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Who cares? They aren't in positions of power. You put an unhinged loonie in a position of power.

My point was not about the phrasing of your point, it was about the logic. You labeled those who didn't like Trump winning as unhinged loonies. Since Trump didn't like Obama winning, and responded just as those you are labeling, logic dictates that he is an unhinged loonie. b.t.w. I avoided the other thread as it was getting way off track but to preempt some silly dialogue about the different words used we should look at the real definitions. First coup and coup d'état mean 100% the same thing, there is no difference, one is just shorthand. Both a coup d'état and a revolution can be violent or peaceful there is no difference there either. The only difference between the two is a coup d'état implies leadership from officials (could be a different branch like legislative or judicial or yes military as was suggested) and a revolution implies leadership from the people outside of the official government.

Um, who fought against the F-35, tooth and nail... after initiating the deal in the first place? Not to mention there is no gap. The RCAF has already said as much. Just another example of dishonesty from the Liberals.

An imaginary gap caused by the Liberals, which only they and you can see.

Sometimes, politicians manage to figure out the best solution to a problem. City of Surrey is passing new bylaws for aggressive dogs but has chosen not to include a breed ban. The bylaw wants to focus on dogs that are 'at risk' before they actually bite and to assume that all dogs have the capability of acting aggressively. I especially like that a requirement for problem dogs is that their owners seek 'professional' training and that there can be a serious monetary penalty for having a dog that exhibits dangerous behavior. Dogs that are well socialized are so much less likely to become aggressive and owners need to ensure their dogs get that necessary socialization, so I applaud this move by Surrey City Council. http://www.theprovince.com/surrey+skips+breed+puts+more+teeth+updated+bylaw/12861994/story.html

Agreed...this government has done nothing so far and has communicated even less. Sunny ways !!

Turkish Airlines the World's best airways keeps being sponsor for various organization and events all over the World. Have you ever flied with TA ? if not, you are just risking your life.

Despite her insane conspiracy theories and the fact she has most of the people on here on her ignore list and she is convinced the sun revolves around Turkey she does start good conversations. I have been defending her crazies since she started and I must say she brings entertainment to this forum.

Actually there isn't much fuel savings having one engine when the F 35 uses about 2000 kg more fuel to go the same distance as the Super-hornet. There may be some savings in overhaul costs with one engine, if you can get the same TBO out of that one engine but the F 35 burns so hot I would tend to think it may be subjected to unscheduled maintenance. And of course if you do lose that one engine you lose the whole plane. From what I know from actual pilots, they like lots of engines. Especially if they are over the ocean or the freezing cold arctic. .

I'm not itching to call you anything and there are also things in every culture that I'm not keen on including my own, but I just wonder why you have such a generalized attitude toward Muslims, like they are some kind of unvarying monolithic group.

According to this more Americans would prefer to have Trudeau as leader than Trump. http://globalnews.ca/news/3231630/trudeau-over-trump-more-americans-prefer-pm-as-their-president-ipsos-poll/ It's hard to know when he is lying and when not when his story seems to flip flop almost daily. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801

No, this thread is still about Trump, and I keep hearing him being referred to as a border wall moron. Right?

Here is just a little. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/for-canada-immigration-is-a-key-to-prosperity/article14711281/ http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/andrew-coyne-increased-immigration-is-good-for-canada-and-the-reasons-arent-only-economic http://www.readersdigest.ca/features/heart/why-canada-needs-more-immigrants-now/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_immigration_to_Canada

Why does he keep making the same mistake? Why doesn't he correct himself or at least stop saying it? Why doesn't he ever correct any of his bullshit? Why does he need people like you to do it for him? Who is being manipulated here?

I'm not interested in telling you the difference between a resistance and a coup anymore because it doesn't matter because it's just a stupid comedian talking. I'm just delighting in reminding you that the standard to which you hold Sarah Silverman is higher than the standard to which you hold the president of the U.S. Her call for resistance/coup/whatever is bad; Trump's call for revolution is not to be spoken of because there are no words to defend him.

Yes, Rosie O'Donnell certainly qualifies as unhinged. I promise you I will never vote for her.

No, I'm saying you seem to be the one with a problem understanding English. I already explained about coup, go back and reread it is not that difficult. I didn't know about Whoopie Goldberg but just looked it up and she did not call for martial law. She was saying that Trump's statements on Chicago sounded like he was calling for martial law.

It was in the Impeachment thread. Someone was going on about how horrible Sarah Silverman is and how she represents everybody who ever voted for Hillary because she called for a "resistance" against Trump. Apparently this person thought "resistance' meant the same thing as "coup", and that she was calling for a coup against Trump. But even if she was, so what? She's a comedian. Then it was pointed out to the poster that Trump had called for a revolution against Obama. The poster refused to believe it until faced with irrefutable evidence. Then the poster went on a tantrum, using all sorts of coloured fonts, about how revolution doesn't really mean revolution and that they didn't want to talk about it anymore. It was hilarious. Made my day.

