for those immigrant citizens who have committed acts of terrorism. Justin Trudeau and his liberals are about to change that. The first duty of any government is to keep its citizens safe, not to seek fame and be adored. --Steven Blaney, MP What do you think?

Well, it's really getting beyond ridiculous when it comes to Trump and his ban against certain Arab countries. Now The Girl Guides of Canada have decided that they will not travel to the USA anymore or take any flights that have connections out of the USA because of it's ban. It seems to be endless with these people. So, let's just deprive the girls of a chance to go to say Disney as a group because some politically correct liberal decides that it would not be appropriate to do so. Why do these fools concern themselves so much with what America does? I just don't know where to go with this nonsense anymore, this constant bashing of America, and what they do as far as politics goes. Personally, I wish that America would retaliate and say no Girl Guides of Canada will be allowed in the States. Give them something to really whine about. We are the best of good neighbors, and yet we get people like this who want to create a friend into an enemy. Some Canadians are really starting to get me mad. Source: Huffington Post.

Human history is all about wars and killing. Including jewish terrorism as well as every other race and religion..

Watch the TV news tonight or tomorrow for the results of the election in the Netherlands. Geert Wilders is the leader of the Freedom Party and is expected to make political gains today in the election.

Gas chambers? Don't be silly. What should be done is ship them back from whence they came. They are criminals for crossing the Canadian border illegally. Is this what you want as new citizen's is people breaking the laws of Canada? These people can go the proper route and walk up to a border crossing and shout refugee the proper way but instead chose to break the law and enter Canada illegally. If these same refugees tried to cross into Mexico they would be arrested and thrown in jail. Or maybe lucky enough to get shipped out of the country. We are possibly seeing just the beginning of what might happen this summer as the weather warms up. And thanks to Trudeau he has encouraged it. Way the go Mr. PM you really are setting Canadians up for a bunch of criminals to enter Canada. Just where does your loyalties lie anyway? To Canada or the rest of the world? Personally, I think that I am pretty sure as to where your loyalties are and who they are too. It is beginning to look like Canadians will not be allowed in on the game plan. Contempt is what I call it.

I haven't made Trump the victim, I've stated that the Girl Guide media rep is taking a political stance - which she clearly is. Look at her history and her experience, she's a professional and knows exactly what angle she's taking. Do you disagree that making a press statement against Trump is a political statement. Seriously dude, your posts are looking more like Bubbers and Impact's every day - pull yourself together, you're a mod, not a troll.

No, taxme just watches as closely as possible as to what goes on in Europe, and from the gloom and doom stories I have read and heard about from Europeans being a part of the EU. Apparently many citizen;s from many European countries want to be able to govern their own affairs but being a part of the EU they are not allowed too. Many Europeans are getting sick and tired of all those refugees entering their countries, and want it stopped. The EU will not listen, and from what I have read the EU wants to flood Europe with another 6 million more refugees. We are seeing an attempt by the globalist elite to try and destroy Europe and it's culture and way of life. What is good for Europeans is to try and save themselves from being replaced by others who will force their ways and cultures and values on them. I certainly would not like to see the day when maybe Europe becomes a Muslim country, do you? Would you want to see Muslims take over Canada? Well?

You have missed the point...ok, you've won. If that makes you happy....

That's what Trump said as opposed to something else. The video confirms this.

Non-proselytizing. You can't just decide to be a Jew. Muslim...different story.

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you....they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." ---President Trump

Good FKN grief! See everybody - see how easy it is sell the victim angle - to seemingly reasonably intelligent people.

Scotland and NI can always then try to separate from the UK, and then go stay with the EU if they do succeed in separating. But for now they just will have to live with the results. Awww.

Absolutely, but the point of travel is not only about places it is about people as well.

Saudi Arabia is nice, I hear.

They should lie about their reasons for cancelling Stateside travel, why? Is it so Trump supporters don't have to know how their exclusionary policies affect real people?

How so?

Everybody wants to be a victim!

Bukhari and Muslim, of course. But you knew that... Eh?

