West Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Sad to see Trump kowtowing to violent insurrectionists and fraudsters Quote
robosmith Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, West said: Sad to see Trump kowtowing to violent insurrectionists and fraudsters You don't know the meaning of the word AND believe Trump's BULLSHIT. RepubliCONS are LYING about fraud for their 2026 campaign strategy. They can do that because it's ONLY INVESTIGATIONS. Quote
Hodad Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Ruh roh. The administration lied their asses off, and now that they've been caught red handed by video evidence they have to change their tune. Boy, that's gonna be awkward for all the cultists who bought into the original administration B.S. and have continue to defend them in spite of clear, contradictory video evidence. White House backtracks initial claims about Alex Pretti after intense backlash Widely circulated video of Pretti’s killing by federal agents undercut earlier assertions of him being a gunman ...Over the weekend, senior administration officials including Stephen Miller, the deputy chief of staff, called the victim “a domestic terrorist who tried to assassinate law enforcement”, while Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, accused him of perpetrating “the definition of domestic terrorism”... ...The characterizations were undercut by video footage that showed Pretti was shot in the back roughly 10 times after being tackled to the ground by a group of US border patrol agents whom he had been filming, and disarmed of his gun... 2 Quote
robosmith Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, Hodad said: Ruh roh. The administration lied their asses off, and now that they've been caught red handed by video evidence they have to change their tune. Boy, that's gonna be awkward for all the cultists who bought into the original administration B.S. and have continue to defend them in spite of clear, contradictory video evidence. White House backtracks initial claims about Alex Pretti after intense backlash Widely circulated video of Pretti’s killing by federal agents undercut earlier assertions of him being a gunman ...Over the weekend, senior administration officials including Stephen Miller, the deputy chief of staff, called the victim “a domestic terrorist who tried to assassinate law enforcement”, while Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, accused him of perpetrating “the definition of domestic terrorism”... ...The characterizations were undercut by video footage that showed Pretti was shot in the back roughly 10 times after being tackled to the ground by a group of US border patrol agents whom he had been filming, and disarmed of his gun... How embarrassing for alll the MAGAts here. Esp gnat girl who continually claims "I know what I see." Turns out everyone whose lips are not firmly attached to Trump's behind, see much more clearly, which is much easier when vision is not blocked by that huge ass LMAO 2 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 17 hours ago, Politics1990 said: nonsense lol. people like you spreading false info are the ones who seriously need a punch in the face . The left's answer to people they don't like is always violence. Then they wonder why they get shot 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ironstone Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 (edited) Blast from the past. Presidential Rank Award. The award is given to senior career executives for "sustained extraordinary accomplishment". According to official citations and contemporary reporting, Mr Homan was recognised for his effectiveness in immigration enforcement during a period when the Obama administration prioritised the removal of undocumented immigrants with criminal records. Edited January 27 by ironstone Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
BeaverFever Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 What’s hilarious is the Republicans total hypocrisy that’s got their second amendment base upset with them. When you have no values and arw willing to say ANYTHING you eventually getting tangled up in yourself. What got the Trump admin in hot water is claiming legal gun owners with valid carry permits have no right to protest while armed when armed protest is something the second amendment crowd is famous for. It’s a whole republican subculture Ever since Obama was first elected the gun nuts start holding public protests while brandishing AR-15 rifles, and wearing body armour and ski masks. That’s a thing they invented. The Trump admin said the fact he was armed is proof of an intent to conduct a “massacre” as if the Republicans didn’t fall all over themselves defending Kyle Rittenhouse’s supposed right to run down to a protest happening in another state with his AR-15 specifically because he wanted to be part of the action and mix it up. Then there’s the shooting itself with ICE and the Trump administration lied repeatedly about. The FACTS are 1) The deceased never drew his gun or threatened its use 2) ICE only discovered the gun AFTER his arms were pinned to the ground 3) The ICE agent shot him 4 times in the BACK FROM BEHIND while his armed were pinned to ground not in “self defense” 4) The ICE agent shot him AFTER his colleague had already removed the gun from the holster and walked away with it 5) After shooting him 4 times in the back The ICE shooter and a fellow agent shot his limp body 6 more times Just like the first killing where they shot the driver while she was driving away this is what happens when you recruit a bunch of poorly trained zealots and unleash them on society with total impunity. 