Barquentine Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 12 hours ago, Nationalist said: I am a Caucasian and proud of it I am also Caucasian and neither proud nor not proud of it. I had no choice in being born one race or another, so how can I be proud of that? That's like being proud that the sky is blue. We can be proud of our accomplishments in this life, but pride in what someone did 500 or 1000 years ago, just because they had the same skin colour as us? That's a stretch. 2 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: And you may not have heard this but there were actually some things that were done by European people more recently than 3,000 years ago Including, but not limited to: Pre-500 BC c. 1300 BC Tollense valley battlefield c. 1200 BC Trojan War c. 1104–900 BC Dorian invasion c. 753–351 BC Roman–Etruscan Wars c. 753–494 BC Roman–Sabine wars 743–724 BC First Messenian War 710–650 BC Lelantine War circa 700–601 BC Alban war with Rome 685–668 BC Second Messenian War 669–668 BC Sparta–Argos War 600–265 BC Greek–Punic Wars 595–585 BC First Sacred War 560 BC Second Arcadian War 540 BC Battle of Alalia 538–522 BC Polycrates wars 500–200 BC 509–396 BC Early Italian campaigns 500–499 BC Persian invasion of Naxos' 499–493 BC Ionian Revolt 492–490 BC First Persian invasion of Greece 482–479 BC Second Persian invasion of Greece 480–307 BC Sicilian Wars 460–445 BC First Peloponnesian War 449–448 BC Second Sacred War 440–439 BC Samian War 431–404 BC Second Peloponnesian War 404–403 BC Phyle Campaign 395–387 BC Corinthian War 390–387 BC Celtic invasion of Italia 378–371 BC Boeotian War 378–362 BC Theban-Spartan War 357–355 BC Social War 356–346 BC Third Sacred War 346-344 BC Foreign War 335 BC Alexander's Balkan campaign 323–322 BC Lamian War 280–275 BC Pyrrhic War 272 BC Pyrrhus' invasion of the Peloponnese 267–261 BC Chremonidean War 264–241 BC First Punic War 229– 222 BC Cleomenean War 229–228 BC First Illyrian War 220–216 BC Lyttian War 220–217 BC Social War 220–219 BC Second Illyrian War 218–201 BC Second Punic War 214–205 BC First Macedonian War 200 BC—1st Century AD 200–197 BC Second Macedonian War 195 BC Laconian War 191–189 BC Aetolian War 171–168 BC Third Macedonian War 146 BC Achaean War 135–132 BC First Servile War 113–101 BC Cimbrian War 113 BC – 476 AD Germanic Wars 104–100 BC Second Servile War 91–87 BC Social War 87 BC Bellum Octavianum 85 BC Colchis uprising against Pontus 80–72 BC Sertorian War 82–81 BC Sulla's civil war 77 BC Marcus Aemilius Lepidus 73–71 BC Third Servile War 73–63 BC Roman Expansion in Syria & Judea 65–63 BC Pompey's campaign in Caucasus 63–62 BC Second Catilinarian conspiracy 55–54 BC Caesar's invasions of Britain 58–51 BC Gallic Wars 49–45 BC Caesar's Civil War 42–36 BC Bellum Siculum 43 BC Battle of Mutina 43–42 BC Liberators' civil war 41–40 BC Perusine War 32–30 BC Final War of the Roman Republic 29–19 BC Cantabrian Wars 12 BC - 16 AD Early Germanic campaigns 1st–10th century AD 6–9 Bellum Batonianum 21 Revolt of Sacrovir 49–96 Roman conquest of Britain 51 Armenian–Iberian war 60–61 Boudica's uprising 69 Year of the Four Emperors 69–70 Revolt of the Batavi 86–88 Domitian's Dacian War 101–106 Trajan's Dacian Wars 166–180 Marcomannic Wars 193 Year of the Five Emperors 208–210 Roman invasion of Caledonia 235–284 Crisis of the Third Century 238 Year of the Six Emperors 267–269 Gothic War (267–269) 274 Battle of Châlons 284–285 Roman civil war 306–324 Civil wars of the Tetrarchy 350–353 Roman civil war 356–378 Roman-Alamanni War 360–361 Roman civil war 367–368 Great Conspiracy 367–369 Gothic War (367–369) 376–382 Gothic War (376–382) 387–388 Roman civil war 394 Roman civil war (394) 395-398 Revolt of Alaric I 398 Stilicho's Pictish War 401–403 Gothic War (401–403) 405–406 War of Radagaisus 406 Vandal-Frankish war 406–413 Roman civil war (Constantine III) 409–411 Gerontian Revolt 411–413 Revolt of Jovinus 412-413 War of Heraclianus 409–418 Gothic War (409–418) 409–417: Bagaudae Revolt, uprising in the Loire valley and Brittany 416–418 Gothic War in Spain (416-418) 420 Battle of the Nervasos Mountains 422 Battle of Tarraco 424–425 Roman civil war (Joannes vs Galla Placidia) 425–426: Gothic revolt of Theodoric I 428: Frankish War (428) 430: Gothic revolt of Anaolsus 430-431 Aetius campaign in the Alps 431-432: Frankish War (431–432) 432 Roman civil war of 432 435-436: Burgundian Revolt of Gunther - Flavius Aetius defects the Burgundians. 435–437: Bagaudae uprising under Tibatto in Gaul suppressed by Flavius Aetius. 436-439: Gothic War (436-439) 436–437 Hunnic-Burgundian War 439-443 Vandal War 441-453 Attila's invasion of the Roman Empire 455 Vandalic Sack of Rome 456 Gothic War in Spain (456) 457-458 Gothic War 461-468 Vandal War 461–476 Gothic War (461–476) 486 Battle of Soissons 492-508 Franco-Visigothic Wars 526–532 Iberian War 533-534 Vandalic War 535–554 Gothic War (535–554) 542–562 Lazic War 582–602 Maurice's Balkan campaigns c. 600–793 Frisian–Frankish wars 650–799 Arab–Khazar wars 680–1355 Byzantine–Bulgarian wars 680 Battle of Ongal 695–717 Twenty Years' Anarchy 708 Byzantine–Bulgarian battle of Anchialus 711–718 Umayyad conquest of Hispania 715–718 Frankish Civil War (715–718) 717–718 Second Siege of Constantinople 722–1492 Reconquista 719–759 Umayyad invasion of Gaul 735–737 Marwan ibn Muhammad's invasion of Georgia 759 Byzantine-Bulgarian battle of the Rishki Pass 772–804 Saxon Wars 792 Byzantine-Bulgarian battle of Marcellae 798 Sack of Lisbon c. 800/862–973 Hungarian invasions of Europe 809 Siege of Serdica (Sofia) 811 Byzantine-Bulgarian battle of Vărbitsa Pass (Battle of Pliska) 813 Byzantine-Bulgarian battle of Versinikia 830s Paphlagonian expedition of the Rus' 839–1330 Bulgarian–Serb Wars (medieval) 839–842 Bulgarian–Serb War (839–842) 853 Bulgarian–Serb War (853) 917–924 Bulgarian–Serb wars of 917–924 854–1000 Croatian–Bulgarian wars 854 Croatian–Bulgarian battle of 854 926 Croatian–Bulgarian battle of 926 998 Siege of Zadar 860 Rus'–Byzantine War (860) 865–878 Invasion of the Great Heathen Army 880–1380 Bulgarian–Hungarian wars 896 Battle of Southern Buh 894–896 Byzantine–Bulgarian war of 894–896 902–911 Muslim conquest of Majorca 907 Rus'–Byzantine War (907) 913–927 Byzantine–Bulgarian war of 913–927 917 Battle of Achelous 914 Arab-Georgian War 939 Battle of Andernach 941 Rus'–Byzantine War (941) 955 Battle of Recknitz 963–967 Polish–Veletian War 967/968–971 Sviatoslav's invasion of Bulgaria 980 Battle of Tara 982 Battle of Stilo 983 Great Slav Rising 986 Battle of the Gates of Trajan 986 Battle of Fyrisvellir 11th century 1000 Battle of Svolder 1002–1018 German–Polish War 1014–1208 Byzantine–Georgian wars 1014 Battle of Clontarf 1014 Battle of Kleidion 1015–1016 Pisan–Genoese expeditions to Sardinia 1015–1016 Cnut's invasion of England 1018 Battle of Vlaardingen 1018 Byzantine conquest of Bulgaria 1024 Battle of Listven 1024 Rus'–Byzantine War c. 1037–1047 Miecław's Rebellion 1040-1041 Bulgarian Uprising of Peter Delyan 1043 Rus'–Byzantine War 1044 Battle of Ménfő 1046 Vata pagan uprising 1048–1064 Invasion of Denmark 1050–1185 Byzantine–Norman wars 1051-1052 German-Hungarian War 1057 Battle of Petroe 1060 Battle of the Theben Pass 1063 German invasion of Hungary 1065–1067 War of the Three Sanchos 1066 Norwegian invasion of England 1066–1088 Norman conquest of England 1067–1194 Norman invasion of Wales 1067 Battle on the Nemiga River 1068 Pecheneg invasion of Hungary 1068 Battle of the Alta River 1072 Bulgarian Uprising of Georgi Voyteh 1073–1075 Saxon Rebellion 