eyeball Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 14 hours ago, paxamericana said: Since NATO’s largest dead beat can’t spend enough according to its ability or need, Canada get official recognition as a non government organization , like a book club. In the meantime, we remain one of the biggest contributors to Ukraine. Note when duty called to go fight Hitler Canada put together the 4th largest army in the world at the time. I'm not to concerned about kicking back in peacetime knowing Canadians can pull it together when we have to. The only credible threat of invasion is from the south and the only possible defence is a long term insurgency. The bulk of our funding should go towards caching weapons and training suited for that remote possibility. Just about every other threat, especially in the Arctic, is even more remote. I've long argued we should help form and fund / outfit a coalition of the willing to rid the world of its dictators but that would put us on a collision course with our allies so...as far as funding to go help them clean up the messes they make, screw that too. Notwithstanding of course humanitarian aid or peacekeeping. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Note when duty called to go fight Hitler Canada put together the 4th largest army in the world at the time. Living off the corpses of your forebear huh? Modern Canada has done nothing to earn itself the same respect and has none. 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I'm not to concerned about kicking back in peacetime knowing Canadians can pull it together when we have to. Except Canada never has. Your Canadian citizenship is a joke. Terrorist regime kill Canadian without reprisal. So keep lying to your self but it won’t help. 1 hour ago, eyeball said: The only credible threat of invasion is from the south and the only possible defence is a long term insurgency. The bulk of our funding should go towards caching weapons and training suited for that remote possibility. Canada is a mental illness not a Country. Becoming a State is the best outcome you could ever hope for. There won’t be anyone left to defend Canada from America in 15 years, your fighting age population is none existent old man. You are past the point of theoretical repopulation with a median age of 45 Edited March 9 by paxamericana 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 9 Author Report Posted March 9 On 3/7/2026 at 1:28 PM, LinkSoul60 said: Some people have difficulty with facts... or understanding what 'fiscal year' means, with defence spending projected to be 2.01% of GDP. I'm surprised 'The Western Standard', the trusted publication for all Western conservative minions wasn't aware of what 'fiscal year' meant either. Maybe time to go back to Rebel News or Fox for accurate information. No, it's not projected to be 2% or higher of GDP. In fact we now know it will be lower. Not surprising you didn't post a source I guess 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 34 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Living off the corpses of your forebear huh? No. Pay attention. Counting on the ability of Canada to pull it together when we actually need to. 34 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Modern Canada has done nothing to earn itself the same respect and has none. Compared to you arseholes turning your Shiny Beacon into the Flaming Eye of Mordor? LMAO! 37 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Except Canada never has. You forgot where I said we built 4th largest army when we needed it already? What's wrong with you, how did you miss that? 41 minutes ago, paxamericana said: There won’t be anyone left to defend Canada from America in 15 years Your country will be a failed state in 15 years if not sooner. We'll definitely need to strengthen our border for that. 1 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, eyeball said: you arseholes turning your Shiny Beacon into the Flaming Eye of Mordor? Yesh, who wouldn’t you want to be Sauron. The one petrol dollar to rule them all. 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Your country will be a failed state in 15 years if not sooner. You first, I guarantee it. 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Counting on the ability of Canada to pull it together when we actually need to. Against the might of Sauron!? The greatest fighting force on planet earth? To do what again? Keep pretending you’re not American? That’s what Canada will go to war for? This is why Canadian are the most delusional group of people in North America. Edited March 9 by paxamericana 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 6 minutes ago, paxamericana said: To do what again? Keep pretending you’re not American? That’s what Canada will go to war for? This is why Canadian are the most delusional group of people in North America. Canada will keep its head down while you people blast away at yourselves. We're the more practical people in North America. And who do you think is paying for Trump's tariffs? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: We're the more practical people in North America. Mhmmm, then why are you refusing to have lower taxes, get immediate protection from an actual military and the geopolitical clout that comes with it, almost double your currency value instantaneously and get massive capital investment into your otherwise underinvested infrastructure? I’ll wait. Edited March 9 by paxamericana Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 17 hours ago, Army Guy said: Here is the Key word 'SPENDING" and our military has never "spent" all of its given budget in decades, it is either given back to the government coffers or put aside for future equipment purchases either way it is not spent I guess the liberals did not read the small print........all government branches have until march 31 to spend their budgets or return them to the government...Its not some government secret on how it works What exactly are you trying to say... You're correct that we certainly haven't 'spent' enough on our military and defence. The key word here in case you missed it is 'haven't'. Your complaint this time is about....what? 2 Quote