2 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 25 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The left's answer to people they don't like is always violence. Then they wonder why they get shot And yet back in reality ICE was the violent actor here. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 21 minutes ago, ironstone said: Blast from the past. Presidential Rank Award. The award is given to senior career executives for "sustained extraordinary accomplishment". According to official citations and contemporary reporting, Mr Homan was recognised for his effectiveness in immigration enforcement during a period when the Obama administration prioritised the removal of undocumented immigrants with criminal records. So? He also told Obama he wanted to start intentionally separating immigrant children from their parents as a terror tactic to discourage illegal immigration but Obama said no but Trump gave hom the green light. Don’t leave out the part about how he recently got caught on camera taking a $50,000 cash bribe and how the Trump admin quashed the investigation. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: And yet back in reality ICE was the violent actor here. I believe in this case it was primarily CBP officers. Equal opportunity CORRUPTION. 💡 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 (edited) 32 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: And yet back in reality ICE was the violent actor here. Not really. This guy deliberately created a conflict in physical confrontation with them. He did so knowing he was armed and continued to resist when they tried to arrest him. That would be on him for being the violent actor. And you have to know if you get into a situation like that with police and you're fighting back and you have a gun on you there is a reasonable chance you're going to get shot. Just like you have to know that if you drive your car into a police officer you're going to get shot. These are all situations where the violence is initiated by the other person and the police violence is a response. Edited January 27 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Sounds like this 'FORMER nurse' wasn't exactly squeaky clean after all Hospital Director Speaks Out: Former Employee Alex Pretti Fired Three Months Ago Amid Multiple Complaints of Inappropriate Behavior - buzzreport247 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 25 minutes ago, robosmith said: I believe in this case it was primarily CBP officers. Equal opportunity CORRUPTION. 💡 Potato potahto Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Sounds like this 'FORMER nurse' wasn't exactly squeaky clean after all Hospital Director Speaks Out: Former Employee Alex Pretti Fired Three Months Ago Amid Multiple Complaints of Inappropriate Behavior - buzzreport247 LMAO that is CLEARLY a fake news site. The photoshopping isn’t even good. Just proves the absurd disinformation swamp the right swims in I probably have Russian spyware on my phone for clicking that sleazy link and all its pop-ups Thanks a lot! 1 Quote
Deluge Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 56 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: What’s hilarious is the Republicans total hypocrisy that’s got their second amendment base upset with them. When you have no values and arw willing to say ANYTHING you eventually getting tangled up in yourself. What got the Trump admin in hot water is claiming legal gun owners with valid carry permits have no right to protest while armed when armed protest is something the second amendment crowd is famous for. It’s a whole republican subculture Ever since Obama was first elected the gun nuts start holding public protests while brandishing AR-15 rifles, and wearing body armour and ski masks. That’s a thing they invented. The Trump admin said the fact he was armed is proof of an intent to conduct a “massacre” as if the Republicans didn’t fall all over themselves defending Kyle Rittenhouse’s supposed right to run down to a protest happening in another state with his AR-15 specifically because he wanted to be part of the action and mix it up. Then there’s the shooting itself with ICE and the Trump administration lied repeatedly about. The FACTS are 1) The deceased never drew his gun or threatened its use 2) ICE only discovered the gun AFTER his arms were pinned to the ground 3) The ICE agent shot him 4 times in the BACK FROM BEHIND while his armed were pinned to ground not in “self defense” 4) The ICE agent shot him AFTER his colleague had already removed the gun from the holster and walked away with it 5) After shooting him 4 times in the back The ICE shooter and a fellow agent shot his limp body 6 more times Just like the first killing where they shot the driver while she was driving away this is what happens when you recruit a bunch of poorly trained zealots and unleash them on society with total impunity. These are the facts, you liar: 1. Democrats believe illegal aliens have just as much right to be in the US as US Citizens have. 2. Because democrats believe illegal aliens have the same rights as US Citizens, that means they have every right to attack ICE agents on sight. 3. ALL democrats who think like this should be convicted for treason and thrown in the slammer for 5 to life. In some ways you perverts are worse than the illegals. Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 25 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Not really. This guy deliberately created a conflict in physical confrontation with them. He did so knowing he was armed and continued to resist when they tried to arrest him. That would be on him for being the violent actor. And you have to know if you get into a situation like that with police and you're fighting back and you have a gun on you there is a reasonable chance you're going to get shot. Just like you have to know that if you drive your car into a police officer you're going to get shot. These are all situations where the violence is initiated by the other person and the police violence is a response. He didn’t throw a single punch. There’s no way you could call that being violent. He tried to free the woman they were trying to apprehend. Sorry there’s just no way you can justify shooting someone 4 times in the back when they’re pinned to the ground face down arms out and no longer armed And the lady was shot AFTER the agent was already clear of the car’s path. Nobody can look at that video and say he would have dead had he not shot her. If your life is not reasonably in danger you don’t get to shoot someone it’s that simple. It’s not a like you get to fire at will if you can tick certain boxes even when you are not in danger or no longer in danger. And I will add not only is this completely hypocritical to how Republicans defended Rittenhouse (which you completely avoided acknowledging) but also completely hypocritical to what Republicans said about the Jan 6 rioters who assaulted DC officers and got pardoned by Trump….many of whom later went on to commit other criminal actions 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 12 minutes ago, Deluge said: These are the facts, you liar: 1. Democrats believe illegal aliens have just as much right to be in the US as US Citizens have. 2. Because democrats believe illegal aliens have the same rights as US Citizens, that means they have every right to attack ICE agents on sight. 3. ALL democrats who think like this should be convicted for treason and thrown in the slammer for 5 to life. In some ways you perverts are worse than the illegals. Everything you say is lie, you’re one of worst the bottom feeding POS users on this site. Not only are you completely ignorant of actual facts, you’re perfectly willing to lie even when you accidentally happen to know one. You’re not capable of intelligently arguing your opinions and you’re disgustingly racist piece of white trailer trash to boot. If you haven’t noticed I usually just ignore your posts but I’m making it official and putting you on my very small ignore list with the 2 other trolls and nutjobs. Sayonara 1 2 1 Quote
Politics1990 Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: The left's answer to people they don't like is always violence. Then they wonder why they get shot when you got ice being violent 1st then yea at some point you fight back. 13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Everything you say is lie, you’re one of worst the bottom feeding POS users on this site. Not only are you completely ignorant of actual facts, you’re perfectly willing to lie even when you accidentally happen to know one. You’re not capable of intelligently arguing your opinions and you’re disgustingly racist piece of white trailer trash to boot. If you haven’t noticed I usually just ignore your posts but I’m making it official and putting you on my very small ignore list with the 2 other trolls and nutjobs. Sayonara i think he may actually be the worst one lol. handful of others who is annoying and lie constantly but he's one of the top 3 that's most blatant Edited January 27 by Politics1990 Quote
ironstone Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 12 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: He didn’t throw a single punch. There’s no way you could call that being violent. He tried to free the woman they were trying to apprehend. Why did he decide to bring his gun this one time when his own family says he never carried it(and two extra mags) with him prior to that fateful day? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ironstone Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 7 minutes ago, Politics1990 said: when you got ice being violent 1st then yea at some point you fight back. So why is this only happening in Minnesota and not other states that have significantly more ICE operations? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Deluge Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 (edited) 37 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Everything you say is lie, you’re one of worst the bottom feeding POS users on this site. Not only are you completely ignorant of actual facts, you’re perfectly willing to lie even when you accidentally happen to know one. You’re not capable of intelligently arguing your opinions and you’re disgustingly racist piece of white trailer trash to boot. If you haven’t noticed I usually just ignore your posts but I’m making it official and putting you on my very small ignore list with the 2 other trolls and nutjobs. Sayonara Gosh if I don't give the wokejobs some concessions, I'm going to run out of opponents. lol Edited January 27 by Deluge Quote
