Legato Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 4 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Oh my! Is that what you're doing? "Worrying" about transgender folks? Yes. Such concern you've shown. Helping them to be eradicated from society because you worry for them. You are a great humanitarian! I guess I was wrong about you all along. Comparing? Im not "comparing" us to Animals. Im saying unequivocally we ARE Animals. Which part confuses you? All of it. Stuff like the above is usually caused by a panidoot perspective. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Legato said: Stuff like the above is usually caused by a panidoot perspective. Its caused by strict compliance with Constitutional edict and scientific fact. Edited April 5 by CrakHoBarbie Quote
CdnFox Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 5 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: I have no self-esteem which is why i do this I'm absolutely amazed that the fact that you lost an argument while trying to claim that humans have the same morality as animals is causing you this much grief. He's kind of self-esteem issues don't just happen. Were your parents abusive to you growing up or the like? 5 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Oh my! Is that what you're doing? That's what he's doing but it's definitely not what you're doing. All you're doing is making a complete ass of yourself and behaving like a child. As a self-proclaimed representative of the transgender community you're making them look like severe mental health issues. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Its caused by strict compliance with Constitutional edict and scientific fact. Not scientific fact that's for sure. The science says that transgenderism is deeply associated with mental health issues. You know, the kind that might make somebody post nothing but a video repetitively 😆😆😆😆 As to the constitutionality, that's always about interpretation. Abortion was a constitutional right until it wasn't. I'm sure when trump is done with the illegal immigrants he'll come for your kind Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Not scientific fact that's for sure. The science says that transgenderism is deeply associated with mental health issues. Wrong. Being transgender is not considered a mental illness by major medical and mental health organizations. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiTnIiav9eTAxUEle4BHaGGFsEQFnoECDcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gob.mx%2Fsalud%2Fprensa%2Fa-study-made-in-mexico-proves-that-the-transgender-is-a-condition-not-a-mental-disease&usg=AOvVaw2pfKwvyw98pnn4AQyuMgsd&opi=89978449 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You know, the kind that might make somebody post nothing but a video repetitively 😆😆😆😆 As to the constitutionality, that's always about interpretation. Abortion was a constitutional right until it wasn't. I'm sure when trump is done with the illegal immigrants he'll come for your kind Says the guy who adds his own text to my posts, then responds to himself. You are one mentally unstable c_nt, for sure. 14 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I'm absolutely amazed that the fact that you lost an argument while trying to claim that humans have the same morality as animals is causing you this much grief. He's kind of self-esteem issues don't just happen. Were your parents abusive to you growing up or the like? That's what he's doing but it's definitely not what you're doing. All you're doing is making a complete ass of yourself and behaving like a child. As a self-proclaimed representative of the transgender community you're making them look like severe mental health issues. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 7 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Wrong. Being transgender is not considered a mental illness by major medical and mental health organizations. ' Sorry but I'm right. You just weren't paying attention I said it was deeply associated with mental health issues. Not that it was a mental health issue. And this is 100% true The vast majority of people who have transgenderism also have gender dysphoria. Gender disphoria is mentioned in DSM-5-TR and is considered a mental health issue related to stress. As one doctor says. you can't have a pathology without an illness. 10 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Says the guy who adds his own text to my posts, then responds to himself. I merely put into words what your picture is actually say. It seem like a good idea to make sure you understood how you looked to other people And I love that you think somehow that's more strange than simply reposting the same picture over and over and over again like a toddler LOL and then try to sell the idea that you don't have mental health issues Anyway now that we've established that transgenderism is in fact deeply associated with mental health issues maybe you should think about how wise it is to prove that point repetitively with your replies? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 25 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Sorry but I'm right. You just weren't paying attention I said it was deeply associated with mental health issues. Not that it was a mental health issue. And this is 100% true The vast majority of people who have transgenderism also have gender dysphoria. Gender disphoria is mentioned in DSM-5-TR and is considered a mental health issue related to stress. As one doctor says. you can't have a pathology without an illness. And why are transexuals in such distress? A lot of that distress comes from pieces of sh1t like you who refuse to accept them. "research indicates that transgender individuals who attempt suicide often do so due to the severe social stress, marginalization, and discrimination they face, rather than their identity alone. Key factors include family rejection, harassment, lack of access to care, and systemic discrimination (being "outcasts"), which lead to immense psychological distress" Thus, f_ckwads like you are a gigantic part of the problem. Quote
User Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 7 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Comparing? Im not "comparing" us to Animals. Im saying unequivocally we ARE Animals. Which part confuses you? All of it. Yes, you are comparing us to animals. Do you think there is no difference between humans and animals now? This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
User Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 17 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: And why are transexuals in such distress? A lot of that distress comes from pieces of sh1t like you who refuse to accept them. "research indicates that transgender individuals who attempt suicide often do so due to the severe social stress, marginalization, and discrimination they face, rather than their identity alone. Key factors include family rejection, harassment, lack of access to care, and systemic discrimination (being "outcasts"), which lead to immense psychological distress" Thus, f_ckwads like you are a gigantic part of the problem. The point is that a child who is going through any number of mental issues dealing with their body, puberty, shame, etc... IS NOT TRANSGENDER. And up until a few moments ago in woke leftist history, thinking you are something you are not, was in fact considered a mental issue. You are not interested in science; you are interested in medical associations pushing woke leftist ideology rather than any real science. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 1 hour ago, User said: The point is that a child who is going through any number of mental issues dealing with their body, puberty, shame, etc... IS NOT TRANSGENDER. And up until a few moments ago in woke leftist history, thinking you are something you are not, was in fact considered a mental issue. You are not interested in science; you are interested in medical associations pushing woke leftist ideology rather than any real science. Where did you earn your doctorate? Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 1 hour ago, User said: Yes, you are comparing us to animals. Do you think there is no difference between humans and animals now? This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Biologically we are the same. The only thing that sets us apart are our cognitive ability. Other than that, we share basic genetic codes, nervous system structures, and fundamental survival instincts, social intelligence, tool usage and the capacity to feel emotions like empathy and grief. So, you can whine on all year with your imbicilic nonsense, reality disagrees with you. Quote
User Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 20 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Where did you earn your doctorate? Me: That cat is not a dog You: DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR eRmAgAwD wHeReD u gO tO vEt sChOoL DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 2 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Biologically we are the same. The only thing that sets us apart are our cognitive ability. Other than that, we share basic genetic codes, nervous system structures, and fundamental survival instincts, social intelligence, tool usage and the capacity to feel emotions like empathy and grief. So, you can whine on all year with your imbicilic nonsense, reality disagrees with you. Reality disagrees with me on what? You once again refuse to respond to the point. Do you think men should roam around killing other men, killing their children, and taking their women as their own? Should we expect the weak, old, or sick to just wander off and die alone? This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 14 minutes ago, User said: You once again refuse to respond to the point. Do you think men should roam around killing other men, killing their children, and taking their women as their own? Should we expect the weak, old, or sick to just wander off and die alone? I do not think men should roam around killing each other, killing their children nor taking women captive. I want to protect the weak and the old. And, once again, what do any of these things have to do with sexual proclivities? I've been talking about sexual orientation Not killing Not kidnapping Not the weak nor old. Your "argument" has no merit. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: And why are transexuals in such distress? A lot of that distress comes from pieces of sh1t like you who refuse to accept them. well setting aside for the moment that I actually do accept them, in reality the vast majority of the stress comes from the dissonance between their physical reality and their perceived gender. That's why it's called gender dysphoria, and not Cdnfox dysphoria That is the medical condition. I mean at the end of the day you don't accept me as a person either. You've been quite clear on that you think of me as some human for no better reason than you perceive that I don't agree with you. But this causes me no pain or discomfort in the slightest. Not being accepted by someone is not it so facto a source of stress But for those who are transgender who experience disphoria they will suffer even if everyone accepts them. It's an illness. 2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: "research indicates that transgender individuals who attempt suicide often do so due to the severe social stress, marginalization, and discrimination they face, rather than their identity alone. Oh you mean they asked a bunch of kids who are dead why they killed themselves. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 In fact they draw that conclusion because transgender people who are asked if they've ever felt suicidal often say yes they did. But the vast majority of them didn't even try to kill themselves. And there's actually very little information that suggests that transgender people commit suicide at any more of a rate than other people of their same age. But however you want to slice that pie the end result is the same. They have mental health issues. So what I said was accurate Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: well setting aside for the moment that I actually do accept them, in reality the vast majority of the stress comes from the dissonance between their physical reality and their perceived gender. That's why it's called gender dysphoria, and not Cdnfox dysphoria That is the medical condition. I mean at the end of the day you don't accept me as a person either. You've been quite clear on that you think of me as some human for no better reason than you perceive that I don't agree with you. But this causes me no pain or discomfort in the slightest. Not being accepted by someone is not it so facto a source of stress But for those who are transgender who experience disphoria they will suffer even if everyone accepts them. It's an illness. Oh you mean they asked a bunch of kids who are dead why they killed themselves. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 In fact they draw that conclusion because transgender people who are asked if they've ever felt suicidal often say yes they did. But the vast majority of them didn't even try to kill themselves. And there's actually very little information that suggests that transgender people commit suicide at any more of a rate than other people of their same age. But however you want to slice that pie the end result is the same. They have mental health issues. So what I said was accurate And, they are killing themselves because of folks like you. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 38 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Biologically we are the same. The only thing that sets us apart are our cognitive ability. Other than that, we share basic genetic codes, nervous system structures, and fundamental survival instincts, social intelligence, tool usage and the capacity to feel emotions like empathy and grief. Yes and no. There are many animals that are radically different than us in all of those respects. And there are no animals that actually feel the same as we do, they may have similar emotions or traits that they are not the same. I know that Disney tries to portray animals as being humans and furry form but they are not, and their intelligence and how they perceive things is radically different. Comparisons between other animal species and humans can have some value. This is why we have rats and laboratories. The direct comparisons are impossible and you need to understand that while all humans are animals all animals are not human. The funny thing is you started off defensibly, your claim that the fact homosexuality occurs in other species as well as our own does suggest it's naturally occurring and not a deviation, You blew it tho when you tried to suggest that because it occurs in nature its somehow MORAL, and that logic does not track. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 5 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: And, they are killing themselves because of folks like you. No they're not. In fact the evidence is they're not killing themselves at all anymore than any other people of the same age. Further without the underlying gender dysphoria nothing anyone did would cause them stress. So we're right back to the beginning. Lots of people aren't accepted by people around them for all kinds of reasons. But it doesn't lead to substantially higher suicide rates. And finally you've made all kinds of suppositions about how I feel about transgender people and how I treat them and yet you've never even asked me. You just think that because eileen conservative I must hate transgender people and wish them ill and would mistreat them if I got the chance Which says that your hatred and bigotry is more of a problem here than me Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 29 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: I do not think men should roam around killing each other, killing their children nor taking women captive. I want to protect the weak and the old. And, once again, what do any of these things have to do with sexual proclivities? I've been talking about sexual orientation Not killing Not kidnapping Not the weak nor old. Your "argument" has no merit. You are the one who tried to compare humans to animals in their sexual activity to say it was "natural." Lots of shit is "natural," and that doesn't make it OK. Again, you keep ignoring: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. 1 Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, User said: You are the one who tried to compare humans to animals in their sexual activity to say it was "natural." Lots of shit is "natural," and that doesn't make it OK. Again, you keep ignoring: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. We are animals. All the things youve mentioned like murder and rape, humans do that too. And, that has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Your argument is imbicilic. Quote
User Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 Just now, CrakHoBarbie said: We are animals. All the things youve mentioned like murder and rape, humans do that too. And, that has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Your argument is imbicilic. Yes, humans do those things, but they are condemned as wrong... not celebrated as "natural" and OK like you are trying to do here. Again, you keep ignoring: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said: We are animals. So are spiders but we're not spiders. Nor could you reasonably compare a human being to a spider or it's emotional state or its activities You couldn't, for example, eat your boyfriend after sex and claim that it's natural and therefore moral because some spiders do it Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No they're not. Thats not what the research shows you bigoted c_nt. People like you drive transexuals to suicide. All the data shows this to be true. You and your revolting bigotry kills people. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidality-transgender-adults/ https://www.suicideinfo.ca/local_resource/trans-fact-sheet/ https://www.ashasexualhealth.org/four-decade-study-in-denmark-shows-higher-suicide-rates-among-transgender-people/ Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 5 minutes ago, User said: Yes, humans do those things, but they are condemned as wrong... not celebrated as "natural" and OK like you are trying to do here. Again, you keep ignoring: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Wrong. Im saying we are animals, and all species have a segment of their population that engage in same sex activity. You call it "nasty", yet every species on the planet engages in it. Go ahead. Keep barking out your bigoted stup1dity. Facts are facts you transphobic c_nt. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So are spiders but we're not spiders. Nor could you reasonably compare a human being to a spider or it's emotional state or its activities You couldn't, for example, eat your boyfriend after sex and claim that it's natural and therefore moral because some spiders do it This has nothing to do with the same sex activities every species on the planet engages in. Quote
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Wrong. Im saying we are animals, and all species have a segment of their population that engage in same sex activity. You call it "nasty", yet every species on the planet engages in it. Go ahead. Keep barking out your bigoted stup1dity. Facts are facts you transphobic c_nt. Animals engage in all sorts of activities. So once again... This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
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