Why does Manitoba have to plead with the Federal gov to get help with refugees from the USA? Trudeau ought to be prepared for this, after all he issued a world-wide invitation. And yet, just having 22 refugees cause crisis? Only 22, and they call it a crisis! Wait til they come by the thousands!

Scotland. And they came here dirt poor. Worked until they were able to buy a chunk of land, where they built a barn, plowed the ground, fed themselves and others and sold the extra to pay the bills, made a lot of friends. paid a lot of taxes, and raised six kids who did pretty well. That's my story but it's certainly not a unique one. Screen immigrants, but don't ban them.

Both of which flourish thru immigration.

How do you expect the Palestinians to get their shit together when you have Israel retroactively legalizing the settlements? We've been over this again and again, even you agree the settlements are an issue, but yet, I still get push back from you regarding it. China and Russia escape my blame because I simply don't know what they did to Jews. However I am sure you'd be able to tell me all about it in great length. Actually since I don't know much about Marxist-Lenist stuff, it's really irrelevant to my stance. Actually I have no guilt. Because I was not the problem and not a perpetrator in atrocities against Jews. And you are right, this crap has been going on for centuries, something I had mentioned before, and wow, looks like you agree. And I never claimed to speak for them. I speak for myself and what I see. Screw your stupid projections.

What is with you Liberals, and your reading comprehension.....The General of the Airforce Has stated there are "NO" Capability gaps, that our F-18 fleet is capable to fly past 2025.....How does that translate into our planes are having problems with serviceability, now i know alot of things, our Airforce are magicians when it comes down to fixing planes, and keeping them flying......the only thing that could slow down the process is parts availability.....that's a funding problem....perhaps the liberals can produce serviceability stats on our F-18's....but that's just going to prove the liberals are lying again.......Seems to me everything they touch turns to shit lately..... Now in the back ground the Liberal government is changing all our numbers to all our commitments....Can they do that, They can change any number they want , or rather yet they can tell you the gullible anything they want....have you heard of Canada increasing it's commitments any where......NO.....because that would be news worthy......so they are changing internal documents only....adding to the numbers to create a scape goat, a cover story for this stunt here........They have also placed all pers involved with the purchase of these 18 F-18 super hornets with a gag order, for life,they can't talk about costing, details, even the Cons reported all purchases, and followed the rules, .....that sound like a clear and transparent thing to do..... The best choice.....How would you or the rest of the liberal Cabinet know what is the best Aircraft Available, Was there a competition "NO", Is there an experts in the liberal cabinet, "NO".....Have they used any of the info or testing results submitted by DND ..."NO"....So how does the super hornet come up the winner....Nobody knows.....everyone else is asking WTF except the liberals.....the 2 engine thing.....already been debated and debunked.....welcome to 2017 my friend.....tell me how the F-16 can patrol northern europe for 25 years now.....2 engines is another liberal myth..... SO lets run though it again , because you liberals are a little slow.......Airforce general says there is NO capability gap.....Our jets will last to 2025 and beyond.....liberals order gag order to cover up purchase of 18 CF-18 Super Hornets, they don't release any info on the project, to prevent debate......and confusion....Who is lying.....can you point them out for the rest of the forum......It's that french guy over there your honor.....that guy called trudeau...

Exactly. Anyone can make mistakes. That's why pencils have erasers...

Well, at least the public don't have to worry of selling secrets to China..Clinton or becoming a drug dealer, or fooling around with the interns.

The expressed indignation about values screening. I would never hire someone without an interview. Why would we bring over immigrants without one?

