CdnFox Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 Canada misses NATO 2% gdp defence spending target despite promises from Carney government When carney was campaigning and the whole 2% 5% thing was being discussed there were a number of people here who support the military and believe this was excellent news because this dispense spending was absolutely needed and the military's problem was solved. I pointed out to some of those people at the time that they did not understand what was happening or what Carney would do and there was no way they would get with they thought they were going to get. There would be some minor improvements and the money would be funneled elsewhere. They will spend just enough to make it look like they're going to spend enough and they're not too distant future I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. This is going to continue. Well there may be some improvements we're never going to see actual military spending on military things increase nearly as much as those who are all excited about Carney and thought he was great for promoting the military would have thought This would have been one of those things where it would be nice to have been wrong about but here we are 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 26 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Canada misses NATO 2% gdp defence spending target despite promises from Carney government When carney was campaigning and the whole 2% 5% thing was being discussed there were a number of people here who support the military and believe this was excellent news because this dispense spending was absolutely needed and the military's problem was solved. I pointed out to some of those people at the time that they did not understand what was happening or what Carney would do and there was no way they would get with they thought they were going to get. There would be some minor improvements and the money would be funneled elsewhere. They will spend just enough to make it look like they're going to spend enough and they're not too distant future I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. This is going to continue. Well there may be some improvements we're never going to see actual military spending on military things increase nearly as much as those who are all excited about Carney and thought he was great for promoting the military would have thought This would have been one of those things where it would be nice to have been wrong about but here we are “Aspiration without effort is just empty rhetoric.” said the Carney. For that, please accept the obligatory bloodspot as an empty gesture from our resident pudding jumper. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, Legato said: “Aspiration without effort is just empty rhetoric.” said the Carney. For that, please accept the obligatory bloodspot as an empty gesture from our resident pudding jumper. Just a few facts: "Canada is committed to reaching the NATO target of spending 2% of its GDP on defence by 2032. While this 2032 deadline was officially established, recent pressure and updated plans have seen discussions to potentially accelerate this timeline to 2027 or 2030. Original Commitment: The federal government formally committed in 2024 to hit the 2% target by 2032. Accelerated Goals: In early 2025, Defence Minister Bill Blair indicated a desire to move this timeline up to 2027, and other political figures have aimed for 2030." "Canada officially agreed to NATO's 2035 commitment to raise defence spending to 5% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) at the NATO Summit in June 2025, with Prime Minister Mark Carney announcing the pledge, which includes increasing core military spending to 3.5% of GDP and related security investments to 1.5% by 2035. This significant commitment aims to bolster NATO's readiness and strategic autonomy, building on earlier pledges to reach 2% of GDP." https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/defence-spending-two-percent-defence-spending-target-1.7440870 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/defence-spending-two-percent-defence-spending-target-1.7440870 " 2 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted March 7 Author Report Posted March 7 39 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Just a few facts: "Canada is committed to reaching the NATO target of spending 2% of its GDP on defence by 2032. Just a few ACTUAL facts with cites rather than your lies. Canada to meet NATO’s 2% defence spending target this year: Carney Prime Minister Mark Carney says Canada will meet NATO’s two per cent defence spending target this fiscal year as part of a wider announcement increasing spending on the country’s defence and security. Carney made the announcement Monday, saying they would achieve the goal “half a decade ahead of schedule” and would accelerate investments in the years to come." You're such a liar Exflyer - taking an OLDER promise and pretending the NEWER one didn't exist You don't have 'facts', just lies 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 40 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Just a few facts: "Canada is committed to reaching the NATO target of spending 2% of its GDP on defence by 2032. While this 2032 deadline was officially established, recent pressure and updated plans have seen discussions to potentially accelerate this timeline to 2027 or 2030. Original Commitment: The federal government formally committed in 2024 to hit the 2% target by 2032. Accelerated Goals: In early 2025, Defence Minister Bill Blair indicated a desire to move this timeline up to 2027, and other political figures have aimed for 2030." "Canada officially agreed to NATO's 2035 commitment to raise defence spending to 5% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) at the NATO Summit in June 2025, with Prime Minister Mark Carney announcing the pledge, which includes increasing core military spending to 3.5% of GDP and related security investments to 1.5% by 2035. This significant commitment aims to bolster NATO's readiness and strategic autonomy, building on earlier pledges to reach 2% of GDP." https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/defence-spending-two-percent-defence-spending-target-1.7440870 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/defence-spending-two-percent-defence-spending-target-1.7440870 " Commitment does not equate to achievement. 1 Quote
