robosmith Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 Video shows man beaten and restrained on the ground by 6 agents https://www.facebook.com/reel/1385105983295875 Quote What we know Federal agents shot and killed a 37-year-old man in Minneapolis on Saturday. This is the second person federal agents killed in the city in less than three weeks. The deceased was identified by family members as Alex Jeffrey Pretti, according to The Associated Press. Videos of the incident show the man checking on a woman who was pushed by federal agents. The agents and the man then got into an altercation. President Donald Trump and DHS officials said the man had a handgun on him during his struggle with the agents. It is not clear in videos of the incident if the man was holding the weapon. He was licensed to carry a firearm. Department of Homeland Security officials said the agent fired “fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers.” Dozens of masked federal immigration officers were on the scene and tense protests are ongoing. Agents have deployed gas. Demonstrators oppose the ongoing ICE activity in the city. Quote
User Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Video shows man beaten and restrained on the ground by 6 agents Shows a man who assaulted an Officer WHILE ARMED, then fighting to resist arrest WHILE ARMED, and in doing so, officers feared for their lives, shooting him in self-defense. This is common sense stuff Robo and I can't stress this enough: If you are going to fight Law Enforcement, don't do it while armed. If you plan to fight Law Enforcement and obstruct them and otherwise be an agitator, do not do it while armed. 3 Quote
West Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 50 minutes ago, User said: Shows a man who assaulted an Officer WHILE ARMED, then fighting to resist arrest WHILE ARMED, and in doing so, officers feared for their lives, shooting him in self-defense. This is common sense stuff Robo and I can't stress this enough: If you are going to fight Law Enforcement, don't do it while armed. If you plan to fight Law Enforcement and obstruct them and otherwise be an agitator, do not do it while armed. Officer is standing his ground. Walz continues to incite violence and should be deemed as a terrorist threat 2 Quote
robosmith Posted January 24 Author Report Posted January 24 26 minutes ago, West said: Officer is standing his ground. Walz continues to incite violence and should be deemed as a terrorist threat Alex Pretti was legally armed and YOUR GRATUITOUS OPINIONS about Walz have NOTHING to do with this case. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 24 Author Report Posted January 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, User said: Shows a man who assaulted an Officer WHILE ARMED, then fighting to resist arrest WHILE ARMED, and in doing so, officers feared for their lives, shooting him in self-defense. This is common sense stuff Robo and I can't stress this enough: If you are going to fight Law Enforcement, don't do it while armed. If you plan to fight Law Enforcement and obstruct them and otherwise be an agitator, do not do it while armed. You have posted ZERO EVIDENCE for your OPINIONS. You don't even know what lead to the scuffle. Meanwhile Pretti was legally ARMED. Mockler has more info than YOU. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1198474685747707 Edited January 24 by robosmith Quote
West Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: Alex Pretti was legally armed and YOUR GRATUITOUS OPINIONS about Walz have NOTHING to do with this case. You cant pull a weapon on a cop. Thats illegal. Duh Quote
West Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 Good point. The latest left wing "martyr" was not carrying his ID while carrying a firearm which is a violation of state law Quote
Fluffypants Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 If your carrying for self defense you don't have 2 extra loaded mags. The only time I have more than one magazine with me is when I go to the range. I don't know what his plan was but don't go to a protest and start shit while armed. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 25 Author Report Posted January 25 56 minutes ago, West said: You cant pull a weapon on a cop. Thats illegal. Duh Pretti never pulled his weapon. Duh On the video I posted from Mockler, it clearly shows an ICE officer retrieving Pretti's weapon FROM HIS HOLSTER. IOW, you don't know what you're talking about AS USUAL. You didn't even watch the videos BEFORE SPOUTING your BULLSHIT. 47 minutes ago, West said: Good point. The latest left wing "martyr" was not carrying his ID while carrying a firearm which is a violation of state law Your RANDOM Tweet proves NOTHING. Quote
robosmith Posted January 25 Author Report Posted January 25 24 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: If your carrying for self defense you don't have 2 extra loaded mags. The only time I have more than one magazine with me is when I go to the range. I don't know what his plan was but don't go to a protest and start shit while armed. The ICE agent pushed Pretti hard FIRST. Do you always spout off too, before examining the EVIDENCE? Quote
User Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 1 hour ago, robosmith said: You have posted ZERO EVIDENCE for your OPINIONS. You don't even know what lead to the scuffle. Meanwhile Pretti was legally ARMED. Mockler has more info than YOU. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1198474685747707 It is not my opinion; it was on video. Being legally armed is irrelevant. 36 minutes ago, robosmith said: The ICE agent pushed Pretti hard FIRST. Do you always spout off too, before examining the EVIDENCE? Yes, because he was in the middle of the road. You have no right to attack LEO for pushing you when they are removing you from your obstruction. Quote
robosmith Posted January 25 Author Report Posted January 25 Bennie Thompson declares Kristi Noem needs to be impeached. ICE agents didn't understand that Pretti had already been disarmed by one of them. Shown here: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1471281741087516 VIDEO 1 Quote
User Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 23 minutes ago, robosmith said: Bennie Thompson declares Kristi Noem needs to be impeached. ICE agents didn't understand that Pretti had already been disarmed by one of them. Shown here: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1471281741087516 VIDEO Yeah, if only ICE agents could all sit at home and watch what is going on in slow motion, one frame at a time. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 3 hours ago, robosmith said: Alex Pretti was legally armed and YOUR GRATUITOUS OPINIONS about Walz have NOTHING to do with this case. Well, legal or not, he fought with an officer and brandished a weapon. What was supposed to happen? What other possible outcome could there be? In the first video you can see the gun. Watch at the end whe they halo the gun. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 Yes, he stood there with both arms out even where being pepper sprayed. Not aggressive. They took him down, beat him, took the gun from his holster, THEN shot him. Murder. This is a fascist government that is terrorizing and murdering its citizens. That's the point we've reached. 1 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 8 minutes ago, Hodad said: Yes, he stood there with both arms out even where being pepper sprayed. Not aggressive. They took him down, beat him, took the gun from his holster, THEN shot him. Murder. This is a fascist government that is terrorizing and murdering its citizens. That's the point we've reached. Does it not bother you that you have to lie to make your position tenable? 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said: Does it not bother you that you have to lie to make your position tenable? The is no lie there. Those are the facts. The are multiple videos from multiple angles. That's exactly what happened. The Trump administration is brazenly lying. This was a murder in broad daylight by fascist thugs who were angry about being filmed. 1 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 Just now, Hodad said: The is no lie there. Those are the facts. The are multiple videos from multiple angles. That's exactly what happened. I posted videos and none of that happened. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 Just now, gatomontes99 said: I posted videos and none of that happened. You're completely farking delusional. Every bit of that happened. Let me tell you how this is going to play out. All of you who have swallowed the administration's fictional account are digging in. Eventually you'll watch all the footage, and realize that you were unbelievably wrong, but by that point you'll have invested in the fiction and your defense of it so much that you won't have the courage to admit what was obvious. 1 Quote
User Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, Hodad said: You're completely farking delusional. Every bit of that happened. Let me tell you how this is going to play out. All of you who have swallowed the administration's fictional account are digging in. Eventually you'll watch all the footage, and realize that you were unbelievably wrong, but by that point you'll have invested in the fiction and your defense of it so much that you won't have the courage to admit what was obvious. How will you know when you are too big of a cowrad to see my comments? Quote
Hodad Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 16 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: I posted videos and none of that happened. Agent in gray jacket takes Pretti's gun out of the holster and carries it away from the attack. Not only did Pretti not brandish the weapon, he didn't unholster it. They did. And carried it away. Then shot him over and over again. They executed an unarmed man in the street. Now go lie about it some more. 1 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Hodad said: You're completely farking delusional. Every bit of that happened. Let me tell you how this is going to play out. All of you who have swallowed the administration's fictional account are digging in. Eventually you'll watch all the footage, and realize that you were unbelievably wrong, but by that point you'll have invested in the fiction and your defense of it so much that you won't have the courage to admit what was obvious. Here is the gun falling out of his hand as he gets shot: Here is the long video of him assaulting some random woman: There is a video of an agent running away with a gun. It may have been the assailants. It may not. If it was, we know another gun fell from his hand as he was shot. Also, the agent ran as shots were fired, not before. 4 minutes ago, Hodad said: Agent in gray jacket takes Pretti's gun out of the holster and carries it away from the attack. Not only did Pretti not brandish the weapon, he didn't unholster it. They did. And carried it away. Then shot him over and over again. They executed an unarmed man in the street. Now go lie about it some more. Thats a lie. I posted the video that definitively showed the gun falling from his hand. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Hodad said: Agent in gray jacket takes Pretti's gun out of the holster and carries it away from the attack. Not only did Pretti not brandish the weapon, he didn't unholster it. They did. And carried it away. Then shot him over and over again. They executed an unarmed man in the street. Now go lie about it some more. No, you calling it an execution is a lie. That is you using sensationalized language and adding more fuel to the fire. Even if we presume you are right, and the facts bear this out, all the chaos unfolding in the moment, we are all sitting here for hours looking at this video in slow motion frame by frame, the Officers in the middle of fighting with him don't know that or see that. Quote
Hodad Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 (edited) 12 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Here is the gun falling out of his hand as he gets shot: Here is the long video of him assaulting some random woman: There is a video of an agent running away with a gun. It may have been the assailants. It may not. If it was, we know another gun fell from his hand as he was shot. Also, the agent ran as shots were fired, not before. Thats a lie. I posted the video that definitively showed the gun falling from his hand. No you did not. You may be seeing him drop his phone. You may be seeing someone else drop something, but incontrovertibly the agent in the gray jacket took Pretti's gun from the holster and carried it away. Plain as day. Exactly at I said, you're entrenched now. You'll say the sky is neon green before you admit the plain truth that everyone can see. This is exactly like when people tried to pretend that it didn't rain during Trump's inauguration just because he said it didn't rain. Don't believe your eyes. Believe Trump! 🙄 Edited January 25 by Hodad 1 Quote
User Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Hodad said: No you did not. You may be seeing him drop his phone. You may be seeing someone else drop something, but incontrovertibly the agent in the gray jacket took To Pretti's gun from the holster and carried it away. Plain as day. Exactly at I said, you're entrenched now. You'll day the sky is neon green before you admit the plain truth that everyone can see. This is exactly like when people tried to pretend that it didn't rain during Trump's inauguration just because he said it didn't rain. Don't believe your eyes. Believe Trump! 🙄 No, you are a coward hiding from me. Even if the facts bear this out, expecting the other agents to see that and know that and then accusing them of executing the person is YOU being entrenched in your own stupid, disgusting bias. Quote
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