Derek you are fun. You were given a comparison of an older Gripen D to an F35 and Super H and uh know you want the latest Gripen E comparison. Now you act as if the Gripen E is untested so you don't have to comment on it and do I detect you think there is something sinister about the delay in its being tested? Uh sorry no.... http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2016-11-30/saab-postpones-gripen-e-first-flight-good-reason Yah I know how when info doesn't agree with you, poof you ignore it but try these aren't on the blog you now arbitrarily censor: https://www.aerosociety.com/news/evolution-of-the-fittest-saab-rolls-out-the-gripen-e/ http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34292:saab-successfully-completes-flight-test-with-irst-for-gripen-e&catid=35:Aerospace Interesting. The older and newer Gripens match with the F35 and Super H and even Rafale. Nothing in the Gripen E makes it different than the Gripen D it simply adds to it with speed and newer software. But hey it hasn't flown yet so let's actually ignore it while the F35 does fly with repeated faults and defects as if that makes it a better jet. Lol. Right Derek. You won't respond to the blog. Of course not, you have nothing to counter it other than to say the Gripen D which matched well is being replaced by the Gripen E which has not been tested yet. Rubbish: http://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newssaab-launches-first-gripen-e-aircraft-4896511 http://defaiya.com/news/International News/Europe/2014/04/08/saab-completes-flight-test-with-irst-for-gripen-e Someone please tell Derek that the F35 was conceived 25 phacking years ago, 25! In 25 years it still has not fixed its defects. 25 years! 25 years to develop a friggin craft with no actual definitive cost per jet even finalized while the Gripen E has in fact been tested and its complete version will be tested this March. Let's be very specific and not avoid the facts Derek: 1-its already too expensive and its price continues to soar as the delays in production continue on and on; 2-the Gripen E is most certainly a viable option; 3-South Korea,Turkey, Holland are all second guessing the F35; 4-Turkey is looking at a minimum 50 BILLION as the preliminary price quoted on purchasing and building 200 F35's and buying 100 more from the US; 5-he price of the F35 is continuing to rise as we speak-no one lue how much it will actually cost...none of us do.. 6.the pilots testing the F35 have warned its still not ready to fly: http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a22530/pentagon-tester-f-35-combat-testing-delays/ 7. the amount of defects with the F35 grows and is not diminishing: https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/222380-the-pentagons-official-f-35-bug-list-is-terrifying; and here is the most recent report on its defects: https://www.rt.com/usa/373891-f35-report-flaws-delays/ 8.do NOT assume the F35 being purchased by Canada is the same as the one Israel will have IF it sticks with this jet: https://www.wired.com/2016/05/israel-can-customize-americas-f-35-least-now/ 9.Don't even assume by the time this is done the IAF will continue on with the F35....because....back in November of 2014 the Israeli cabinet rejected the purchase of an additional 31 F35's and reduced to 13-think about that-Israel is the no.1 tester and developer of the craft and it reduced its order after committing its entire future to this craft? Never before in the history of the State of Israel has its ministerial committee in charge of defense spending reversed a previously approved air force request. Never. It didn't just over-ride the Air Force, but former government and the Israeli National Security Council. T hat means all of them had to agree. Israel has 19 F35's on order at about 2.74 billion. Israel was supposed to purchase a total of 50. Israel quite simply can't handle the expense and keep in mind the US offered 2.4 BILLION in credit. As it is Israel was relying on 3.1 billion in military aid from the US which would be used to purchase these craft. That aid by the way is paid back by Israel with interest or in collateral deals exchanging back new improvements to the craft back to Lockhead which then in turn sells that new technology. Bottom line, Israel can't afford the soaring costs. Also something very strange happened. The Minister of Intelligence Yuval Steinitz who avoids the public and media made this public statement about the purchase of the F35: "We are not rubber stamps for the [ministry of defense] and air force." That is because in Israel there is wide spread belief the Air Force and Ministry of Defence are being pressured by the US areonautics industry and are not actng in the be interests of what Israel actually needs. Steinitz is on record at five different meetings with the panel on defense procurement dealing with the F35, openly questioning its effectiveness and referring to articles from Aviation Week from 2003 and 2008. Those articles contained leaks from guess who. a "Senior Israeli official," a euphemism for an Israeli Air Force General not allowed to speak out saying: "For maintaining stealthiness, this aircraft has compromised maneuverability, shorter operational range and significantly less payload capability," a senior Israeli official told Aviation Week. "We shouldn’t be buying so many of them when it is unclear whether the stealth is effective, or there is a countermeasure that would negate it. There are vast gaps in performance between the F-35 and fourth-generation fighters." 1o. Egypt and Saudi Arabia refuse to bu the F35. Egypt has gone with the Rafale, the Saudis with an F16. For them to do that you et someone in Israel told them to pass on the F35. Jordan's air force which is traditionally run by Britain's, is non committal on the F35 because the British are not exactly jumping for joy over its soaring price and like Australia and Canada are now examining the European fighters or Super H as aternatives. In the interim and its not so crazy, someone may look at the Chinese fighter and ask if its a better cheaper alternative as well. Stranger things have happened. Right now China won't sell the craft but it might if it thinks it can make good money. I personally would not touch the Chinese version but some countries might such as Pakistan. India looks like its settling on the Rafale not the F35. I suspect Morrocco is leaning to the Rafale. The only reason Israel has not split from the F35 consortium is because it can't. Its completely captive of it like Canada. Israel gutted its own air industry like Canada did. Israel ditched its Kfir jet like Canada did its Arrow in favour of American manufacturers. Now its haunting them both. Its never good to allow your independence to be given up even to your allies.