herbie Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 Aww Gee, what a shame. Coulda had an even bigger deficit for PP to whine about... 2 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Just a few ACTUAL facts with cites rather than your lies. Canada to meet NATO’s 2% defence spending target this year: Carney Prime Minister Mark Carney says Canada will meet NATO’s two per cent defence spending target this fiscal year as part of a wider announcement increasing spending on the country’s defence and security. Carney made the announcement Monday, saying they would achieve the goal “half a decade ahead of schedule” and would accelerate investments in the years to come." You're such a liar Exflyer - taking an OLDER promise and pretending the NEWER one didn't exist You don't have 'facts', just lies 49 minutes ago, Legato said: Commitment does not equate to achievement. Yeah...nothin worse that some facts slapping the face of your opinion LOL 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
User Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 1 hour ago, herbie said: Aww Gee, what a shame. Coulda had an even bigger deficit for PP to whine about... Why don't you cry some more about how awful Russia is and how Ukraine should be helped, as you ignore your own country's ineptitude to contribute to the common defense of NATO or do anything meaningful to help Ukraine? 1 Quote
John Stone Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 .................. arguably Canadian's are more concerned about the immediate, issues like affordability, the cost of living, trade relations, personal financial well-being and international relations. 1 Quote
Legato Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 24 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah...nothin worse that some facts slapping the face of your opinion LOL Old comments that are now redundant. The Carney commitments are directly proportional to the Carney no-nothings. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 17 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah...nothin worse that some facts slapping the face of your opinion LOL Some people have difficulty with facts... or understanding what 'fiscal year' means, with defence spending projected to be 2.01% of GDP. I'm surprised 'The Western Standard', the trusted publication for all Western conservative minions wasn't aware of what 'fiscal year' meant either. Maybe time to go back to Rebel News or Fox for accurate information. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Some people have difficulty with facts... or understanding what 'fiscal year' means, with defence spending projected to be 2.01% of GDP. I'm surprised 'The Western Standard', the trusted publication for all Western conservative minions wasn't aware of what 'fiscal year' meant either. Maybe time to go back to Rebel News or Fox for accurate information. The anti Carney crowd hates when they are corrected and will deflect to obscure their comments ...like "cry some more about how awful Russia is and how Ukraine should be helped, as you ignore your own country's ineptitude to contribute to the common defense of NATO or do anything meaningful to help Ukraine?" knowing that the 2% is for and because of NATO. LOL Edited March 7 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 4 hours ago, User said: Why don't you cry some more about how awful Russia is and how Ukraine should be helped, as you ignore your own country's ineptitude to contribute to the common defense of NATO or do anything meaningful to help Ukraine? Canada is one of Ukraine's top supporters globally, the highest per capita among G7 nations. We certainly haven't pressured Ukraine or suggested they cave to Putin. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Canada is one of Ukraine's top supporters globally, the highest per capita among G7 nations. We certainly haven't pressured Ukraine or suggested they cave to Putin. Oh my, I am sure Zelensky sleeps well at night, and Ukraine is devastating the Russian forces with the "per capita" spending you are providing. ROFL 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 8 Author Report Posted March 8 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah...nothin worse that some facts slapping the face of your opinion LOL Well you would know considering that you were the one who was wrong and now you look like a complete tard You failed again kiddo. You think by now you learn to actually check your facts before you look stupid. You know I'm smarter than you, you know I'm better educated than you and you know that I'm better informed than you (mind you so is a tree sloth that's been run over by a steam roller) so if you say something it's untrue I'm probably going to catch it and make you look dumber than a stump And that just happened again. Why don't you read. I mean you're a young kid, you know how the internet works, use your Google fu and educate yourself. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 20 minutes ago, User said: Oh my, I am sure Zelensky sleeps well at night, and Ukraine is devastating the Russian forces with the "per capita" spending you are providing. ROFL I doubt he sleeps well at night when considering the pressure to cave. It's a lot easier to cringe at your President and his administration's efforts to make Zelensky give Putin what he wants. Ridicule is a good metric for measuring your country's efforts to see Putin gets it - you definitely take the global cake for that. Meanwhile I'm perfectly happy if our efforts contribute to people getting enough food, healthcare or essential services. From each to each according to ability or need works for me - I know Ukraine is happy to get whatever it can. Notwithstanding pressure to cave. