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Agreed...if it was a logical argument, Canada would have been attacked many times by now because "we deserve it", "had it coming", and "should have known better". Certainly more than Sweden.

And a ban on blazing new pipelines through a 1000 fish-bearing rivers...especially under Ottawa's mismanagement. Its been proven over and over again that mega-projects of this scope are incapable of coming anywhere near salmon habitat without wrecking it. Again...especially when it's done with a big government's blessing and oversight. Maybe if the pipeline boosters and their ilk could do something about the incompetence and mismanagement of official responsibilities in this god-forsaken country they wouldn't have such an uphill battle. Put a serious enough dent in the government's deplorable regulatory incompetence and I'd be quite open to the idea of even using nuclear power. Just for the record, I burn around 300 litres of fuel everyday at work. I'm also subject to mandatory monitoring for compliance, sometimes with cameras, black-box data/GPS recorders and even human observers (on my dime) to protect Canadian's interest in conserving a valuable public (albeit privatized) resource...like fish. The real trouble with boosters of large-scale industrial exploitation of natural resources is that they're also the biggest sycophants to power and wealth on the planet and will not lift a finger to truly promote real transparency and accountability at the top of the power/wealth pyramid. They never have and will only move in that direction kicking and screaming every inch of the way. Why exactly is that anyway? What the Hell's in it for them?

Liberal's making friends every where they go.....This does not surprise me , Canada can not even look after it's own soldiers.....but to take this stand on the inter national stage is stupid for the lack of a better word. I mean here was an opportunity to show some compassion, to the world for mere crumbs to our full annual Budget....and yet the liberals who have spent 30 bil in a blink of an eye has said NO to the small compensation of the gurkha guards at our own embassy....I wonder who is guarding the gates now... more an likely the locals, as they would be the cheapest bidder.....Wonder i secure the embassy is now.... http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kabul-canada-gurkhas-1.4019840

I'll take your three expert's opinions that Iran isn't building nuclear weapons (et al) the respect they deserve. I wonder how many experts say the exact opposite of these three? More than a few...starting with Netanyahu...eh? It's a fallacy known as: the Law of Small Numbers that you're trying to foist upon me, here. Anyways...Sweden... I always admired the Cold War era S-Tank...turret-less...low...and designed specifically to fight Soviet tanks along forested roads. Sweden is full of those. I think they use a more Leopard II-ish type rig, now.

You didn't try to understand what I said at all. Carbon taxes themselves obviously will not stop climate change. Only new technology will. What carbon taxes CAN do is create an incentive in the market place to invest in those technologies. And yes... The break-throughs required to enter the next energy age COULD come from little old Canada. Again, you don't seem to understand the point of the taxes or what they are meant to do. They aren't MEANT to directly reduce our emissions. They are meant to encourage investment in technology.

I'm in a townhouse, and natural gas comes in but I don't think running it to the hot water closet is going to be an option. Last time I checked a few years ago, on-demand electric for the whole house needed a 220 outlet, and I don't know if that's available in the hot water closet. I thought maybe a smaller hot water tank, with a point of use in the kitchen might be an option that would save electricity/money.

You decide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Gurkha_Rifles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Nuclear_Research_Center Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....right?

Say again? It's those theoretical unprovoked attacks known as a first strike that make atomic weapons such a specter of fiery doom. Israel is extremely vulnerable to a first strike due to its size. Iran has even mentioned it and claimed they could take any surviving retaliation...scary. An EMP device 'accidentally' exploding in LEO as it passes over Israel is also a growing threat...not only from Iran. They swore it was for scientific purposes...

Did you watch the video? I think that as resources that contribute to climate change become more expensive, people will *choose* different solutions. Suggesting I want people to 'abandon' their homes is ridiculous, but perhaps if they decide to renovate, they would make more 'green' choices. I need to replace my hot water tank over the next year; I'd like to install an on-demand system, if possible, instead of heating and keeping hot 30 or 40 gals of water all the time, only heat the water I'm using 'right now'. Did you watch the video? What did you think? Did it help you understand how carbon pricing can make a difference and the different ways it can be implemented? I found it quite interesting; it was part of a 'recommended' series from work. I work with a BC Ministry which has to take the effects of climate change into account in their future planning.

Totally untrue. People pay carbon taxes related to their generation of C02. If you ride public transit then you pay carbon taxes in your fare equal to you contribution to the C02 produced by the transit provider. The fact that they generate far less C02 per rider mile than your SUV is the whole point. If you live in an apartment building heated by natural gas then the carbon tax will be in the natural gas used. Yes, I think there should be some tax on electricity even if it is hydro generated as in BC because there is still a C02 footprint in building those generating stations, etc - over time that will transitioned in as new facilities are added; note that things like gas used by the utility trucks does get added to the electricity so operating costs are included. Wood is a renewable resource, so it is not unlocking carbon sequestered hundreds of millions of years ago.