Again: you're free to belittle the importance of the Hadiths in Islam. It won't change their actual importance which is considerable...especially the first two volumes. But, I understand why you want to do this...so no worries. Islam is Peace, after-all.

The original point remains, Muslims have a belief system that I dislike, therefore I am Anti-Islamic. I don't fear them and I can't in good conscience justify what they do - as people like you and Dialamah seem able to. Do, I believe that our system is better, do I believe that our justice is better, our tolerance, our culture, our politics? Absolutely! Am I personally better that the vast majority of Muslims based on my belief system versus theirs? Again, absolutely!

...a lot.

The Hadiths, however, do mention stoning...

Couldn't the kingdom at least show "stand-in" girl council members. You know, the way some muslim countries have "stand-in" child brides.

Except that like most everything else you post there's no truth to it. I'm a centrist. Your politics, on the other hand are clearly way out there on the fringes of the Left.

Most of the immigrants who came here weren't farmers and got nothing. There was no welfare, no health care and no job or skills training. Why is it you people on the far left can't even admit the most obvious, simple truths?

Yes, they can. To their economic peril, of course. Not to mention the damage to their moral reputation. But do we really believe that a truly dedicated terrorist cannot get into the country if he really wanted to... even with this ban... ?

That's a lot of stories and of course no cites. Interesting when Altai needs to she will quote the Koran and now when she does not want to address the very quotes she cites, she makes stories up to avoid the. This is why I referred to the entire premises of the thread being delusional. It first presents itself with the nonsensical illogical assertion that we are all ruled by Sharia law with not one iota of evidence to show that. Now we have the thread originator who has posed herself as an authority on Sharia law and Islam now avoiding the very Koran she wants to quote when asked questions about those quotes and avoids the questions and quotes entirely bypresenting uncited stories of what she alleged happened thousands of years ago. That is delusional. Cherry picking Altai calls it. If you point out in the Koran the comments that are clearly discriminatory you are told by Altai its cherry picking. If she on the other hand only chooses to discuss certain passages of the Koran and not others, its not cherry picking. Does that sound logical? Now has anyone found one sentence in what Altai said that is logical? Please show me one sentence. At this point she has presented a series fragmented subjective assertions as to what she think Muhmamed really meant. She fails to acknowledge the actual practice of sharia law in any nation. She remains in a subjective world where she tries to tell people what they can discuss and if the does not like their response call them liars and bans them. I'd say that latter exercise of being unable to debate in my opinion shows a self indulgent spoiled brat mentality where all are expected to live one standard but Altai another. She evidence again and again she is unable to entertain and acknowledge any opinion other than her own and calls people she disagrees with on this forum a liar which is insulting and will think nothing of complaining she is being insulted because people challenge what she says and presents. She shows an inability to debate and takes any challenge to her version of Islam to be an insult that must be banned. That very exercise if banning people she disagrees with or her attempts on this thread to dictate to people what they can answer, reflects much of what people challenge in today's Islam and Sharia law practiced across the world. She mimics the clerics she repeats and how they will censure people for questioning the. She provides ts a vivid example of the psyche of certain disciples of Islam. They evidence that they can't engage in critical reasoning or analysis and in fact panic and shut it out if it comes back in the form of a response. The very idea the rigid formula she presents could be subject to a different interpretation than her own causes her to panic and chop off the head symbolically of her perceived challenger by banning them. Now I presented an argument that said given the avatar presented by this person called Altai choosing to pose as a modern young Muslim woman dressed in a manner most Muslim countries do not permit because of Sharia law and would in fact lash a Muslim woman for, is contradictory. Certainly the avatar shows a young woman uncovered taking a picture of herself. That would be considered in the very Sharia laws she quotes as punishable by lashing for being vane. Altai did not respond to that.. I have no intent to insult "her" personna stating that, I have stated however it is hard to reconcile and conceive that someone claiming and posing to be a young Turkish woman dressed as she is for all to see and purposely so by using her Avatar can reconcile that message with what else she now presents. I have argued the presentation of Islam she presents is absolutely inconsistent with the physical image she portrays. I have the right to question tat and so whether the device of posing as an attractive young woman and then presenting a series of Muslim diatribes designed at preaching, is not an attempt at recruitment? If her physical image is not relevant than why is it on the avatar? Thus I engage in both legitimate in satirical references to her alleged image not being consistent with the Islam she preaches. Thatw oudl be no different then me posing in my g string in an avatar and presenting passages from the Talmid and Old Testament about sexual behaviour. Sorry but something does not add up. So I ask is this an attempt at baiting young men to bite onto Islam. I have the right to ask that just as someone would have the right to ask that if I present a lovely young Jewess in an avatar or a beautiful young woman in an avatar presenting passages from ANY religion containing archaic sxist references to women. Something does not add up and I am asking whyt? Now if I am asked as are all readers to believe she is a young Turkish woman who chooses to be modern in appearance and pose as she does for pictures she sends tot he public, she should be more than able to explain how she reconciles that appearance with her stated beliefs on this forum and the sexist hateful comments in Sharia law she now refuses to acknowledge. That's not calling her a liar. Its not insulting her. Its a legitimate question. Its one thing to preach but if in the next breath your very behaviour contradicts what you preach, you bet people have the right to question that especially on a debate forum. Inventing stories with no citations to deflect from sexist passages in the Koran does not make those passages suddenly have no meaning but it does manifest the person making up those stories does not know how to reconcile what she cited with the personna she presents in the avatar. I again state, this entire thread is an act of self-indulgence bysomeone who not just presents a picture of the world she wants others to live in but demands we give full obedience to it or be banned.. If my daughter engaged in debate with me like that I would say, grow up, the world is not what you want it to be. You bet I would have to be harsh if I thought she was compromising her safety with her beliefs. I think most mothers and fathers on this forum know exactly what I am saying. You learn tat as young woman grow they must create and live in their own world but you never abandon your role of protector from danger and if that means disagreeing with them because yout hink they are in danger youd on't compromise on that. I was not put on this planet to be someone my daughters HAVE to love, like or agree with. I was put on the planet to assure they remain safe. When someone spews passages that I believe and have argued show no insight as to how it effects her own body and physical safety its a sad thing to see indeed. I look at it no differently than a parent whose child now engages in an abusive relationship. There's nothing to indulge here in the words presented. Your daughter comes to you singing the praises of her boyfriend who beats her you have choices. You can indulge her and try reason with her to leave. Good luck with that. Its a waste of time. I believe there's too many people indulging self destructive people. Thanks I find this latest exercise in indulging self denial and fantasy pointless. Its a broken record and at this point I believe myself its a pitch for Muslim extremism and the bait I think is evident.