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 (edited) 5 hours ago, eyeball said: From each to each according to ability or need works for me Since NATO’s largest dead beat can’t spend enough according to its ability or need, Canada get official recognition as a non government organization , like a book club. I get it, you’re all too proud to ask, why bother paying your NATO bill. So good news, you’ll get your new driver license and passport in the mail mmkay. Canada will be folded unilaterally into the United States of America as the 51st State. A gift from our big American hearts. Edited March 8 by paxamericana 1 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 (edited) 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: Well you would know considering that you were the one who was wrong and now you look like a complete tard You failed again kiddo. You think by now you learn to actually check your facts before you look stupid. You know I'm smarter than you, you know I'm better educated than you and you know that I'm better informed than you (mind you so is a tree sloth that's been run over by a steam roller) so if you say something it's untrue I'm probably going to catch it and make you look dumber than a stump And that just happened again. Why don't you read. I mean you're a young kid, you know how the internet works, use your Google fu and educate yourself. Another lying post from a degenerate pedophile LOSER Edited March 8 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Another lying post from a degenerate pedophile LOSER Why do you think it's even remotely appropriate to use language like this in a public forum? Cheeky digs at one another are one thing, but this insult, which you have used countless times in here against one particular individual, is way over the line. It's perfectly fine to disagree with someone but there's no need to repeatedly get nasty like that. I think an apology from you would be a big step in restoring some level of civility in here. 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ironstone said: Why do you think it's even remotely appropriate to use language like this in a public forum? Cheeky digs at one another are one thing, but this insult, which you have used countless times in here against one particular individual, is way over the line. It's perfectly fine to disagree with someone but there's no need to repeatedly get nasty like that. I think an apology from you would be a big step in restoring some level of civility in here. Seriously?? Have you ever read any of confux posts...especially to me but to others?? He cannot respond to anyone without adding insults. Once you read his posts, you can apologize to me LOL He gets what he deserves. Edited March 8 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Seriously?? Have you ever read any of confux posts...especially to me but to others?? He cannot respond to anyone without adding insults. Once you read his posts, you can apologize to me LOL He gets what he deserves. I have to say, right now you stand out more than anyone else with your constant use of the P-word, and obviously not in a good way. I tried. 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 2 hours ago, ironstone said: I have to say, right now you stand out more than anyone else with your constant use of the P-word, and obviously not in a good way. I tried. There is very good reasons for calling him a pedophile. It is very evident in his posts to me. If you too the time, like I said, to read his posts, you would understand but instead, you take my posts and make a judgment without researching his history. Being as judgemental as you are, does not make you look very good either. As for "I tried", I have given him plenty of opportunities to stop and not respond to me but he decides not to and likes to antagonize. So, before you criticize me...look at the entire picture. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted March 8 Author Report Posted March 8 7 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Another lying post from a degenerate pedophile LOSER That's what you say when you know you've lost and I'm right and you feel like a twat again No wonder your daddy left you 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 On 3/7/2026 at 4:59 PM, ExFlyer said: Yeah...nothin worse that some facts slapping the face of your opinion LOL You of all people should have known that the Military would not be able to spend the additional 9.3 bil allotted to make it to 2 % of GDP, That's not how procurement works...Carney could have given 2 trillion in defense spending and end up returning a lions share of that, because they were unable to spend it... Military has never been able to spend its current budget in the last couple decades due to the way procurement is designed in this country....You need to Spend it in order for it to count, returning it to government coffers or have it counted against a future spend, also does not count.... https://www.desjardins.com/qc/en/savings-investment/economic-studies/canada-defence-gdp-6-march-2026.html And more to the point DND has been asked to cut expenses over the next 5 years in many areas, in order to save 7 bil... So are we going to make our 2% mark, no we are going to fall short, because you need that funding to be spent to count...the Liberals know that , you know that, this is liberal excuses to make them look good....and to keep trump happy... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 On 3/7/2026 at 5:28 PM, LinkSoul60 said: Some people have difficulty with facts... or understanding what 'fiscal year' means, with defence spending projected to be 2.01% of GDP. I'm surprised 'The Western Standard', the trusted publication for all Western conservative minions wasn't aware of what 'fiscal year' meant either. Maybe time to go back to Rebel News or Fox for accurate information. Here is the Key word 'SPENDING" and our military has never "spent" all of its given budget in decades, it is either given back to the government coffers or put aside for future equipment purchases either way it is not spent I guess the liberals did not read the small print........all government branches have until march 31 to spend their budgets or return them to the government...Its not some government secret on how it works 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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