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) 13 hours ago, paxamericana said: Mhmmm, then why are you refusing to have lower taxes, get immediate protection from an actual military and the geopolitical clout that comes with it, almost double your currency value instantaneously and get massive capital investment into your otherwise underinvested infrastructure? I’ll wait. Sounds pretty good alright. I'd consider it if we joined as 13 states not just one. Giving Puerto Rico full statehood status with equal representation in Washington would probably help instill some confidence in the sincerity of your invitation to us. Edited March 9 by eyeball 1 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
BeaverFever Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 Lets be clear here 1) Anyone who had been following the news can see the Feds are shovelling defense money out the door at breakneck speed. There was just a$1 Bn announcement just today Another major announcement is expected to drop any day now on new assault rifles several more are due over the next few months. 2) The numbers aren’t officially in yet, the government has not yet officially missed the target It will be a photo finish 3) The challenge is guessing what future GDP will be when projects and spending plans were made many months ago. The economy has performed better than forecast so GDP is higher than expected. Some people here would suggest the government just blow the extra cash on something useless so we hit the arbitrary % of GDP target 4) Canada meeting its 2% target (or not) is and has been a major media story for a long time. But the above points are the reason you only see this claim in the Western Standard currently, a right-wing propaganda rag privately owned by 2 Alberta separatist nutjobs. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 9 Author Report Posted March 9 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: Lets be clear here 1) Anyone who had been following the news can see the Feds are shovelling defense money out the door at breakneck speed. There was just a$1 Bn announcement just today Another major announcement is expected to drop any day now on new assault rifles several more are due over the next few months. They promised everybody that it would be 2 percent of gdp in 2025. Did that happen or not? Quote 2) The numbers aren’t officially in yet, the government has not yet officially missed the target It will be a photo finish Budget officer, the guy who works with the numbers, says no. Have you noticed how much time you liberals have to spend explaining why it's completely justified and should have been expected that carney has broken yet another promise? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: They promised everybody that it would be 2 percent of gdp in 2025. Did that happen or not? Fiscal year 2025, which just ended last week. Numbers are not in yet. 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: Budget officer, the guy who works with the numbers, says no. No, Captain ADHD, he did not. Go take some Ritalin and re-read. 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: Have you noticed how much time you liberals have to spend explaining why it's completely justified and should have been expected that carney has broken yet another promise? Have you noticed how much time you spend on your Liberal Derangement Syndrome posting anti-Carney propaganda? Quote
Army Guy Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) 8 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: What exactly are you trying to say... You're correct that we certainly haven't 'spent' enough on our military and defence. The key word here in case you missed it is 'haven't'. Your complaint this time is about....what? Look dog nuts, You having an issue with following the conversations which is a you problem, reread my post it's really not that complicated.... , My post had nothing to do with we have spent in the past, every Canadian knows that Canada has been a lagard in defense spending.......what the lie is this Carney gave the military an extra 9. something bil to push them over the 2 % of GDP....DND will never even spend what they were originally given, let alone the bulk of that 9 plus bil.....There simple not enough time... Here comes the tricky part, you ready, you actually need to spend that money for it to count....against the 2 % of GDP....that is not going to happen, DND has given back bils each and every year back to the federal government , which either went back to government coffers, or was going to be banked for other future purchases....either way it is not counted as spent until it is, If you don't spend it it does not count there for we have not lived uop to our promise, and carney over stated his promise.... ....I gave you a source that i thought was self explanatory...guess i was wrong.... I pointed out regardless of how much Carney gives the military they won't be able to spend all of it, your projection of spending 2.01 % of GDP is false...The government may have allotted that money, but DND has not spent it.... Edited March 9 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ironstone Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 On 3/8/2026 at 6:39 PM, eyeball said: In the meantime, we remain one of the biggest contributors to Ukraine. Maybe Canadians should ask, why are we one of the biggest contributors to Ukraine? Why are the Carney Liberals throwing tens of billions into Ukraine? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