I appreciate and understand their struggle. But now it is against people who had really nothing to do with it in the first place (well unless you go back centuries) So because European nations screwed up, Palestinians have been paying the price for 60+ years. Does that make sense to you?

Yeah, I checked his web site after posting. I don't like his immigration policy. In particular, where he writes: I will introduce smarter immigration policies, using tiered security screening and increased terrorist surveillance, while saying No today and forever to a values test for citizenship.

And from CHANTAL HÉBERT: Also: As I've said earlier, Bernier, Scheer and O'Toole are going to be my top three picks.....Bernier will be my top pick (likewise most of my extended family that are party members, absent my brother that is going O'Toole first). Last year, my wife and I (and my father and mother) all maxed the donation limit on Mad Max, and are holding off until the end of the month to donate again.......for this year, we were thinking of donating ~$500 to each of our top three, but now we're considering $500 to Max and the balance to one of O'Toole and Scheer as a plan "B".

And there isn't really any point to drop out now......its about leverage....for example, say both Alexander and O'Toole have ~4-5% support among the party and they're being courted by both Bernier and O'Leary. Waiting until the March deadline, they both might be trying to get another couple percentage points (translated into ridings) more, well knowing they will never win the leadership, in the hopes of "giving" their endorsement to one of the likely winners that (in the backroom) offers them a plum cabinet spot in exchange.

There's a peterson running?

Or made Peter Mackay the leader of the PCs over one of Prentice, Brison and Orchard......the later two became Liberals.

Uh huh. The kind of wheeling and dealing which gave us Joe Clark as leader?

I disagree.......unless someone wins outright (50% +1) in the first round, the follow on rounds are where the wheeling and dealing take place.......

Kevin O'Leary doesn't "sell" party memberships, he, like the other candidates link to the CPC generic registration......maybe ~9000 people have visited his website? Or maybe ~9000 people have joined after he entered the race....granted, that could be people joining the party to vote against Kevin O'Leary. Let's assume though that he has got 9000 people to join that intended to support him, that would represent ~10-15% of party members........what regions and ridings are these supporters in? Are they concentrated or spread out? None the less, I will watch tonight's debate and see how O'Leary does

In the other forum, some leftists gave me likes....and I gave some likes to leftists too. Depends on what's being said. The like feature helps in different ways.

No! What's "high quality," is highly subjective. It depends on who's reading, and who's pushing that button. As an example, I don't want to name names....but we've just had a slew of topics from someone who posted childish OP....and she is found to have high quality postings? Her rating is neutral! This reputation rating is an ASSASSINATION method for those who have opposing views from the majority in this forum!

Ivison, another commonsense Scot such as myself, see's it too: And his reason, of which I agree if the Tories are unable to form government in 2019 (as opposed to say put Trudeau in a weakened minority) is this: If its to take two elections to form government, Bernier is the man.......I doubt O'Leary would stick around if he "lost" an election, all the while, the party could tear itself apart. And that is why I'll be voting for Bernier and won't mark my ballot for O'Leary (or Leitch)

Apparently the Saudis "screening" process didn't work so well leading up to 9-11. You know, those people who actually did attack America.

And they can't, its a party wide membership.........they don't even have the ballots finalized.

We'll see how temporary it will be but the point is, why aren't Saudis "temporarily banned" for instance? I guess money (especially oil money) Trumps even Donald's form of xenophobia.

Its a challenge by Turkiye and Russia against the World. These two countries openly declared that they are the decision authority about Syria, so World politics.

No, I just wanted to point out that Justin Trudeau has issues with manners and temperament as well. He is no saint compared to Trump.

The problem with that is the person moderating the forum most of the time is not in fact an adult. I'll show myself the door.

Lol at the IRA not being a Christian terrorist group.

And that, of course, is noted in the passage I quoted.....If O'Leary is able to raise over a Million in the next couple of months, and get such a diverse level of support as Bernier, then it will be a much closer race......I know he raised a whack of money during a 24 hour blitz, but what I don't know, is if this will continue and translate into party memberships intent on voting for O'Leary.

Bernier is blowing everyone out of the water on fundraising:

Any injustice done to anyone, regardless of their religion or ethnicity is wrong. There should be reparation. I'm all for it. The Asian Jews should be allowed to go back to their countries of origin. I have never said or thought otherwise. I also think the European Jews, who are the overwhelming majority of the migrants, should also go back or accept to live within one nation, with Muslims, Jews, Christians and any other religion. By the way, I just want to follow-up because you went off on a tangent: Did you read the link I shared with you? Have you replaced the wrong information from your head, re: a) how many Palestinians were driven out of their land and b ) Palestinian's legal claim to the land, with the correct information?

I think all shamelessly hypocritical robbers love your logic. You'd better go back to high school and re-learn what is fallacy of ad hominem