ExFlyer Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 37 minutes ago, Legato said: No hospital parking, nearest is a 15 minute walk and always full after 8am. Cost me a new front tire and a 6 month fight with City of Toronto for reimbursement. I am in Ottawa and parking in the hospital is also very high and there is only street parking around it and the bylaw guys make the city lots of money by handing out tickets As for potholes and tire damage..again in Ottawa, there are hundreds per year. Last year "over 400 total pothole-related damage claims in just the first half of 2025." Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Michael Hardner Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Legato said: 1. Last year had make a visit to St. Mikes hospital for a checkup. Parking was $30 (if you could find any). 2. Roadworks everywhere, took 40 minutes to drive 1/2 kilometer, potholes like Marianas Trench, no one could speak English. 3. Total shithole. What more can you expect from a Liberal wasteland. 1. Pro tip there is a green P just across the street, South side of Queen Street. Do that. Next time. You are welcome. 2. It did not take 40 minutes to drive 500 m. 3. We pay your bills. Thank you, come again. 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: What a great accomplishment. Toronto is sixth safest among all North American shitholes. We'll done. Read it again. It's number one against North American sh1t holes. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Pro tip there is a green P just across the street, South side of Queen Street. Do that. Next time. You are welcome. 2. It did not take 40 minutes to drive 500 m. 3. We pay your bills. Thank you, come again. Read it again. It's number one against North American sh1t holes. Marvie. Im leaving. 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Pro tip there is a green P just across the street, South side of Queen Street. Do that. Next time. You are welcome. 2. It did not take 40 minutes to drive 500 m. 3. We pay your bills. Thank you, come again. Read it again. It's number one against North American sh1t holes. No thanks stick your pro-tip. You're welcome Yes it did, 4 sets of traffic lights, road works, even on green could not cross the intersection. Was you that annoying back seat ghost driver. Carry on paying your bills if that what makes you unhappy. Still a shit hole. Once again you are welcome. Quote
ironstone Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 On 2/14/2026 at 9:27 PM, TreeBeard said: Toronto’s GDP is bigger than Alberta’s. So tell us…. Where is the “economic driver of Canada”? Alberta vs. Ontario in Equalization Payments Current Status Key Points Alberta: Alberta has not received equalization payments since the 1960s due to its high fiscal capacity, primarily from oil and gas revenues. The province contributes significantly to federal revenues, making up about 16% of the total, despite not receiving any equalization funds. Ontario: Ontario has received minimal equalization payments in recent years, reflecting its stronger ability to generate tax revenues compared to other provinces. The province's fiscal capacity is above average, which limits its eligibility for equalization payments. Conclusion Alberta and Ontario have different experiences with equalization payments. Alberta, as a "have" province, does not receive payments due to its high fiscal capacity, while Ontario, although a significant contributor to federal revenues, has also seen limited equalization support due to its relatively strong economic position. Province Equalization Payments Received Fiscal Capacity Contribution to Federal Revenue Alberta $0 (no payments since 1960s) Highest in Canada Approximately 16% of federal revenue Ontario Minimal (recently below average) Above average Significant contributor, but lower than Alberta Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Michael Hardner Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 13 minutes ago, Legato said: 1. No thanks stick your pro-tip. You're welcome 2. Yes it did, 4 sets of traffic lights, road works, even on green could not cross the intersection. Was you that annoying back seat ghost driver. 3. Carry on paying your bills if that what makes you unhappy. 4. Still a shit hole. 5. Once again you are welcome. 1. Well you were the one comparing about being ripped off for parking so does it bother you or not? 2. No. I would never drive down there, I live here so I know better. 3. I don't know that it makes me happy or not. Kind of my duty as a Canadian I guess. 4. Fine. Just don't say I didn't try to help you. 5. Thank you, come again. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
ExFlyer Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ironstone said: Alberta vs. Ontario in Equalization Payments Current Status Key Points Alberta: Alberta has not received equalization payments since the 1960s due to its high fiscal capacity, primarily from oil and gas revenues. The province contributes significantly to federal revenues, making up about 16% of the total, despite not receiving any equalization funds. Ontario: Ontario has received minimal equalization payments in recent years, reflecting its stronger ability to generate tax revenues compared to other provinces. The province's fiscal capacity is above average, which limits its eligibility for equalization payments. Conclusion Alberta and Ontario have different experiences with equalization payments. Alberta, as a "have" province, does not receive payments due to its high fiscal capacity, while Ontario, although a significant contributor to federal revenues, has also seen limited equalization support due to its relatively strong economic position. Province Equalization Payments Received Fiscal Capacity Contribution to Federal Revenue Alberta $0 (no payments since 1960s) Highest in Canada Approximately 16% of federal revenue Ontario Minimal (recently below average) Above average Significant contributor, but lower than Alberta I think the issue and point was Alberta GDP vs Toronto GDP??? Equalization payments are as important to the discussion as Ontario population 16,191,372 VS Alberta population 5,040,871...so what?? Edited February 16 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Nefarious Banana Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: It seems like you look down on professions that actually add value. But I get it... Ditch diggers have clean souls right? Ever had a callus Mike . . .? Hoping to get one by paper-shuffling or self stroking? Carry on . . . . 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 32 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said: Ever had a callus Mike . . .? Hoping to get one by paper-shuffling or self stroking? Carry on . . . . How old are you? Have you ever heard heard of the paperless office? Is this new thing from the 1980s. Look at your hands. I type on the same thing you do. That's my job. 1 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