1074 Battle of Kemej 1074 Battle of Mogyoród 1075 Revolt of the Earls 1077–1088 Great Saxon Revolt 1078 Battle of Kalavrye 1088 Rebellion of 1088 1091 Hungarian occupation of Croatia 1093 Battle of Schmilau 1093 Battle of the Stugna River 1094 Battle of Cuarte 1097 Battle of Gvozd Mountain 1099–1204 Georgian–Seljuk wars 12th century 1109 Battle of Głogów 1115 Battle of Welfesholz 1119 Battle of Bremule 1121 Battle of Didgori 1126 Battle of Chlumec 1125–1186 Guelphs and Ghibellines 1127–1129 Byzantine-Hungarian War 1130–1137 Luso–Leonese War 1130–1240 Civil war era in Norway 1135–1153 The Anarchy 1142–1445 Swedish–Novgorodian Wars 1144–1162 Baussenque Wars 1146 Battle of the Fischa 1159–1345 Wars of the Guelphs and Ghibellines 1162–1165 Luso–Leonese War 1164 Battle of Verchen 1167 Battle of Sirmium 1167–1169 Luso–Leonese War 1169–1175 Norman invasion of Ireland 1173–1174 Revolt of 1173–74 1185–1204 Uprising of Asen and Peter 1196–1197 Castilian–Leonese War 1198 Battle of Gisors 1198–1290 Livonian Crusade 1198–1215 German throne dispute 13th century 1201 Battle of Stellau 1202 Siege of Zadar 1202–1214 Anglo-French War 1204–1261 Nicaean–Latin wars 1205 Battle of Serres (1205) 1205 Battle of Zawichost 1205 Battle of Adrianople (1205) 1206 Battle of Rodosto 1206 Battle of Rusion 1207 Battle of Messinopolis 1208 Battle of Beroia (1208) 1208 Battle of Philippopolis (1208) 1208–1227 Conquest of Estonia 1209–1229 Albigensian Crusade 1211 Welsh uprising of 1211 1215–1217 First Barons' War 1216–1392 Guelphs and Ghibellines 1216–1222 War of Succession of Champagne 1220–1264 Age of the Sturlungs 1223–1241 Mongol invasion of Europe 1224 Siege of La Rochelle 1227 Battle of Bornhöved 1228–1230 War of the Keys 1230 Battle of Klokotnitsa 1231–1233 Friso-Drentic War 1234–1238 Georgian-Mongol War 1235 Siege of Constantinople (1235) 1236–1238 First war against Swantopolk II 1239–1245 Teltow War 1241–1242 First Mongol invasion of Hungary 1242–1243 Mongol invasion of Bulgaria and Serbia 1242 Saintonge War 1242–1249 Prussian uprisings 1246–1282 War of the Babenberg Succession 1256–1258 War of the Euboeote Succession 1256–1381 Venetian–Genoese Wars 1256–1422 Friso-Hollandic Wars 1257–1259 Rebellion of Arbanon 1260 Battle of Kressenbrunn 1260–1274 Prussian uprisings 1262–1266 Scottish–Norwegian War 1264–1267 Second Barons' War 1264–1265 Hungarian Civil War 1269–1272 Civil war in Pomerelia 1274–1281 Byzantine-Angevin war 1275–1276 The war against Valdemar Birgersson 1276–1278 6000-mark war 1276 War of Navarra 1277–1280 Uprising of Ivaylo 1277-1283 Conquest of Wales by Edward I 1278 Battle on the Marchfeld 1282 Cumanic uprising in Hungary 1282–1302 War of the Sicilian Vespers 1283–1289 War of the Limburg Succession 1284–1285 Aragonese Crusade 1285–1286 Second Mongol invasion of Hungary 1288–1295 War of the Outlaws 1296–1357 Wars of Scottish Independence 1297–1305 Franco-Flemish War 1298 Battle of Göllheim 14th century 1302 Battle of the Golden Spurs 1304 Battle of Skafida 1304–1310 The Swedish brother's feud 1307 Battle of Lucka 1310 – 1313 Henry VII's Italian campaign 1311 Battle of Halmyros 1311–1312 Rebellion of mayor Albert 1312 Battle of Rozgony 1313 Battle of Gammelsdorf 1321–1322 Despenser War 1321–1328 Byzantine civil war of 1321–28 1322 Battle of Bliska 1322 Battle of Mühldorf 1323–1328 Peasant revolt in Flanders 1324 War of Saint-Sardos 1326–1332 Polish–Teutonic War 1330–1336 Hungarian-Wallachian War 1330 Catalan–Genoese War 1332 Battle of Rusokastro 1333–1338 Burke Civil War 1337–1453 Hundred Years' War 1340–1392 Galicia–Volhynia Wars 1341–1347 Byzantine civil war of 1341–47 1342–1350 Zealot's Rebellion 1343–1345 St. George's Night Uprising 1345–1396 Bulgarian–Ottoman wars 1345 Battle of Peritheorion 1355 Battle of Ihtiman 1382/1385 Siege of Sofia 1396 Battle of Nicopolis 1347–1352 Neapolitan campaigns of Louis the Great 1350–1370 Muzaka-Serbian Conflict 1350–1498 Wars of the Vetkopers and Schieringers 1350–1490 Hook and Cod wars 1356–1358 Jacquerie 1356–1375 War of the Two Peters 1358–1383 Albanian-Anjou Conflict 1358/1359 Battle of Achelous (1359) 1362 Battle of Helsingborg 1362–1457 War of the Bands 1363-1364 Thopian-Zetan War (1363–64) 1366–1367 Savoyard crusade 1366–1369 Castilian Civil War 1366–1526 Hungarian-Ottoman Wars 1366–1367 Savoyard crusade 1367–1370 Albanian-Epirote War (1367–70) 1369–1370 First Fernandine War 1371–1413 Serbian–Ottoman wars 1371 Battle of Maritsa 1385/1387 Battle of Pločnik 1371 Battle of Baesweiler 1371–1379 War of the Guelderian Succession 1371–1381 War of Chioggia 1372–1373 Second Fernandine War 1373–1377 Władysław the White's Rebellion 1373–1379 Byzantine civil war of 1373–79 1374–1375 Albanian-Epirote War (1374–1375) 1375 Gugler War 1375–1378 War of the Eight Saints 1376 Durrës Expedition 1378 Knights Hospitaller invasion of Despotate of Arta 1381 Peasants' Revolt 1381–1382 Third Fernandine War 1381–1384 Lithuanian Civil War (1381–84) 1381–1384 Albanian-Epirote War (1381–84) 1382 Harelle and Maillotins Revolt 1381–1404 Second Georgian–Mongol War 1383–1385 Invasion of Portugal by Castille – Battle of Aljubarrota, 14 August 1385 1385 Battle of Savra 1387 Battle of Margate 1389 Battle of Kosovo 1389-90 Albanian-Epirote War of 1389–90 1389–1392 Lithuanian Civil War (1389–92) 1390–1402 Florentine–Milanese Wars 1395 Battle of Rovine 1396 Battle of Nicopolis 15th century 1401–1429 Appenzell Wars 1407–1468 Georgian-Turkoman War 1409–1411 Polish–Lithuanian–Teutonic War 1410–1435 War of Slesvig 1414 Hunger War 1419–1434 Hussite Wars 1422 Gollub War 1422 Battle of Arbedo 1424 Aragonese expedition to Tunisia 1425–1454 Wars in Lombardy 1431–1435 Polish–Teutonic War 1432 Aragonese expedition to Tunisia 1434–1436 Engelbrekt rebellion 1435–1442 Aragonese conquest of Naples 1437 Budai Nagy Antal revolt 1438–1556 Russo-Kazan Wars 1440–1446 Old Zürich War 1441 Battle of Samobor 1443–1444 Long campaign 1444 Battle of Varna 1445 First Battle of Olmedo 1447–1448 Albanian–Venetian War 1449–1450 First Margrave War 1449 Battle of Castione 1449–1453 Revolt of Ghent 1450 Jack Cade's Rebellion 1451–1455 Navarrese Civil War 1453 Fall of Constantinople 1453–1454 Morea revolt 1454–1466 Thirteen Years' War 1455–1485 Wars of the Roses 1462 Night attack at Târgoviște 1462–1485 Rebellion of the Remences 1462–1472 Catalan Civil War 1463–1479 Venetian-Ottoman War 1465 Battle of Montlhéry 1465–1468 Wars of Liège 1466–1469 Irmandiño Wars 1467 Second Battle of Olmedo 1467 Hungarian - Moldavian war 1467–1479 War of the Priests 1468 Waldshut War 1468–1478 Bohemian War 1470–1471 Dano-Swedish War 1470–1474 Anglo-Hanseatic War 1474–1477 Burgundian Wars 1475 Battle of Vaslui 1475–1479 War of the Castilian Succession 1476 Battle of Valea Alba 1477–1488 Austrian–Hungarian War (1477–88) 1478 Carinthian Peasant Revolt 1478 Battle of Giornico 1479 Battle of Guinegate 1482–1484 War of Ferrara 1484 Battle of Lochmaben Fair 1485–1488 Mad War 1487 Battle of Crevola 1487 War of Rovereto 1488 Battle of Sauchieburn 1490-91 War of the Hungarian Succession 1492–1583 Muscovite–Lithuanian Wars 1493 Battle of Krbava Field 1493–1593 Hundred Years' Croatian–Ottoman War 1494–1498 Italian War of 1494–98 1495–1497 Russo-Swedish War 1497 Cornish Rebellion of 1497 1497 Battle of Rotebro 1499 Swabian War 1499–1504 Italian War of 1499–1504 – 20,000 killed in action[1] 16th century 1502–1543 Guelders Wars 1503–1505 War of the Succession of Landshut 1508–1516 War of the League of Cambrai – 31,000 killed in action[1] 1509–1510 Polish–Moldavian War 1514 Poor Conrad's Rebellion 1514 Dózsa rebellion 