Yes, and man has upset that equilibrium. and many more don't. The point is those that actually study the matter, except for a few extremist views, do support the theories. Yes, perhaps some plant biologist that never lifts her eye from the microscope starring at triticale is unable to see the larger picture but that doesn't lend much credibility.

No, I am providing an opinion which is what you were doing. Now do you want to get into details why? The world is slowing moving to a non carbon based energy paradigm. That is a given, for many reasons. Canada needs to be a leader or else we are giving away our future for the sake of the profit of a few foreign owned oil companies. That doesn't mean we stop oil today, but we create a roadmap to get us away from our dependence on it. Carbon taxes will incite the private enterprise to make the change, that will be far cheaper than the government paying the cost. Carbon taxes will not, repeat not increase the cost of living; government can reduce taxes in other areas to offset any carbon taxes. They will provide the incentive for using different, more efficient and less polluting sources of energy.

According to the media the company has made payments. It is not a problem with Capitalism, this is a third world company , that pays out 3 rd world compensation, with that said what harm would it of created if Canada had said we will match NAPAL's contribution, it would have been a great opportunity for Canada to show how generous it is, after all it was Canadians diplomates that these Gurka were protecting...I mean 23,000 us dollars is spent every min by our government and a lot of it on useless shit.....here we would have gotten back so much more for our investment....

And then, to come is family reunification...mom, dad, grandma, grandpa etc...

Pretty sure I can buy and sell you, boy. You isolationists are about as sane and sensible in your beliefs as the flat earth crowd. At a time when the likes of Iran and North Korea is improving its missiles distances there is no way to remain aloof from what is going on in the world. That, of course, is on top of any moral problems we might have with, say, standing back and letting a crazy lunatic like Kim John Un invade South Korea and slaughter millions, or happily playing video games, secure in our knowledge that while the Arabs are butchering millions of Jews in Israel it ain't our problem.

Whether it's a man-made phenomenon or a natural cycle it is still going to affect humans, so mitigation seems like a good idea to me. From BC Gov Website At some point in the past, the BC Gov also wrote this: However, it's not all bad. Climate change is already affecting fish, farmers and ranchers in BC, who are working on finding ways to mitigate those effects: Climate change effects on animal behavior have been noted since 2008, including this one: Regardless of whether you believe that climate change and global warming is natural or man-made, the fact is we are going to be affected; no doubt, whether the change is ultimately good or bad only history will tell - but what's coming is a sea change for humans. Our generation is just starting to feel the effects, but the ones after us are going to be getting the full brunt of it. Hiding your head in the sand and yelling "It's a leftist plot" is just dumb.

Ottawa hospital at 120% capacity. "Let's bring in more sick Syrians!" Trudeau says gleefully.

Poacher enter the Paris Thoiry Zoo and shoot a four year old rhino named Vince. They then chopped-off his horn with a chainsaw. Nobody saw a f----- thing... #HumansSuckAndNeedToGo

Dirty pool was also detected in the riding of Markham-Thornhill. When confronted, here is what Trudeau said. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tamil-canadians-shut-out-of-liberal-nomination-vote-in-toronto-area-riding/article34181632/ Pants on fire....

Average surface temperature on Pluto is 44 Kelvin

That's pretty sexist, and we already have enough sex segregation as it is.

The Quran is hate speech? Do tell....

There are already Muslim Imams that are preaching hate in Canada. Kill all the filthy Jews one by one....etc. Deny it all you wish.

Lots of good comments. The U.S. always has been a tough negotiator on things like the lumber agreements. Canada and/or the U.S. have gone to the arbitrator on the lumber agreements. So I don't expect anything to change on that. I don't think we will see any major changes to NAFTA because it is a good deal for both countries as it is. There may be some slight tinkering. Canada has top negotiators ready. We have years of experience at it. Shouldn't be any big problems. I don't think Pence or any top officials will be involved themselves. They probably don't know much about it. It will be done by specialists in negotiating NAFTA.

Saudi financially backs ISIS and Al Qaeda. If this was about American civilian security and terrorism, Saudi Arabia should be first on the list.

General dre says "We do nothing until after they're bombing our cities! Then we will consider what to do!" Wait... didn't they bomb a US city, and isn't that why we went into Afghanistan? Oh, wait, General dre doesn't want any defensive alliances.

So why does the west and the EU cozy up to the Saudis? Even if you go with the fact that 9/11 was masterminded, but not really by Bin Laden but via connections from Saudi Arabia. Most of those hijackers were in fact Saudi nationals, but yet every other nation in the Middle East is paying for it by being destroyed.