CdnFox Posted March 9 Author Report Posted March 9 38 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Fiscal year 2025, which just ended last week. Numbers are not in yet. But projected. Quote No, Captain ADHD, he did not. Go take some Ritalin and re-read. So you're wrong and you're mad at me for it. Gotcha. Quote Have you noticed how much time you spend on your Liberal Derangement Syndrome posting anti-Carney propaganda? Yes. Zero I'm sorry basic facts and truth upsets you so much. But only a die hard liberal fanatic would claim facts and truth are "anti carney propaganda" Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ironstone said: Maybe Canadians should ask, why are we one of the biggest contributors to Ukraine? Why are the Carney Liberals throwing tens of billions into Ukraine? Because a significant number of Canadians want to support Ukraine. Edited March 9 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ironstone Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Because a significant number of Canadians want to support Ukraine. And guess which company happens to have a lot of assets in Ukraine, and which are under threat from Russia? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
LinkSoul60 Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 30 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Look dog nuts, You having an issue with following the conversations which is a you problem, reread my post it's really not that complicated.... , My post had nothing to do with we have spent in the past, every Canadian knows that Canada has been a lagard in defense spending.......what the lie is this Carney gave the military an extra 9. something bil to push them over the 2 % of GDP....DND will never even spend what they were originally given, let alone the bulk of that 9 plus bil.....There simple not enough time... Here comes the tricky part, you ready, you actually need to spend that money for it to count....against the 2 % of GDP....that is not going to happen, DND has given back bils each and every year back to the federal government , which either went back to government coffers, or was going to be banked for other future purchases....either way it is not counted as spent until it is, If you don't spend it it does not count there for we have not lived uop to our promise, and carney over stated his promise.... ....I gave you a source that i thought was self explanatory...guess i was wrong.... I pointed our regardless of howe much Carney gives the military they won't be able to spend all of it, your projection of spending 2.01 % of GDP is false...The government may have allotted that money, but DND has not spent it.... No sources provided in what you sent me so yes, you were wrong. Suppose we'll find out when the 25/26 government financial audit is done. I'll assume with the planned military spending the liberals can count on your vote going forward. Quote
Army Guy Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Lets be clear here 1) Anyone who had been following the news can see the Feds are shovelling defense money out the door at breakneck speed. There was just a$1 Bn announcement just today Another major announcement is expected to drop any day now on new assault rifles several more are due over the next few months. 2) The numbers aren’t officially in yet, the government has not yet officially missed the target It will be a photo finish 3) The challenge is guessing what future GDP will be when projects and spending plans were made many months ago. The economy has performed better than forecast so GDP is higher than expected. Some people here would suggest the government just blow the extra cash on something useless so we hit the arbitrary % of GDP target 4) Canada meeting its 2% target (or not) is and has been a major media story for a long time. But the above points are the reason you only see this claim in the Western Standard currently, a right-wing propaganda rag privately owned by 2 Alberta separatist nutjobs. 1. yes they are promising money left right and center....but until a contract is signed and checks written that money is only ear marked, not spent....Any government can promise to spend money, much like our housing initiative, with only 9 homes built to date, hard to claim that promise is fulfilled, or all money spent...big difference on promising and writing a contract for services or equipment which takes years, at best.... the Military is not the only department that has a say in military contracts....many jump on board or have a say....and it takes time to clear all of them... 2. your right the numbers are not in, but we have yet to see all these signed contracts, DND has a long history of NOT being able to spend it's current budget let alone act fast enough to spend an additional 9 plus bil...which half of that went to pay, and bonus... second DND has been asked to come up with over 7 bil of savings over the next 4 years....where do you think this money is coming from ? 