1514–1517 Saxon feud 1515 Slovene Peasant Revolt 1515–1523 Frisian peasant rebellion 1519–1521 Polish–Teutonic War 1520–1521 Revolt of the Comuneros 1521–1523 Revolt of the Brotherhoods 1521–1523 Swedish War of Liberation 1521–1526 Italian War of 1521–1526 – 30,000 killed in action[1] 1521–1526 Hungarian-Ottoman War 1526 Battle of Mohács 1522–1523 Knights' War 1524–1525 German Peasants' War 1526–1527 Jovan Nenad uprising 1526 Revolt of Espadán 1526–1530 War of the League of Cognac – 18,000 killed in action[1] 1526–1528 Hungarian Civil War 1526–1527 Jovan Nenad uprising 1529 First War of Kappel 1529–1533 Habsburg–Ottoman war 1531 Second War of Kappel 1531–1532 War of Two Kings 1534 Silken Thomas Rebellion 1534–1535 Münster Rebellion 1534–1536 Count's Feud 1536–1537 Reformation in Norway 1536–1537 Pilgrimage of Grace 1540 Salt War 1542–1546 Italian War of 1542–1546 – 47,000 killed in action[1] 1542–1543 Dacke War 1540–1547 Habsburg–Ottoman war 1543–1550 Rough Wooing 1546–1547 Schmalkaldic War 1549 Kett's Rebellion 1549 Prayer Book Rebellion 1550 Battle of Sauðafell 1550–1558 Habsburg–Ottoman war 1551–1559 Italian War of 1551–1559 – 75,000 killed in action[1] 1552–1555 Second Margrave War 1554 Wyatt's rebellion 1554–1557 Russo-Swedish War 1556–1567 Hungarian war of succession 1558–1583 Livonian War 1559–1564 Spanish-Ottoman War – 24,000 killed in action[1] 1560 Siege of Leith 1562 First Székely uprising 1562–1598 French Wars of Religion 1563–1570 Northern Seven Years' War 1565 Great Siege of Malta 1565–1568 Habsburg–Ottoman war 1568–1570 Morisco Revolt 1568–1648 Eighty Years' War 1569–1580 Spanish-Ottoman War – 48,000 killed in action[1] 1569–1570 Rising of the North 1569–1573 First Desmond Rebellion 1573 Croatian–Slovene Peasant Revolt 1575 Second Székely uprising 1578 Georgian-Ottoman War 1579–1583 Second Desmond Rebellion 1580–1583 War of the Portuguese Succession 1583–1588 Cologne War 1585–1604 English-Spanish War – 48,000 killed in action[1] 1588–1654 Dutch–Portuguese War 1587–1588 War of the Polish Succession 1590–1595 Russo-Swedish War 1593 Battle of Sisak 1593–1606 Long Turkish War 1593–1617 Moldavian Magnate Wars 1594–1603 Nine Years' War (Ireland) 1595–1621 Moldavian Magnate Wars 1595 Battle of Călugăreni 1596 Third Székely uprising 1596–1597 Cudgel War 1598 First Tarnovo uprising 1598–1599 War against Sigismund 1599 Battle of Șelimbăr 17th century 1602 Savoyard escalade of Geneva 1604–1606 Bocskai Uprising 1605–1618 Polish–Muscovite War 1606–1607 Bolotnikov Rebellion 1606–1608 Zebrzydowski Rebellion 1610–1614 Spanish-Ottoman War – 15,000 killed in action[1] 1610–1617 Ingrian War 1611–1613 Kalmar War 1615–1618 Uskok War 1615–1617 Spanish-Savoian War – 2,000 killed in action[1] 1617–1621 Spanish-Venetian War – 5,000 killed in action[1] 1618–1619 Spanish-Ottoman War – 6,000 killed in action[1] 1618–1648 Thirty Years' War 1624–1625 Siege of Breda – Spain vs. Holland, England 1635 Siege of Leuven – Spain vs. Holland, France 1637 Battle off Lizard Point – Spain vs. Holland 1638 Battle of Getaria – France vs. Spain 1639 Battle of the Downs – Spain vs. Holland 1643 Battle of Rocroi – France vs. Spain 1648 Battle of Lens – France vs. Spain 1618–1639 Bündner Wirren 1620–1621 Polish–Ottoman War 1625 Zhmaylo Uprising 1627–1629 Anglo-French War 1628–1631 War of the Mantuan Succession 1630 Fedorovych Uprising 1632–1634 Smolensk War 1637 Pavlyuk Uprising 1638 Ostryanyn Uprising 1639–1653 Wars of the Three Kingdoms 1639–1640 Bishops' Wars 1641–1653 Irish Confederate Wars 1642–1651 English Civil War 1642–1646 First English Civil War 1648–1649 Second English Civil War 1649–1651 Third English Civil War 1649–1653 Cromwellian conquest of Ireland 1640–1668 Spanish-Portuguese War – 80,000 killed in action[1] 1648–1659 Franco-Spanish War – 108,000 killed in action[1] 1648–1657 Khmelnytsky Uprising 1651 Kostka-Napierski Uprising 1651–1986 Three Hundred and Thirty Five Years' War 1652–1674 Anglo-Dutch Wars 1653 Swiss peasant war of 1653 1654 First Bremian War 1654–1667 Russo-Polish War 1654–1660 English-Spanish War – 15,000 killed in action[1] 1655–1660 Second Northern War 1656 War of Villmergen 1657 Transylvanian campaign into Poland 1657–1662 Ottoman–Transylvanian war 1663–1664 Austro-Turkish War 1666 Second Bremian War 1666–1671 Polish–Cossack–Tatar War 1667–1668 War of Devolution – 4,000 killed in action[1] 1670–1671 Razin's Rebellion 1672 First Kuruc Uprising 1672-1676 Polish-Ottoman War (1672-1676) 1672–1678 Franco-Dutch War – 342,000 killed in action[1] 1672–1673 Second Genoese–Savoyard War 1675–1679 Scanian War 1676–1681 Russo-Ottoman War 1678–1685 Thököly Uprising 1679 Covenanter Rebellion 1683–1684 War of the Reunions – 5,000 killed in action[1] 1683–1699 War of the Holy League – 384,000 killed in action[1] 1685 Monmouth Rebellion 1686 Second Tarnovo uprising 1688 Chiprovtsi uprising 1688–1697 Nine Years' War – 680,000 killed in action[1] 1688 Glorious Revolution 1689 Karposh's rebellion 1689–1692 First Jacobite Rising 1700 Lithuanian Civil War 18th century 1700–1721 Great Northern War – 30,000 Russians killed in action[2] 1701–1714 War of the Spanish Succession – 1,251,000 killed in action[1] 1713-1714 War of the Catalans 1703–1711 Rákóczi's War of Independence 1707–1708 Bulavin Rebellion 1710-1713 Russo-Turkish War 1712 Toggenburg War 1714–1718 Ottoman–Venetian wars 1715–1716 Jacobite rising of 1715 1716–1718 Austro-Turkish War 1718–1720 War of the Quadruple Alliance – 25,000 killed in action[1] 1722–1723 Russo-Persian War 1727–1729 Anglo-Spanish War – 15,000 killed in action[1] 1733–1738 War of the Polish Succession – 88,000 killed in action[1] 1735–1739 Russo-Turkish War 1740–1748 War of the Austrian Succession – 359,000 killed in action[1] 1740–1763 Silesian Wars 1741–1743 Russo-Swedish War 1745–1746 Jacobite rising of 1745 1756–1763 Seven Years' War – 992,000 killed in action[1] 1757 Battle of Khresili 1763–1864 Russo-Circassian War 1768–1772 War of the Bar Confederation 1768–1774 Russo-Ottoman War 1770 Battle of Aspindza 1770 Orlov Revolt 1774–1775 Pugachev's Rebellion 1775–1783 American Revolutionary War 1778–1779 War of the Bavarian Succession 1784 Kettle War 1784–1785 Revolt of Horea, Cloșca and Crișan 1785 Battle of the Sunja 1787 Dutch Patriot Revolt 1787–1792 Russo-Ottoman War 1788–1790 Russo-Swedish War 1789–1802 French Revolutionary Wars – 663,000 killed in action[1] 1790 Saxon Peasants' Revolt 1792 Polish–Russian War of 1792 1794 Kościuszko Uprising 1795 Battle of Krtsanisi 1798 Irish Rebellion of 1798 1798 Peasants' War 19th century 1803 Irish Rebellion of 1803 1803 Souliote War 1803–1815 Napoleonic Wars 1804–1813 First Serbian Uprising 1804–1813 Russo-Persian War 1806–1812 Russo-Ottoman War 1808–1809 Finnish War 1809 Polish–Austrian War 1815–1817 Second Serbian Uprising 1817–1864 Russian conquest of the Caucasus 1821–1829 Greek War of Independence 1821 Wallachian uprising 1823 French invasion of Spain 1826–1828 Russo-Persian War 1827 War of the Malcontents 1828–1829 Russo-Ottoman War 1828–1834 Liberal Wars 1830 July Revolution 1830 Belgian Revolution 1831 Ten Days' Campaign 1830–1831 November Uprising 1831 Canut revolts 1831–1832 Bosnian Uprising 1831–1836 Tithe War 1832 War in the Vendée and Chouannerie of 1832 1832 June Rebellion 1832 Siege of Antwerp 1833–1839 First Carlist War 1833–1839 Albanian Revolts of 1833–39 1843–1844 Albanian Revolt of 1843–44 1846 Galician slaughter 1846 Revolution of Maria da Fonte 1846 Solís Uprising 1846–1849 Second Carlist War 1846–1847 Patuleia 1847 Albanian Revolt of 1847 1847 Sonderbund