Legato Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 On 1/26/2026 at 12:39 PM, Hodad said: Lol. You don't even realize how wildly unqualified you are to guess at what "normal" people might think. Exhibit A: You're a total farking lunatic, and not even aware of it. So are you. What makes it worse is you are completely aware. Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 7 minutes ago, ironstone said: Why did he decide to bring his gun this one time when his own family says he never carried it(and two extra mags) with him prior to that fateful day? Why did Republican hero Kyle Rittenhouse bring his gun to the BLM riots? According to second amendment advocates because its his legal right and can’t be used as grounds to suggest criminal intentions. Besides your question is completely irrelevant because he was killed AFTER law enforcement pinned his arms to the ground, discovered and removed his gun which he never threatened them with, so they had ZERO reason to shoot him 10 times in the back. Are you seriously trying to argue you can justifiably execute a subdued and unarmed man with 10 shots in the back with the argument “well he was a gun owner so obviously he INTENDED to do something dangerous in the future”. 1 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 38 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: He didn’t throw a single punch. Neither do they. Doesn't mean violence didn't happen Quote There’s no way you could call that being violent. He tried to free the woman they were trying to apprehend. That is literally the definition of violence, he grabbed officers and shoved them and pulled them and interfered with them. That is violence. You start grabbing and shoving people that is violence Quote Sorry there’s just no way you can justify shooting someone 4 times in the back when they’re pinned to the ground face down arms out and no longer armed Well there are lots of ways but there's no two ways about it he the police officer is going to have to answer for the last four or five shots. We'll have to explain himself and justify those actions. It certainly not unheard of for police officers to shoot additional shots after a threat has been ended and they have to pay for that if they don't have a good excuse. But it's still not murder Quote And the lady was shot AFTER the agent was already clear of the car’s path. Nobody can look at that video and say he would have dead had he not shot her. And absolute lie. If that was the case he would have shot her through the back of the head what happened. That one isn't even disputable that one is 100% she deserved to be shot. You have to be deranged beyond belief to think otherwise Quote If your life is not reasonably in danger you don’t get to shoot someone it’s that simple. If you're driving a car and strike a police officer and are still driving the car then you deserve to be shot because you are putting his life in danger. Let's not forget this guy would drag 30 ft the last time he didn't shoot in a similar circumstance it required hospitalization. Just driving a vehicle in the direction of a police officer Is enough to get shot with 100% justification Quote It’s not a like you get to fire at will if you can tick certain boxes even when you are not in danger or no longer in danger. It's absolutely like you do get to shoot if someone is threatening your life with a lethal weapon. Sorry If someone is driving a car at you you're in danger. If they hit you with that car you're in danger. It is beyond childish to suggest the guy wasn't in danger, he had to go to the hospital Quote And I will add not only is this completely hypocritical to how Republicans defended Rittenhouse (which you completely avoided acknowledging) We haven't even discussed him, what do you mean I refuse to acknowledge him? Are you having weird imaginary fantasies about me again? Who else have I magically refused to acknowledge that we haven't discussed? Quote but also completely hypocritical to what Republicans said about the Jan 6 rioters who assaulted DC officers and got pardoned by Trump….many of whom later went on to commit other criminal actions Complete false equivalency. In one case you're talking about a police officer defending themselves in the moment and the other case you're talking about the legal punishments for actions. Not the same thing. Not even close. If a DC rider had driven their car at a cop and the cop is shot them I would be 100% saying that they had it coming. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Why did Republican hero Kyle Rittenhouse bring his gun to the BLM riots? According to second amendment advocates because its his legal right and can’t be used as grounds to suggest criminal intentions. That's true. In a court of law it cannot be used as grounds to suggest criminal intentions unless he commits a criminal act. Which he did not . In other words the mere presence of the gun is not grounds for criminal activity but if he uses the gun in a criminal fashion then it can be evidence that he brought it there for that reason In this case According to reports he was not carrying the gun lawfully. He did not have the correct identification with him for lawful carry. That raises some questions, you're going to confront police officers and you're going to carry a gun but you're not going to do it legally even though you know the law? Odd choice But in any case he wasn't shot for merely having a gun. He knew he was armed and he chose to interfere physically and get into a fight with the cops. It is said that he reached for the gun although I'm not prepared to accept that as absolute just yet. If you're going to carry a gun then if you interact with police you have to be very careful about how you do it and you do not fight back if they're trying to arrest you clearly did Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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