3. Like i have said before the Military has extremely hard times to spend it's current budget...and for decades it has turned in bils of unspent tax dollars, the military has different budget envelopes, one is operational day to day stuff like unit budgets, like fuel, rations, pay, etc....the next one is equipment ( I THINK flyer CAN EXPLAIN BETTER) meaning equipment is the smallest envelope...operational budgets ie units of these organizations have until march 31 to spend their budgets...that's where the wastes comes in, if you do not spend your total budget your next budget will be smaller....not uncommon for units to purchase stupid stuff, like 2 or 3 years worth of toilet paper, or photo copier paper, and after the rush is down, anything left in these budgets is returned to the feds....the largest amount these units can spend is 25, K per purchase...anything over needs to go to PWSG so hard to get rid of large sums of money and it adds up to bils of unspent funds.....So with all this going on the system would melt down if given say another 9 bil of un planned money to get rid off, big money means big projects and they take years to spend... 4. regardless of whom owns that media source, the way the military spends money has been decades old...it is slow and full of rules that hinder expenditures instead of foster them....one could fill a huge book on the waste and ineffectiveness of the government procurement system...Flyer has talked at great length about it as he was directly involved, I've only had a spectator seat... 5. when it comes down to i would bet my next pension check on Canada failing the next percentage of GDP spent.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, ironstone said: And guess which company happens to have a lot of assets in Ukraine, and which are under threat from Russia? People who make Theremins? 👽 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Army Guy Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 58 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Fiscal year 2025, which just ended last week. Numbers are not in yet. No, Captain ADHD, he did not. Go take some Ritalin and re-read. Have you noticed how much time you spend on your Liberal Derangement Syndrome posting anti-Carney propaganda? Actually the fiscal year ends on march 31 st ....and starts on Apr 1 st, Military will receive new budgets normally by start of may....That means all products must have been received, bills paid by midnight on the 31 st march Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ironstone Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: People who make Theremins? 👽 Still waiting for you to respond to my point in the thread about Trump needing aluminum from Canada... Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, ironstone said: Still waiting for you to respond to my point in the thread about Trump needing aluminum from Canada... I'm sorry, I missed that. What was it again? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ironstone Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm sorry, I missed that. What was it again? Topic "Wonder if Trump needs Canadian aluminum now?" Naw! Let them run down their stockpiles until they're desperate, then raise our prices. Like 50%, that would be 'fair'. If you find that amusing then you'll probably get a laugh out of Canada's shortages in the pharmaceutical sector like painkillers and general drug shortages. About 75% of our pharmaceutical imports come from the US. Sounds like the US is in a great position to raise their prices 'like 50%'. That would only be fair, right? You didn't give this much thought, did you? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Army Guy Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 11 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: No sources provided in what you sent me so yes, you were wrong. Suppose we'll find out when the 25/26 government financial audit is done. I'll assume with the planned military spending the liberals can count on your vote going forward. no the sources were there i gave them in response to flyer....and if i'm wrong then prove it, instead of chirping ... https://www.desjardins.com/nb/en/savings-investment/economic-studies/canada-defence-gdp-6-march-2026.html Every government has a plan very few actually put it into action....when it comes to the military both government have poor records....but the liberals have been full of promises and have delivered on very few....if we go by history the military will not spend all the carney money, it was to much to late in the year....I bet it won't go over 1.75 % of GDP...for 2025....seeing how it was 1.37 percent of GDP in 2024.... And to your answer your question, if they turn their plans into action , i would consider it....but i 've waited 40 plus years for some action by any government to take action and it has not happened yet...Besides i don't rally think they have a choice at this point in time...the world is getting crazier every day.... You won't have to wait long the fiscal year ends on march 31 st.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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