War 1848–1849 Hungarian Revolution and War of Independence 1848–1851 First Schleswig War 1848–1849 First Italian War of Independence 1852-1853 Montenegrin–Ottoman War 1853–1856 Crimean War 1854 Epirus Revolt of 1854 1858 Mahtra War 1859 Second Italian War of Independence 1861–1862 Montenegrin–Ottoman War 1863–1864 January Uprising 1864 Second Schleswig War 1866 Austro-Prussian War 1866–1869 Cretan Revolt 1866 Third Italian War of Independence 1867 Fenian Rising 1869 Krivošije uprising 1870–1871 Franco-Prussian War 1872–1876 Third Carlist War 1873–1874 Cantonal Revolution 1875–1877 Herzegovina uprising 1876–1878 Serbian–Ottoman War 1876 Bulgarian April Uprising 1876 Razlovtsi insurrection 1876–1878 Montenegrin–Ottoman War 1877–1878 Russo-Ottoman War 1878–1879 Kresna–Razlog uprising 1878 Epirus Revolt of 1878 1878 Austro-Hungarian Occupation of Bosnia 1885 Bulgarian unification 1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War 1897 Thirty Days' War 20th century 1904–1908: Macedonian Struggle 1904–1905: Russo-Japanese War 1905: Łódź insurrection 1905: Revolution of 1905 1906–1908: Theriso revolt 1907: 1907 Romanian Peasants' Revolt 1910: Albanian Revolt of 1910 1910: 5 October 1910 revolution 1911: Albanian Revolt of 1911 1911–1912: Italo-Turkish War 1912: Albanian Revolt of 1912 1912: Royalist attack on Chaves 1912–1913: Balkan Wars 1912–1913: First Balkan War 1913: Tikveš Uprising 1913: Second Balkan War 1913: Ohrid–Debar Uprising 1914: Peasant Revolt in Albania 1914–1918: World War I 1914: Caucasus Campaign 1916: Noemvriana 1917: Toplica Uprising 1918: Judenburg mutiny 1918: Cattaro Mutiny 1918: Aster Revolution 1918: Radomir Rebellion 1918: Finnish Civil War 1916: Easter Rising 1917: Russian Revolution 1917: February Revolution 1917: July Days 1917: Polubotkivtsi uprising 1917: Kornilov affair 1917: October Revolution 1917: Junker mutiny 1917: Kerensky–Krasnov uprising 1917–1921: Russian Civil War 1917–1918: Red Army invasion of Georgia 1917–1921: Ukrainian War of Independence 1917–1921: Ukrainian–Soviet War 1918–1919: Polish–Ukrainian War 1918–1924: Left-wing uprisings against the Bolsheviks 1918: Left SR uprising 1921: Kronstadt rebellion 1918–1922: Heimosodat 1918: Viena expedition 1918: Aunus expedition 1918–1920: Petsamo expeditions 1918–1920: National revolt of Ingrian Finns 1921–1922: East Karelian Uprising 1918–1920: Estonian War of Independence 1918–1925: Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War 1918–1920: North Russia Intervention 1918–1922: Siberian Intervention 1918: Georgian–Armenian War 1918–1920: Georgian–Ossetian conflict (1918–20) 1918–1919: Georgian-Russian conflict over Sochi 1918–1920: Armenian–Azerbaijani War 1918–1920: 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I am Groot Posted February 11 Author Report Posted February 11 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: You made a big leap there... I'm not interested in hysteria on this question. I just want down to earth discussion... Here's your down-to-earth discussion. The government, academia, and most of the media and corporate world insist on using racism to hire, promote, and give contracts and grants to. They aren't hiding it. It's in their regulations and laws, including the regulations I posted, which you aren't interested in. It says it does this because of 'historical underrepresentation,' which, as with everything else the left does, is an American concept. The black population in Canada in 1971, for example, was about 33k, which amounts to about 0.16% of the population. It only barely started to rise in the 1970s, with most of the first immigrants being the governesses and housekeepers brought over from Jamaica and Haiti as temps. It really didn't start to rise significantly until the 1980s when Mulroney boosted immigration numbers. So give me a coherent reason why blacks should be favored in hiring over any other group. Historically unrepresented? They weren't here! And the same goes for every other group aside from indigenous people, who, given they were mostly on reserves until the 1980s, and didn't have a lot of scholars among them, were indeed 'underrepresented' in a lot of jobs. 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: I am also Caucasian and neither proud nor not proud of it. I had no choice in being born one race or another, so how can I be proud of that? That's like being proud that the sky is blue. We can be proud of our accomplishments in this life, but pride in what someone did 500 or 1000 years ago, just because they had the same skin colour as us? That's a stretch. It isn't a matter of being proud of being white. It's a matter of being proud of the accomplishments of Western Culture and wanting to preserve it rather than see it swamped by millions of barbarians from the Middle East and Western Asia. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted February 11 Author Report Posted February 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Including, but not limited to: Thank you. This perfectly illustrates the way the Left looks at the Western world. All they see are the wars. All they see is slavery. All they see is racism. All they see are the bad things. The good things don't matter to them. They don't even take them into consideration. BUT They say nothing because they know virtually nothing about the wars and slaughters and slavery and genocide and violence in the rest of the world. They simply do not care about it. They rejoice in foreign cultures and traditions, not caring, even when they are aware of their bloody past. That gets hand-waved away as unimportant. It's only WE who need to bow our heads in shame and disparage our history. Edited February 11 by I am Groot Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted February 11 Author Report Posted February 11 9 hours ago, TreeBeard said: To celebrate black history, obviously. Every month over many centuries has been white history month. What's to celebrate? Why would you celebrate the accomplishments of others before you were born? 9 hours ago, TreeBeard said: I’m pretty sure it’s about the suppression of their humanity, the fact they were enslaved, etc, etc. I They were enslaved by Africans. So were Europeans. Indians were enslaved by Indians. Asians by Asians. Indigenous people by indigenous people. Why single out blacks? Because all your information is American-centric. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