Antisemitism is a word coined by Wilhelm Marr in the 19th century. It was done to give a feeling of scientific legitimacy to Jew-hatred. Not Arabs...who weren't an issue in 1870s Germany. This is the book... http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Marr-Text-English.pdf

And "stories" don't change all the offensive parts about women in the Quran or Sharia law. Altai cannot or refuses to address the points that Dialamah brought up.

Saudi Arabia launches it's first 'Girl's Council' Its members are all bearded men...lol.

Freedom from religion, as well. So no choppin' heads just because your cult's 'holy book' says it's okay to murder the unbelievers. Points of interest... Anti derives from the Greek/Berber myth of Antaeus: The Opponent...a demigod who was unbeatable in wrestling as long as as he remained in contact with Mother Earth. Hercules eventually beat him via a crushing bear hug...lifting Antaeus's feet from the ground. Xeno...another Ancient Greek word, means Stranger. It's connection to to our lovely word xenophobia might seem rather direct (stranger danger!)...but it is likely filtered through the writings of Xenophon (the original stranger in a strange land...so to speak) who tended to view non-Greeks with extreme distrust...for obvious reasons if you know Ancient Greek history re: the Persian Empire. This is quite apparent in his writings like Anabasis (March of the Ten Thousand) where he and a Greek mercenary army were betrayed by their Persian employers and trapped behind enemy lines...not a lot of friendly faces. They hacked their way out...generally. Phobia: More Greek...Phobos (Fear), one of two twin sons of Ares and Aphrodite (Deimos the other: Terror...heh). They'd ride into battle next to dear ol' Dad and his two goddess sisters: Enyo and Eris...strife and discord...something like that. The family that fights together...stays together?