What about the many citizens of Iran in Canada, Europe and elsewhere that travel frequently to the US? There are many people in technical and management positions across many industries that travel to the US for training, sales activities, conferences, joint projects, etc. This travel ban is dumb a$$ stupid.

Victory: DogOnPorch Islam is a violent religion that preaches genocide of the kafir. You do your best to deflect from this and put the blame on others...but it's just not working like it did a few years back.

Again: you're free to pretend that I wrote the Quran and am responsible for Islam's genocidal attitude towards the kafir. I expect nothing less of a defender of Islam.

Quran 5:33-34 continues from the "peaceful" 5:32... Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption [fasad] is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment, Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. ...so at least if you have a sudden revelation and join the cult, Allah will listen.

Actually a retelling of Gilgamesh's tale re: rafting down the Tigris with the animals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth

Omar...one of Mohammad's Companions...very much a human. His claim was made after conquering Jerusalem in the Siege of 637 AD. Thus: Jerusalem = Third Most Holy Place In Islam Mohammad never set foot in Jerusalem...unless you believe Omar and that winged-beasts exist outside dreams.

The Quran 5:32 is often cited as the peaceful...non-compulsive...version of Islam's attitude towards all humanity. Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [Fasad done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. So: murder is okay as long as it is done 'to save a soul' or to prevent/punish mischief (Fasad) upon the land. What is Fasad??: one might ask... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasad

Probably because there isn't any chance of Sharia law in Canada; it's just a claim that the extreme right-wing is using to scare people into signing bogus petitions.

Our political divisions of progressivism and conservatism originated in the monkeys we evolved from. Brave little progressive monkeys ventured down to the ground first while the scared little conservatives in the treetops screeched and defecated in fear. That's probably what drove the progressives out in the first place. The French merely described the way power and privilege is divided in a society. It doesn't surprise me in the least that conservatives like to associate and ingratiate themselves within the same circle of sycophancy that power and wealth revolve around. Left and right has nothing to do with up and down as evidenced by the crap that keeps raining down from above.

You're free to support Islam in its drive for supremacy over the kufar.

Don't worry... this was a small spill. Otherwise, bad things might have happened!

This coming from a climate change denier is a bit rich...

Don't worry... it was a small spill and will all be cleaned up. The Premier is acting tough... http://business.financialpost.com/news/energy/saskatchewan-premier-brad-wall-not-satisfied-with-husky-response-to-oil-spill-after-14-hour-delay-revealed?__lsa=a3fb-e24a Mayor of Prince Albert doesn't believe Husky's timeline. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/prince-albert-husky-oil-spill-response-north-saskatchewan-river-1.3697076 But don't worry everyone... this was just a tiny oil spill!!

What really sounds funny is listening to people like you pipe up for fish on behalf of oil companies. I'm a fisherman so trust me the death of a fish is really not the end of the world for me. Putting the NEB in charge of the 1000 fish bearing watersheds between Alberta and it's saltwater port on the other hand is. Now go get lost.

Oily birds.... http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/three-oiled-birds-pulled-from-pipeline-spill-site 2 days worth of clean water for the city... Then who knows.... Officials have no idea how much oil couldn't be cleaned up... Husky can't explain why the response took so long. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/husky-shuts-pipeline-indefinitely-after-saskatchewan-oil-spill/article31114030/ And this is a tiny spill.... But don't worry.... pipelines are safe.

Do something about these first then we'll talk about oil. That will be even more impossible without a mean to monitor the monitors. Tell you what, you get the NEB to prove its better at protecting fish habitat by getting them to do something about the sewage and farm waste. Don't forget mining waste, logging and urban development. Lord knows we've tried to get Ottawa to do its job better maybe Alberta can do better

Who speaks for the fish plus everyone/thing who depend on them for their livelihood Tim? What do you figure we should tell them?

BC's social responsibility to protect its environment trumps it's civil obligation to ensure higher profits for Alberta. Full stop.

Until such time as I see you insisting that oil companies be subjected to the degree of monitoring and preconditions that fishermen are you should take your assessment of their ethics and put them back where the sun doesn't shine.

I realize oil will flow but I'll insist on using existing corridors and resist any new ones that have to blaze their way through a 1000 fish bearing watersheds like Northern Gateway. As for oil tankers, I expect to see several hundred billion dollars placed in a spill clean-up account up front (repayable after the final shipment of Alberta's oil out of BC's ports).

They will be ignored. As the article you cited shows the consultation process is a sham - designed for the purpose of eliciting the kinds of responses far right crazies can hoot and crow over.

Wouldn't they just go back to calling it an excise tax?