Nationalist Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: I'd say maybe 10-20% is biologically based. Every living thing has an imperative to pass along its genes and continue its particular species. But as humans 'fear of the other' is more a taught reaction, passed down by generation, exacerbated by politics and media. "The trick is to deal with this instinct in a civil manner...which is not always possible. " BINGO! Thank you for agreeing with me. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: I am also Caucasian and neither proud nor not proud of it. I had no choice in being born one race or another, so how can I be proud of that? That's like being proud that the sky is blue. We can be proud of our accomplishments in this life, but pride in what someone did 500 or 1000 years ago, just because they had the same skin colour as us? That's a stretch. Really? Then I must surmise you find BLM and "Black Pride" intolerable? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Well I DO think it's weird, but I want to assert that I think there's something honest in your stance in all this. Even though you want to make it about deficiencies in my part, I don't feel the same about you here. You seem to have a consistent and axiomatic "ethic" about this and I admire that. But still weird to me, In that you're describing a foreign feeling. That doesn't mean I think your take is bad, or worse than mine, just that I can't relate. Maybe You could understand me better if I said I admire these things we're talking about, that I have a deep affection for the work that my ancestors and others put in to building... I don't know.... Canada, Western civilization.... I stood at the amphitheater at Nimes, I think, when I was a young man.. And standing there I could feel the force of the Roman will to build, and create. I could really feel in my heart that they intended to be there forever. It was awe-inspiring. I have felt that way every time I visited a Roman site ... Such as Pompeii or the aqueduct. And I suppose for Canadian cities and American cities I visited. But pride? That's a very personal feeling I think. I can only really feel pride over my achievements and the ones close to me. And I'm a perfectionist so I don't even feel that about myself very often despite how hard I've worked to achieve what I have in my life. I would say not egotistical, but maybe the opposite.... I don't really feel like I've ever done enough. But I commend you for having a principled take on this. Interesting talk. Thanks. You made me think a lot about what pride means. Truth be told i think you're vastly in the minority. Without a doubt people are proud of their own works but most people are also proud of the achievements they achieve collectively. And it's extremely unusual for it to be one sided as you describe. Didn't you play sports as a kid? When your team won weren't you proud of that even though YOU didn't win all on your own? You didn't score all the goals and stop all the shots etc. You can be proud you won and also be proud of that one goal you scored, the two aren't incompatible, but most people experience both. The fact you find that to be a foreign concept is the anomaly here, not my feeling it. I'm proud of what our ancestors did and built across europe and i'm proud of their accomplishments and advancements that lead up to the discovery of and foudning of our nation and i'm proud of what everybody came together over the last few centuries and built that's given us our country today (yes, even the chinese) And most people DO take pride in the collective efforts of their kith AND kin. So kiddo if anyone's weird here it's you You should reflect on that. People who don't have ties to their past and only see their efforts in isolation tend to be 'untethered' emotionally, understanding the heritage is important. Literally every accomplishment you have ever made is on the backs of others who came before you. So kiddo, the weird Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Michael Hardner Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 10 hours ago, Barquentine said: Including, but not limited to: Pre-500 BC c. 1300 BC Tollense valley battlefield c. 1200 BC Trojan War c. 1104–900 BC Dorian invasion c. 753–351 BC Roman–Etruscan Wars c. 753–494 BC Roman–Sabine wars 743–724 BC First Messenian War 710–650 BC Lelantine War circa 700–601 BC Alban war with Rome 685–668 BC Second Messenian War 669–668 BC Sparta–Argos War 600–265 BC Greek–Punic Wars 595–585 BC First Sacred War 560 BC Second Arcadian War 540 BC Battle of Alalia 538–522 BC Polycrates wars 500–200 BC 509–396 BC Early Italian campaigns 500–499 BC Persian invasion of Naxos' 499–493 BC Ionian Revolt 492–490 BC First Persian invasion of Greece 482–479 BC Second Persian invasion of Greece 480–307 BC Sicilian Wars 460–445 BC First Peloponnesian War 449–448 BC Second Sacred War 440–439 BC Samian War 431–404 BC Second Peloponnesian War 404–403 BC Phyle Campaign 395–387 BC Corinthian War 390–387 BC Celtic invasion of Italia 378–371 BC Boeotian War 378–362 BC Theban-Spartan War 357–355 BC Social War 356–346 BC Third Sacred War 346-344 BC Foreign War 335 BC Alexander's Balkan campaign 323–322 BC Lamian War 280–275 BC Pyrrhic War 272 BC Pyrrhus' invasion of the Peloponnese 267–261 BC Chremonidean War 264–241 BC First Punic War 229– 222 BC Cleomenean War 229–228 BC First Illyrian War 220–216 BC Lyttian War 220–217 BC Social War 220–219 BC Second Illyrian War 218–201 BC Second Punic War 214–205 BC First Macedonian War 200 BC—1st Century AD 200–197 BC Second Macedonian War 195 BC Laconian War 191–189 BC Aetolian War 171–168 BC Third Macedonian War 146 BC Achaean War 135–132 BC First Servile War 113–101 BC Cimbrian War 113 BC – 476 AD Germanic Wars 104–100 BC Second Servile War 91–87 BC Social War 87 BC Bellum Octavianum 85 BC Colchis uprising against Pontus 80–72 BC Sertorian War 82–81 BC Sulla's civil war 77 BC Marcus Aemilius Lepidus 73–71 BC Third Servile War 73–63 BC Roman Expansion in Syria & Judea 65–63 BC Pompey's campaign in Caucasus 63–62 BC Second Catilinarian conspiracy 55–54 BC Caesar's invasions of Britain 58–51 BC Gallic Wars 49–45 BC Caesar's Civil War 42–36 BC Bellum Siculum 43 BC Battle of Mutina 43–42 BC Liberators' civil war 41–40 BC Perusine War 32–30 BC Final War of the Roman Republic 29–19 BC Cantabrian Wars 12 BC - 16 AD Early Germanic campaigns 1st–10th century AD 6–9 Bellum Batonianum 21 Revolt of Sacrovir 49–96 Roman conquest of Britain 51 Armenian–Iberian war 60–61 Boudica's uprising 69 Year of the Four Emperors 69–70 Revolt of the Batavi 86–88 Domitian's Dacian War 101–106 Trajan's Dacian Wars 166–180 Marcomannic Wars 193 Year of the Five Emperors 208–210 Roman invasion of Caledonia 235–284 Crisis of the Third Century 238 Year of the Six Emperors 267–269 Gothic War (267–269) 274 Battle of Châlons 284–285 Roman civil war 306–324 Civil wars of the Tetrarchy 350–353 Roman civil war 356–378 Roman-Alamanni War 360–361 Roman civil war 367–368 Great 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Bulgaria and Serbia 1242 Saintonge War 1242–1249 Prussian uprisings 1246–1282 War of the Babenberg Succession 1256–1258 War of the Euboeote Succession 1256–1381 Venetian–Genoese Wars 1256–1422 Friso-Hollandic Wars 1257–1259 Rebellion of Arbanon 1260 Battle of Kressenbrunn 1260–1274 Prussian uprisings 1262–1266 Scottish–Norwegian War 1264–1267 Second Barons' War 1264–1265 Hungarian Civil War 1269–1272 Civil war in Pomerelia 1274–1281 Byzantine-Angevin war 1275–1276 The war against Valdemar Birgersson 1276–1278 6000-mark war 1276 War of Navarra 1277–1280 Uprising of Ivaylo 1277-1283 Conquest of Wales by Edward I 1278 Battle on the Marchfeld 1282 Cumanic uprising in Hungary 1282–1302 War of the Sicilian Vespers 1283–1289 War of the Limburg Succession 1284–1285 Aragonese Crusade 1285–1286 Second Mongol invasion of Hungary 1288–1295 War of the Outlaws 1296–1357 Wars of Scottish Independence 1297–1305 Franco-Flemish War 1298 Battle of Göllheim 14th century 1302 Battle of the Golden Spurs 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and Cod wars 1356–1358 Jacquerie 1356–1375 War of the Two Peters 1358–1383 Albanian-Anjou Conflict 1358/1359 Battle of Achelous (1359) 1362 Battle of Helsingborg 1362–1457 War of the Bands 1363-1364 Thopian-Zetan War (1363–64) 1366–1367 Savoyard crusade 1366–1369 Castilian Civil War 1366–1526 Hungarian-Ottoman Wars 1366–1367 Savoyard crusade 1367–1370 Albanian-Epirote War (1367–70) 1369–1370 First Fernandine War 1371–1413 Serbian–Ottoman wars 1371 Battle of Maritsa 1385/1387 Battle of Pločnik 1371 Battle of Baesweiler 1371–1379 War of the