Now I have asked Altai to reconcile how a woman and sharia law co-exist and how she reconciles her alleged female identity with it. She refuses to respond. So I directly question again how she or any other woman especially one dressed in a way ISIS, Saudi Arabia, Iran would consider provocative and illegal reconciles this. I find it inconceivable any modern woman would pose as she allegedly does on her avatar but endorses verbatum the Koran evidencing she quotes it but has no clue how its actually applied in daily life. Now keep in mind this is someone who claims she supports Erdogan of Turkey. Let's see what he says about women: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/24/turkeys-president-recep-tayyip-erdogan-women-not-equal-men Here is just a snippet: " He went on to say that women and men could not be treated equally “because it goes against the laws of nature”. “Their characters, habits and physiques are different … You cannot place a mother breastfeeding her baby on an equal footing with men. “You cannot make women work in the same jobs as men do, as in communist regimes. You cannot give them a shovel and tell them to do their work. This is against their delicate nature.” Uh yah. He clearly has no clue who Serena Williams is. Man I would love to put Erdogan in a room with Serena or my favourite Michelle Rodriquez for 5 minutes and have him say that,

I'm pretty sure if Kevin O'Leary wasn't so defiantly liberal on all social issues, including immigration, he would sweep the vote, and then sweep Trudeau out of office.

First of all you have to teach your kids how to use their thinking power. If you prevent them to question events, they will be like zombies. If you prevent a young person who questions how TTowers were collapsed, they will be idiots in the future. I have invented my own "effective thinking method" and in the future I will teach it to all kids in the World. Current corrupt system in the World gives nothing to kids. Kids are just adapted to study at some schools and having a good job and a plump pension. Noone is interested with their thinking power.

Some people posting here do not understand the difference between Islamophobia and anti-Semitism and are just confusing the meaning. Anti mean against. Therefore the word anti-semitism means against Jews. Phobia means a fear of. The word Islamophobia means a fear of Islam. So anti-semitism is against a people; Islamophobia is a fear of a religion. It is not an opposition to a people. Some try to equate it with anti-semitism but this is not correct. There is a difference between opposing a race or group of people and opposing a religion or ideology because you disagree with it's teachings. Anti-semitism has existed in Europe for about 2000 years. There is a book called "God's First Love" by Friedrich Heer (Christians and Jews over two thousand years) This is an extremely detailed book of what has been happening in Europe during the past 2000 years culminating in the Haulocaust.

Yeah...we'll get right on that...because Canada's health care system is the best in the world. President Trump can't do any worse than President Obama when it comes to "medical experiments".

The said travel ban has nothing to do with terrorism IMHO...

Read the article posted first then let's discuss.

Yeah, you made an assertion so it IS up to you to prove it. I believe that's in the rules of this forum, somewhere. Did you not read them?

In before Diahlmah arrives to compare this with some Christian cult like the Davidians.

What are the chances of having your child abducted? Pretty minuscule actually. So again, using Dialamah's risk chart, it's pretty irrational to be worried about a baby left alone in a car parking lot.

Let's see...the Democrats when not frothing at the mouth are jumping up-and-down stamping their feet in a child-like rage. I bet if baby got its bottle there'd be quiet...

And it's still a democracy, and it still has human rights. But it is not a human right to be allowed to go and live in the US, nor even enter it. A lot of Muslim countries, BTW, bar entry to all Israelis. Sixteen, to be exact. Among them, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan and Yemen. Oh my!

Immigration is meant to serve Canada not the other way round. I can see some people being admitted to Canada if they can prove that they will be persecuted in their home countries but opening the gate will be wrong. We must not allow certain culture or cultures dominate this country by more than a few percentage point as otherwise our democratic free way of life may be badly disturbed by a mass flow (considering that most of those persecuted are from certain region).

I hope you're not saying that should be allowed in a Western Nation. That's, pretty clearly, pedophilia. But who are we to judge right?