I am Groot Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 20 hours ago, eyeball said: No man, you're just steeped deep in misinformed hooey. I am misinformed about what, exactly? 20 hours ago, eyeball said: Personally, I've never been wealthier since I started catering to affluence. I'm admitting that as dyed in the wool lefty and I often burn 300 litres of fuel a day at work too! I made more money on the market today than some people will make in a year. Yes, I'm doing very well these days. But I'm well aware most people aren't, and I find this incredibly frustrating because the reason they aren't is incompetent government and incompetent media that lies to people to keep those politicians in power. 20 hours ago, eyeball said: I bet you think the concept of a pragmatic lefty is downright alien. But if the end of the world really is nigh Canada will be one of the better places to see it from. Not if we don't get a handle on our economic mess and the tidal wave of unskilled 3rd world labour crossing our borders. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 10 hours ago, Barquentine said: You're just pissed off because the vast majority of Canadians don't share your racist, hate-filled opininions, scared little white boy. Scared little 'white' 'boy' LOLOL yeah, right. clearly @I am Groot is the racist here Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 (edited) 30 minutes ago, I am Groot said: I am misinformed about what, exactly? That all your white replacement nonsense is more important than... 30 minutes ago, I am Groot said: I'm doing very well these days. But I'm well aware most people aren't, and I find this incredibly frustrating because the reason they aren't is incompetent government And this... 30 minutes ago, I am Groot said: ...media that lies to people to keep those politicians in power. ...more conspiracy hooey. 30 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Not if we don't get a handle on our economic mess and the tidal wave of unskilled 3rd world labour crossing our borders. I agree there's lots we need to get control of, one of the more important things being a better grip. Have you ever given thought to the possibility politicians do such a shitty job because their constituents provide them little more than shit to work with? Edited February 7 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Barquentine Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 20 hours ago, User said: However, what do you base "good" on? Define "natural moral compass?" and what are those "natural" morals? If I have to define 'good' and moral compass for you, there's something wrong or missing with you. Quote
I am Groot Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: If I have to define 'good' and moral compass for you, there's something wrong or missing with you. I'll do it for you. Whatever Barquentine likes is good and moral. What he doesn't like or disapproves of is bad and immoral. There. 15 hours ago, eyeball said: That all your white replacement nonsense is more important than... What makes it nonsense? Are you denying its happening? The statistics are pretty damned clear that it is. 15 hours ago, eyeball said: And this... ...more conspiracy hooey. It's a conspiracy that the news media has an incentive to keep the Liberals in power and the Conservatives out? 15 hours ago, eyeball said: I agree there's lots we need to get control of, one of the more important things being a better grip. Have you ever given thought to the possibility politicians do such a shitty job because their constituents provide them little more than shit to work with? No. They do a shitty job because they prioritize themselves over the country. Which just shows that we have a flawed system that puts the wrong people in office. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
User Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: If I have to define 'good' and moral compass for you, there's something wrong or missing with you. That was the point. You claim these things just happen with no explanation. So, by what standards are you saying something is wrong with me? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 6 hours ago, Barquentine said: If I have to define 'good' and moral compass for you, there's something wrong or missing with you. If you can't define those things then there is something even worse wrong with yourself. A man who lives by a code of ethics and morals should know what those ethics and morals are. If you can't articulate them then how can you possibly say you are living up to them? That might be something you need to think about 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: If you can't define those things then there is something even worse wrong with yourself. That's your pathetic reply? "I'm rubber and you're glue..."? You are chldishly pathetic. Quote
User Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 6 hours ago, Barquentine said: That's your pathetic reply? "I'm rubber and you're glue..."? You are chldishly pathetic. So... no more pathetic than your posts here and refusal to directly respond to the points made about them. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 6 hours ago, Barquentine said: That's your pathetic reply? No my reply went on to explain that you can't have a moral foundation if you can't describe the moral foundation and noted that I myself can articulate any of the moral beliefs that I hold and without that there is no morality You just cut a small piece of it out because you couldn't actually address the reply and pretended that was my reply Which is indeed something you would expect from someone with no morals Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ironstone Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) On 2/6/2026 at 7:20 PM, eyeball said: That all your white replacement nonsense is more important than... So what does Gene Wu,(Democrat, Texas) mean when he said this: "The day the Latino, African American, Asian, and other communities realize that they share the same oppressor is the day we start winning." Gene Wu, a Democratic State Representative in Texas, has sparked controversy with recent remarks about uniting communities of color to "take over this country." Gene Wu (born in China) Edited February 10 by ironstone Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
eyeball Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 16 minutes ago, ironstone said: So what does it mean...? That loose lips sink ships and unfortunately everyone who's seen this video will now need to be neuralyzed. Dang there goes the budget again, we were hoping there'd be something left over for funding queer arts grants this year. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