Guelderian Succession 1371–1381 War of Chioggia 1372–1373 Second Fernandine War 1373–1377 Władysław the White's Rebellion 1373–1379 Byzantine civil war of 1373–79 1374–1375 Albanian-Epirote War (1374–1375) 1375 Gugler War 1375–1378 War of the Eight Saints 1376 Durrës Expedition 1378 Knights Hospitaller invasion of Despotate of Arta 1381 Peasants' Revolt 1381–1382 Third Fernandine War 1381–1384 Lithuanian Civil War (1381–84) 1381–1384 Albanian-Epirote War (1381–84) 1382 Harelle and Maillotins Revolt 1381–1404 Second Georgian–Mongol War 1383–1385 Invasion of Portugal by Castille – Battle of Aljubarrota, 14 August 1385 1385 Battle of Savra 1387 Battle of Margate 1389 Battle of Kosovo 1389-90 Albanian-Epirote War of 1389–90 1389–1392 Lithuanian Civil War (1389–92) 1390–1402 Florentine–Milanese Wars 1395 Battle of Rovine 1396 Battle of Nicopolis 15th century 1401–1429 Appenzell Wars 1407–1468 Georgian-Turkoman War 1409–1411 Polish–Lithuanian–Teutonic War 1410–1435 War of Slesvig 1414 Hunger War 1419–1434 Hussite Wars 1422 Gollub War 1422 Battle of Arbedo 1424 Aragonese expedition to Tunisia 1425–1454 Wars in Lombardy 1431–1435 Polish–Teutonic War 1432 Aragonese expedition to Tunisia 1434–1436 Engelbrekt rebellion 1435–1442 Aragonese conquest of Naples 1437 Budai Nagy Antal revolt 1438–1556 Russo-Kazan Wars 1440–1446 Old Zürich War 1441 Battle of Samobor 1443–1444 Long campaign 1444 Battle of Varna 1445 First Battle of Olmedo 1447–1448 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of Rovereto 1488 Battle of Sauchieburn 1490-91 War of the Hungarian Succession 1492–1583 Muscovite–Lithuanian Wars 1493 Battle of Krbava Field 1493–1593 Hundred Years' Croatian–Ottoman War 1494–1498 Italian War of 1494–98 1495–1497 Russo-Swedish War 1497 Cornish Rebellion of 1497 1497 Battle of Rotebro 1499 Swabian War 1499–1504 Italian War of 1499–1504 – 20,000 killed in action[1] 16th century 1502–1543 Guelders Wars 1503–1505 War of the Succession of Landshut 1508–1516 War of the League of Cambrai – 31,000 killed in action[1] 1509–1510 Polish–Moldavian War 1514 Poor Conrad's Rebellion 1514 Dózsa rebellion 1514–1517 Saxon feud 1515 Slovene Peasant Revolt 1515–1523 Frisian peasant rebellion 1519–1521 Polish–Teutonic War 1520–1521 Revolt of the Comuneros 1521–1523 Revolt of the Brotherhoods 1521–1523 Swedish War of Liberation 1521–1526 Italian War of 1521–1526 – 30,000 killed in action[1] 1521–1526 Hungarian-Ottoman War 1526 Battle of Mohács 1522–1523 Knights' War 1524–1525 German Peasants' War 1526–1527 Jovan Nenad uprising 1526 Revolt of Espadán 1526–1530 War of the League of Cognac – 18,000 killed in action[1] 1526–1528 Hungarian Civil War 1526–1527 Jovan Nenad uprising 1529 First War of Kappel 1529–1533 Habsburg–Ottoman war 1531 Second War of Kappel 1531–1532 War of Two Kings 1534 Silken Thomas Rebellion 1534–1535 Münster Rebellion 1534–1536 Count's Feud 1536–1537 Reformation in Norway 1536–1537 Pilgrimage of Grace 1540 Salt War 1542–1546 Italian War of 1542–1546 – 47,000 killed in action[1] 1542–1543 Dacke War 1540–1547 Habsburg–Ottoman war 1543–1550 Rough Wooing 1546–1547 Schmalkaldic War 1549 Kett's Rebellion 1549 Prayer Book Rebellion 1550 Battle of Sauðafell 1550–1558 Habsburg–Ottoman war 1551–1559 Italian War of 1551–1559 – 75,000 killed in action[1] 1552–1555 Second Margrave War 1554 Wyatt's rebellion 1554–1557 Russo-Swedish War 1556–1567 Hungarian war of succession 1558–1583 Livonian War 1559–1564 Spanish-Ottoman War – 24,000 killed in action[1] 1560 Siege of Leith 1562 First Székely uprising 1562–1598 French Wars of Religion 1563–1570 Northern Seven Years' War 1565 Great Siege of Malta 1565–1568 Habsburg–Ottoman war 1568–1570 Morisco Revolt 1568–1648 Eighty Years' War 1569–1580 Spanish-Ottoman War – 48,000 killed in action[1] 1569–1570 Rising of the North 1569–1573 First Desmond Rebellion 1573 Croatian–Slovene Peasant Revolt 1575 Second Székely uprising 1578 Georgian-Ottoman War 1579–1583 Second Desmond Rebellion 1580–1583 War of the Portuguese Succession 1583–1588 Cologne War 1585–1604 English-Spanish War – 48,000 killed in action[1] 1588–1654 Dutch–Portuguese War 1587–1588 War of the Polish Succession 1590–1595 Russo-Swedish War 1593 Battle of Sisak 1593–1606 Long Turkish War 1593–1617 Moldavian Magnate Wars 1594–1603 Nine Years' War (Ireland) 1595–1621 Moldavian Magnate Wars 1595 Battle of Călugăreni 1596 Third Székely uprising 1596–1597 Cudgel War 1598 First Tarnovo uprising 1598–1599 War against Sigismund 1599 Battle of Șelimbăr 17th century 1602 Savoyard escalade of Geneva 1604–1606 Bocskai Uprising 1605–1618 Polish–Muscovite War 1606–1607 Bolotnikov Rebellion 1606–1608 Zebrzydowski Rebellion 1610–1614 Spanish-Ottoman War – 15,000 killed in action[1] 1610–1617 Ingrian War 1611–1613 Kalmar War 1615–1618 Uskok War 1615–1617 Spanish-Savoian War – 2,000 killed in action[1] 1617–1621 Spanish-Venetian War – 5,000 killed in action[1] 1618–1619 Spanish-Ottoman War – 6,000 killed in action[1] 1618–1648 Thirty Years' War 1624–1625 Siege of Breda – Spain vs. Holland, England 1635 Siege of Leuven – Spain vs. Holland, France 1637 Battle off Lizard Point – Spain vs. Holland 1638 Battle of Getaria – France vs. Spain 1639 Battle of the Downs – Spain vs. Holland 1643 Battle of Rocroi – France vs. Spain 1648 Battle of Lens – France vs. Spain 1618–1639 Bündner Wirren 1620–1621 Polish–Ottoman War 1625 Zhmaylo Uprising 1627–1629 Anglo-French War 1628–1631 War of the Mantuan Succession 1630 Fedorovych Uprising 1632–1634 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1670–1671 Razin's Rebellion 1672 First Kuruc Uprising 1672-1676 Polish-Ottoman War (1672-1676) 1672–1678 Franco-Dutch War – 342,000 killed in action[1] 1672–1673 Second Genoese–Savoyard War 1675–1679 Scanian War 1676–1681 Russo-Ottoman War 1678–1685 Thököly Uprising 1679 Covenanter Rebellion 1683–1684 War of the Reunions – 5,000 killed in action[1] 1683–1699 War of the Holy League – 384,000 killed in action[1] 1685 Monmouth Rebellion 1686 Second Tarnovo uprising 1688 Chiprovtsi uprising 1688–1697 Nine Years' War – 680,000 killed in action[1] 1688 Glorious Revolution 1689 Karposh's rebellion 1689–1692 First Jacobite Rising 1700 Lithuanian Civil War 18th century 1700–1721 Great Northern War – 30,000 Russians killed in action[2] 1701–1714 War of the Spanish Succession – 1,251,000 killed in action[1] 1713-1714 War of the Catalans 1703–1711 Rákóczi's War of Independence 1707–1708 Bulavin Rebellion 1710-1713 Russo-Turkish War 1712 Toggenburg War 1714–1718 Ottoman–Venetian wars 1715–1716 Jacobite rising of 1715 1716–1718 Austro-Turkish War 1718–1720 War of the Quadruple Alliance – 25,000 killed in action[1] 1722–1723 Russo-Persian War 1727–1729 Anglo-Spanish War – 15,000 killed in action[1] 1733–1738 War of the Polish Succession – 88,000 killed in action[1] 1735–1739 Russo-Turkish War 1740–1748 War of the Austrian Succession – 359,000 killed in action[1] 1740–1763 Silesian Wars 1741–1743 Russo-Swedish War 1745–1746 Jacobite rising of 1745 1756–1763 Seven Years' War – 992,000 killed in action[1] 1757 Battle of Khresili 1763–1864 Russo-Circassian War 1768–1772 War of the Bar Confederation 1768–1774 Russo-Ottoman War 1770 Battle of Aspindza 1770 Orlov Revolt 1774–1775 Pugachev's Rebellion 1775–1783 American Revolutionary War 1778–1779 War of the Bavarian Succession 1784 Kettle War 1784–1785 Revolt of Horea, Cloșca and Crișan 1785 Battle of the Sunja 1787 Dutch Patriot Revolt 1787–1792 Russo-Ottoman War 1788–1790 Russo-Swedish War 1789–1802 French Revolutionary Wars – 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1878 