ironstone Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: I think the issue and point was Alberta GDP vs Toronto GDP??? Equalization payments are as important to the discussion as Ontario population 16,191,372 VS Alberta population 5,040,871...so what?? I was trying to make the point that Alberta(the most screwed over province by far) is the highest per capita contributor to equalization despite the disparity in GDP size. 1 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Nefarious Banana Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: How old are you? Have you ever heard heard of the paperless office? Is this new thing from the 1980s. Look at your hands. I type on the same thing you do. That's my job. How old are you? Spend your whole life in a sh!thole, 'working' in an 8x8 cubicle, endlessly shuffling papers from left hand to right . . . You're important Mike, make no mistake about that, 'job' well done! 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, ironstone said: I was trying to make the point that Alberta(the most screwed over province by far) is the highest per capita contributor to equalization despite the disparity in GDP size. When you say per capita, you're negating the size 9 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said: How old are you? Spend your whole life in a sh!thole, 'working' in an 8x8 cubicle, endlessly shuffling papers from left hand to right . . . You're important Mike, make no mistake about that, 'job' well done! Thank you. There's no paper in offices anymore. 😐 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
herbie Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 (edited) Hey Alberta whiner: YOU pay tax, Alberta doesn't. YOU pay less tax than most Canadians. And earn more money than them. And you don't like the idea of some of it used to help other Canadians? F*ck right off ! I'm sure if you took the population of Toronto in the same light, that would account more than 'their fair share' and they should start whining about Independence too. Edited February 16 by herbie 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, herbie said: Hey Alberta whiner: YOU pay tax, Alberta doesn't. YOU pay less tax than most Canadians. And earn more money than them. And you don't like the idea of some of it used to help other Canadians? F*ck right off ! Why should the mismanagement of eastern Canada, cost western Canada? For the pleasure of making clowns like you, like them? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nefarious Banana Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, herbie said: Hey Alberta whiner: YOU pay tax, Alberta doesn't. YOU pay less tax than most Canadians. And earn more money than them. And you don't like the idea of some of it used to help other Canadians? F*ck right off ! I'm sure if you took the population of Toronto in the same light, that would account more than 'their fair share' and they should start whining about Independence too. Who are you referring too? 1 Quote
Legato Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Well you were the one comparing about being ripped off for parking so does it bother you or not? 2. No. I would never drive down there, I live here so I know better. 3. I don't know that it makes me happy or not. Kind of my duty as a Canadian I guess. 4. Fine. Just don't say I didn't try to help you. 5. Thank you, come again. Bother me of course, does it not bother you? You know better and yet you still live there. Duty? That's just capitulation. When did I ask for your help? (such as it is). Thanks but no thanks. 1 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, ironstone said: I was trying to make the point that Alberta(the most screwed over province by far) is the highest per capita contributor to equalization despite the disparity in GDP size. I was trying to tell you the the discussion was about GDP. "The Greater Toronto Area (GTA) has a population exceeding 7.1 million people as of 2024-2025, accounting for roughly 18% of Canada's total population."...the entire province of Alberta population is only 5,040,871 You can bring lots into the conversation.... but off topic. Edited February 16 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
WestCanMan Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 (edited) On 2/14/2026 at 6:27 PM, TreeBeard said: Toronto’s GDP is bigger than Alberta’s. So tell us…. Where is the “economic driver of Canada”? 1) Toronto's "federally protected" GDP is bigger than Alberta's "federally hamstrung" GDP. 2) GDP is a largely useless stat, which includes things like haircuts, fingernail painting, and tree-pruning services which don't do a damned thing for our overall economy. Exporting goods to other countries is what provides value to our currency internationally, allowing us to import cars, TV's, etc. And when you talk about our export economy, it is dominated by the western provinces. Oil and gas, coal, agricultural products (including potash, grains, meat and vegetables), minerals, uranium, etc account for the majority of our exports. When Torontonians find a way to export haircuts to China, let me know. Edited February 16 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Michael Hardner Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: On their own mike... Yes, on their own. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
TreeBeard Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, ironstone said: Alberta vs. Ontario in Equalization Payments How much does Alberta pay to Ottawa from its provincial coffers? The answer is zero. Federal tax payers, wherever they live, pay for equalization through federal taxes. When did conservatives stop being able to do math or understand basic financial concepts? Edited February 16 by TreeBeard 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Legato said: Bother me of course, does it not bother you? You know better and yet you still live there. Duty? That's just capitulation. When did I ask for your help? (such as it is). Thanks but no thanks. Cities have a lot of traffic. I think. New York city put a hefty toll on cars coming on to Manhattan Island. It's not a sign of decline, as much as a sign of growth. Paying taxes and working is capitulation? Would you be proud if I went on welfare? You didn't ask for my help, that I offered it because I'm a nice guy. You're welcome but you're not welcome. 2 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: I was trying to tell you the the discussion was about GDP. "The Greater Toronto Area (GTA) has a population exceeding 7.1 million people as of 2024-2025, accounting for roughly 18% of Canada's total population."...the entire province of Alberta population is only 5,040,871 You can bring lots into the conversation.... but off topic. So what? How much GDP do you think Toronto would lose, should Alberta separate? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
TreeBeard Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So what? How much GDP do you think Toronto would lose, should Alberta separate? So Toronto would lose GDP, but somehow Alberta wouldn’t? How does this work? Quote
Nationalist Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: So Toronto would lose GDP, but somehow Alberta wouldn’t? How does this work? There would be some erosion. But unfettered oil mining would way more than replace that. As I understand it, Alberta has already sold and started it's own direct pipeline to the States, completely ignoring some federal regulations. BC is in on it too. Edited February 16 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 52 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So what? How much GDP do you think Toronto would lose, should Alberta separate? The comment was about GDP difference between Toronto and Alberta. Toronto would lose nothing. Alberta would lose a lot though. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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