TreeBeard Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 On 2/3/2026 at 9:41 AM, I am Groot said: From Greek philosophy and art to Roman architecture and engineering I suppose if you’re Greek or Roman, those would be things to be proud of as your heritage. Are you of Greek or Roman descent? If not, why would a white guy from Canada descended from Irish grandparents be proud of these things just because your skin is of a similar shade? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 9 minutes ago, ironstone said: So what does Gene Wu,(Democrat, Texas) mean when he said this: "The day the Latino, African American, Asian, and other communities realize that they share the same oppressor is the day we start winning." Gene Wu, a Democratic State Representative in Texas, has sparked controversy with recent remarks about uniting communities of color to "take over this country." This was the entire idea behind obama's intersectional coalition. Get every minority to believe that straight white male people and those who love them are all their common enemy and they should band together to fight them And that only the democrats would ever help with that Basically it was to stir everybody up and get as many people as possible angry about as many divisions as possible and weaponize that to win an election Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
I am Groot Posted February 10 Author Report Posted February 10 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: I suppose if you’re Greek or Roman, those would be things to be proud of as your heritage. Are you of Greek or Roman descent? If not, why would a white guy from Canada descended from Irish grandparents be proud of these things just because your skin is of a similar shade? They're formative parts of Western culture, something the lefties like you sneer at while you're figuratively kissing the ass of every immigrant from the third world and their shitty, barbaric, backwards cultures. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
TreeBeard Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, I am Groot said: They're formative parts of Western culture, something the lefties like you sneer at while you're figuratively kissing the ass of every immigrant from the third world and their shitty, barbaric, backwards cultures. Why should you feel pride for things done by fellow white-skinned people 3,000 years ago in a culture you have no attachment to? You’re not Greek, are you? Quote
August1991 Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 On 2/3/2026 at 12:41 PM, I am Groot said: The culture we've all grown up in over the past half-century has been one where any talk about pride in being white, or the good things whites have done.... White? Pride in what European white men have done? Agreed. ==== Some people are left-landed. They are born this way. It is not possible to change skin colour. Quote
Nationalist Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 On 2/3/2026 at 3:07 PM, Michael Hardner said: Is it ever moral or immoral to worry ? I don't think I would use those words to describe worry. Your feelings with regards to your race/background are, I suspect, very context-dependent, personal, subjective etc. etc. Pretty hard to criticize an Orthodox Jew, a Black Woman at MIT, a white fisherman... for how they feel about that, or to look at it rationally at all... let alone apply a moral framework. In short: white people are snowflakes, leave them be ! Enough snow creates avalanches. Make sure you have a big shovel handy. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, August1991 said: White? Pride in what European white men have done? Agreed. ==== Some people are left-landed. They are born this way. It is not possible to change skin colour. Exactly. There is no pride to be had in things you are born with. That includes people of color. Pride in the context of identity, as such, is not pride of achievement...... It's a kind of non- shame. They told people to be proud of their skin color. What they meant is... Do not be ashamed of it. As a result, These are all just semantic arguments over values that we probably share anyway. Edited February 10 by Michael Hardner Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Exactly. There is no pride to be had in things you are born with. That includes people of color. Pride in the context of identity, as such, is not pride of achievement...... It's a kind of non- shame. They told people to be proud of their skin color. What they meant is... Do not be ashamed of it. As a result, These are all just semantic arguments over values that we probably share anyway. Pride and concern for one's denomination is both instinctual and rational...unless one has been trained to feel otherwise. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) On 2/4/2026 at 3:53 PM, eyeball said: No, it's just ridiculous. Edited February 10 by John Stone Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Pride and concern for one's denomination is both instinctual and rational...unless one has been trained to feel otherwise. People are 'trained' to denominate in many ways with the possible exception of tribe and family. Why would humans evolve to feel kinship with something called a 'nation' which is a pretty recent invention ? Edited to add a ridiculous example: I went to the Corvette Museum, I think in Kentucky... about 30 years ago. They showed a video of those large car rallies, and interviewed the organizer... he actually said "Corvette people are good people" Like... buying one of those cars means you're part of his tribe therefore good. People using their minds is too much to ask in such an environment, my two cents. Edited February 10 by Michael Hardner 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: People are 'trained' to denominate in many ways with the possible exception of tribe and family. Why would humans evolve to feel kinship with something called a 'nation' which is a pretty recent invention ? Edited to add a ridiculous example: I went to the Corvette Museum, I think in Kentucky... about 30 years ago. They showed a video of those large car rallies, and interviewed the organizer... he actually said "Corvette people are good people" Like... buying one of those cars means you're part of his tribe therefore good. People using their minds is too much to ask in such an environment, my two cents. Keep your 2 cents Mike. We were talking about skin color, not nation. But nice try. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 48 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Keep your 2 cents Mike. We were talking about skin color, not nation. But nice try. How exactly I'm supposed to automatically assume 'skin colour' is what you meant by denomination is beyond me. In any case, explain to me why identifying with similar skin colour is rational OR instinctual. People evolved in tribes and rarely warred with people from different climates. What constitutes an outsider is in question and - yes - it could be skin colour, but also religion, nationality and uncountable other things. So I will keep my point - there's no true pride in being any race, sexual identity, nationhood or somesuch. You were born into it, AFAIC. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 11 hours ago, August1991 said: It is not possible to change skin colour. Michael Jackson would like to see you outside for a minute..... 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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