Epirus Revolt of 1878 1878 Austro-Hungarian Occupation of Bosnia 1885 Bulgarian unification 1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War 1897 Thirty Days' War 20th century 1904–1908: Macedonian Struggle 1904–1905: Russo-Japanese War 1905: Łódź insurrection 1905: Revolution of 1905 1906–1908: Theriso revolt 1907: 1907 Romanian Peasants' Revolt 1910: Albanian Revolt of 1910 1910: 5 October 1910 revolution 1911: Albanian Revolt of 1911 1911–1912: Italo-Turkish War 1912: Albanian Revolt of 1912 1912: Royalist attack on Chaves 1912–1913: Balkan Wars 1912–1913: First Balkan War 1913: Tikveš Uprising 1913: Second Balkan War 1913: Ohrid–Debar Uprising 1914: Peasant Revolt in Albania 1914–1918: World War I 1914: Caucasus Campaign 1916: Noemvriana 1917: Toplica Uprising 1918: Judenburg mutiny 1918: Cattaro Mutiny 1918: Aster Revolution 1918: Radomir Rebellion 1918: Finnish Civil War 1916: Easter Rising 1917: Russian Revolution 1917: February Revolution 1917: July Days 1917: Polubotkivtsi uprising 1917: 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Armenian–Azerbaijani border clashes 2014: 2014 Armenian–Azerbaijani clashes 2016: 2016 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict 2018: 2018 Armenian–Azerbaijani clashes 2020: July 2020 Armenian–Azerbaijani clashes 2020: Second Nagorno-Karabakh War 2021–2024: Armenian-Azerbaijani border clashes 2022: September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes 2023: 2023 Azerbaijani offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh 2009–2017: Insurgency in the North Caucasus 2010: 2010 Blace bunker raid 2010: Raduša shootout 2011–2013: North Kosovar crisis 2012: Lopota incident 2013–2014: Euromaidan 2014: Revolution of Dignity 2014: 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine 2014–present: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014: Invasion and occupation of Crimea by Russia 2014–2022: War in Donbas 2021–2022: Prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022–present: Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022–present: Belarusian and Russian partisan movement (2022–present) 2023: Wagner Group rebellion 2015: Gošince attack 2015: 2015 Kumanovo clashes 2017: 2017 Isani flat siege 2017–present: Islamic State insurgency in the North Caucasus 2022–2025: Northern Kosovar crisis 2025-present: Polish–German border crisis 2025-present: 2025 Azerbaijan-Russia diplomatic crisis That Roman conquest of Britain one had me conflicted... Its like TWO HOME TEAMS ... 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 21 hours ago, Nationalist said: Then I must surmise you find BLM and "Black Pride" intolerable? Bit of a touche there on 'Black Pride' but those are movements pushing back against centuries of abuse, suppression, lynching, murder by cops and white supremacists... BLM is just a response to the fact that so many blacks have been killed needlessly by cops who faced no repercussions, as if black lives didn't matter. Sounds reasonable to me. What would you do in their place? 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 22 hours ago, I am Groot said: They say nothing Who are "They". Quote
Barquentine Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 22 hours ago, I am Groot said: They simply do not care about it. They rejoice in foreign cultures and traditions, not caring, even when they are aware of their bloody past. That gets hand-waved away as unimportant. It's only WE who need to bow our heads in shame and disparage our history. Again, who are "They"? And please quote where I said anything remotely like what you're suggesting. I simply pointed out the dark side of European history that you want to gloss over. Quote
Barquentine Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 22 hours ago, I am Groot said: swamped by millions of barbarians from the Middle East and Western Asia. Your fevered imagination is running away with you. 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 19 hours ago, CdnFox said: Didn't you play sports as a kid? When your team won weren't you proud of that even though YOU didn't win all on your own? You didn't score all the goals and stop all the shots etc. You can be proud you won and also be proud of that one goal you scored, the two aren't incompatible, but most people experience both. Played a lot of sports as a kid. Scoring a goal or winning a game brought a temporary elation. That's not pride. Learned to play guitar, too.. Felt some pride in that accomplishment. Felt even more years later, when I relearned after a carpentry accident- cut off the tips of my left hand fingers. Still play pretty good. But that's my accomplishment. I'm not 'proud' that Beethoven wrote the Pastoral symphony. Admiration and awe but not pride. 19 hours ago, CdnFox said: I'm proud of what our ancestors did and built across europe and i'm proud of their accomplishments and advancements that lead up to the discovery of and foudning of our nation and i'm proud of what everybody came together over the last few centuries and built that's given us our country today (yes, even the chinese) And most people DO take pride in the collective efforts of their kith AND kin. Well, if we can feel pride for the good things in our history, we must also be able to feel shame for the bad things. Otherwise we're just 2-dimensional and whitewashing history. Because both the good and bad things happened. Instead of pride and shame, how about admiration and regret? 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Bit of a touche there on 'Black Pride' but those are movements pushing back against centuries of abuse, suppression, lynching, murder by cops and white supremacists... BLM is just a response to the fact that so many blacks have been killed needlessly by cops who faced no repercussions, as if black lives didn't matter. Sounds reasonable to me. What would you do in their place? I read the BLM manifesto. They're nothing but racist pigs and thieves. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: 1. Well, if we can feel pride for the good things in our history, we must also be able to feel shame for the bad things. 2. Instead of pride and shame, how about admiration and regret? 1. Maybe this is why people who feel such pride repel suggestions that Canada (or PM Stephen Harper for example) apologize for wrong doings by the nation in years past. I have a new perspective now. 2. That works for me but it's emotion so you can't ask people to feel differently, just to understand that their personal feelings aren't universal and others aren't lying when they say so. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Bit of a touche there on 'Black Pride' but those are movements pushing back against centuries of abuse, suppression, lynching, murder by cops and white supremacists... BLM is just a response to the fact that so many blacks have been killed needlessly by cops who faced no repercussions, as if black lives didn't matter. Sounds reasonable to me. What would you do in their place? If it is OK for black people to have pride in their race, it is OK for white people. Also, the whole notion that there is some kind of systemic underlying racism in police killing black people is based on a lie. The data doesn't support that. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: Played a lot of sports as a kid. Scoring a goal or winning a game brought a temporary elation. That's not pride. Yes, a lack of the ability to feel pride seems to be one of the defining characteristics of the left. Mike's got the same problem, he doesn't understand what it's like to feel proud. Most of us felt proud when we scored a victory or one a tournament or the like. As I said, you are the anomalies not the rest of the world Quote Learned to play guitar, too.. Felt some pride in that accomplishment. Felt even more years later, when I relearned after a carpentry accident- cut off the tips of my left hand fingers. Still play pretty good. But that's my accomplishment. I'm not 'proud' that Beethoven wrote the Pastoral symphony. Admiration and awe but not pride. You play guitar which you're almost sort of proud of but not reallyyou don't feel pride in Beethoven who never wrote anything for a guitar, and you feel this is in some possible way relevant? Quote Well, if we can feel pride for the good things in our history, we must also be able to feel shame for the bad things. Probably more regret than shame, but sure why not. The problem with you on the left is that's ALL you want us to feel. And you want to destroy any image or talk about any of the prideful things we've done. As a canadian i can look back and say 'i really feel like we handled the resdidential school the wrong way" or " it was absolutely criminal what we did to the japanese in ww2". I can get behind public gov't acknowledgements of that and even actions and compensation where appropriate. Righting the wrongs of the past is not a bad thing. But our accomplishments vastly vastly out weigh our mistakes and mistakes have to be taken in context of the day You guys amplify the mistakes and get mad when anyone mentions the good stuff. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Maybe this is why people who feel such pride repel suggestions that Canada (or PM Stephen Harper for example) apologize for wrong doings by the nation in years past. I have a new perspective now. Where does that happen. Where does anyone stand up and say I'm proud of Canada and I repel the suggestion that anything we've done wrong should ever be mentioned or corrected That's something you just made up to justify your own crappy attitude. Now if you suggest that for some reason people today oh black people billions of dollars because of something that happened 200 years ago then yeah, people are going to have a problem with that. But that is not the same thing You don't have a new perspective, you have confirmation bias Quote 2. That works for me but it's emotion so you can't ask people to feel differently, just to understand that their personal feelings aren't universal and others aren't lying when they say so. So you're going to go tell black people that they shouldn't feel pride? Let me know how that goes. I'll say something nice at your funeral Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
herbie Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Is it so f*cking hard to figure out? Black people, Asians, indigenous people have something of a history of treatment they share in common. 'White people' don't. A Greek can be proud to be Greek, an Albanian to be Albanian, S.F.A. to share with a Norwegian or French person. They have a history of distinguishing amongst themselves and the colour of their skin means nothing at all. Black Lives Matter doesn't mean other lives don't, that's just the message BIGOTS want you to think. 1 Quote
User Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 54 minutes ago, herbie said: Is it so f*cking hard to figure out? Black people, Asians, indigenous people have something of a history of treatment they share in common. 'White people' don't. A Greek can be proud to be Greek, an Albanian to be Albanian, S.F.A. to share with a Norwegian or French person. They have a history of distinguishing amongst themselves and the colour of their skin means nothing at all. Black Lives Matter doesn't mean other lives don't, that's just the message BIGOTS want you to think. You are so incredibly ignorant. Reminds me of a friend from Malawi, who grew up a normal life, no problems, her family was fine, and she was black. A real African American. So.. what history of poor treatment does she share in common with anyone because she is black? You are so ignorant you don't even grasp it, that no, not all black people or asians or indigenous people have something of a history of treatment they share. Black Lives Matter is a slogan built on more ignorance, pushed by dishonet race baiting hustlers. The question is, which are you? Quote
I am Groot Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 (edited) On 2/12/2026 at 8:21 AM, Barquentine said: Your fevered imagination is running away with you. In 1971, there were 67k people from South Asia. The Muslim population was 33k. There are now two million Muslims and 2.6 million people from South Asia. My imagination has nothing to do with it. On 2/12/2026 at 8:18 AM, Barquentine said: Again, who are "They"? And please quote where I said anything remotely like what you're suggesting. I simply pointed out the dark side of European history that you want to gloss over. People like you point out the 'dark side of European history' on a constant basis, but never compare it to the rest of the world, never point out the 'dark history' of anywhere else, and never use context. And God forbid you ever found anything to say good about Canada and its history. If you did, it would be something like how wonderfully multicultural we are. Edited February 13 by I am Groot Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 12 hours ago, Barquentine said: Who are "They". People like you, Treebeard, and others who hate Canada and the West. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 4 hours ago, herbie said: Black Lives Matter doesn't mean other lives don't, that's just the message BIGOTS want you to think. Then why not just say all lives matter? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Michael Hardner Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: 1. Where does that happen. Where does anyone stand up and say I'm proud of Canada and I repel the suggestion that anything we've done wrong should ever be mentioned or corrected 2. That's something you just made up to justify your own crappy attitude. 3. Now if you suggest that for some reason people today oh black people billions of dollars because of something that happened 200 years ago then yeah, people are going to have a problem with that. But that is not the same thing 4. So you're going to go tell black people that they shouldn't feel pride? Let me know how that goes. I'll say something nice at your funeral 1. I'm pretty sure I've read that on here. People being miffed that Trudeau apologizes for this or that? 2. Here's the difference between you and me: I recognize that pride is a very personal And subjective thing, and I try to explore the differences between how you feel it and how I feel it... And how that manifests in our opinions on the news of the day, policy, etc. But your take on it is that I have a bad attitude because my feeling is not the same as your feeling. 3. I agree that it's not the same thing. 4. I definitely am not going to tell them that, nor will I make that statement in public. Really what I'm trying to do is to talk about what pride means in different contexts. I can't relate to pride in something that I was born with. I think another poster expressed it above, maybe more clearly than I did. And as such, I think of such pride as a kind of non-shame... 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
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