Goddess Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: your characterization of lefties, immigrants and the entire issue is just ridiculous. It's the left opposing deportations. 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: I have no idea what the proportion of molesters to ordinary people is but you talk as if it's much higher amongst immigrants. Do you have any sort of data that justifies your characterization? WTF are you talking about? I never said anything of the sort. Find the quote where I said "immigrants have higher rates of child molesting." And "immigrants" are not what the problem is here. It's "illegals". You can have your belief that flinging open the borders to everyone with little to no vetting is a good thing, and others are allowed to believe it is not. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Nationalist Posted January 10 Author Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, robosmith said: You're an lDIOT if you believe anyone in government is listening to you. Enjoy... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pauses-10-billion-public-assistance-funding-democratic-states/ Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ironstone Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 33 minutes ago, eyeball said: I have no idea what the proportion of molesters to ordinary people is but you talk as if it's much higher amongst immigrants. Do you have any sort of data that justifies your characterization? Those stats may not be published in the US as they are in some other nations and therefore may be harder to find. Someone else in here posted numbers for the UK as an example. Statistics on Sex Crimes by Nationality in the UK Recent reports indicate that non-British citizens are significantly more likely to be convicted of sex crimes compared to British citizens. Here are the key points based on the latest data: Nationality Sex Crime Convictions (2021-2023) Conviction Rate Afghans 77 59 per 10,000 Eritreans 54 54 per 10,000 Romanians 987 Not specified Polish 208 Not specified Total Foreigners 15% of sex crimes in UK 9.3% of the population Key Findings Higher Likelihood: Reports indicate that non-GB citizens are 71% more likely to be responsible for sex crime convictions than British nationals. For Germany: Recent Trends in Sex Crimes in Germany There has been a notable increase in sexual crimes in Germany, especially in the years leading up to 2026. The following statistics highlight key findings regarding sex crimes, including the nationality of offenders. Increase in Non-German Involvement: The statistics reveal that a significant proportion of the suspects in sexual crimes are non-German. Interior Minister Nancy Faeser pointed out that more than one-third of suspects did not have German citizenship. Lot's of Renee Good's out there. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, West said: WRONG duh ^IGNORANT, Duh Quote
eyeball Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: It's the left opposing deportations. Not of molesters. 9 minutes ago, Goddess said: WTF are you talking about? I never said anything of the sort. Find the quote where I said "immigrants have higher rates of child molesting." You certainly implied it in your characterization of the left as molester supporters. 13 minutes ago, Goddess said: And "immigrants" are not what the problem is here. It's "illegals". You can have your belief that flinging open the borders to everyone with little to no vetting is a good thing, and others are allowed to believe it is not. Sure, but now this mean millions of people have to pay in terms of terror at the hands of the federal government. In many cases families who have been here for years that are now faulted for simply being here often for years and decades. The sheer scope of the job to deport some 11 million people makes it impossible to expect it can be done gently, especially in light of an impatience that's morphed into a desire to see deportations carried out with extreme prejudice. I have no problem whatsoever characterizing you people as monsters. Which only makes it easier to have little problem granting almost all illegals amnesty. Notwithstanding molesters, just to rub it in your noses. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, West said: Not MAGA liars. Video evidence from multiple angles shows she and her gay lover were unlawfully impeding law enforcement, then she sped away and hit an officer with her vehicle. IF ^this were true you could have posted that video and there's a reason why YOU DID NOT. Is it LAZY or LYING? LMAO Quote
eyeball Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 28 minutes ago, Goddess said: It's the left opposing deportations. Not of molesters. 28 minutes ago, Goddess said: WTF are you talking about? I never said anything of the sort. Find the quote where I said "immigrants have higher rates of child molesting." You certainly implied it in your characterization of the left as molester supporters. 28 minutes ago, Goddess said: And "immigrants" are not what the problem is here. It's "illegals". You can have your belief that flinging open the borders to everyone with little to no vetting is a good thing, and others are allowed to believe it is not. Sure, but now this mean millions of ordinary people have to pay in terms of terror at the hands of the federal government. In many cases families who have been here for years that are now faulted for simply being here, often for years and decades now. The sheer scope of the job to deport some 11 million people makes it impossible to expect it can be done gently, especially in light of an impatience that's morphed into a desire to see deportations carried out with extreme prejudice. I have no problem whatsoever characterizing you people as monsters. Which only makes it easier to have little problem granting almost all illegals amnesty. Notwithstanding molesters, just to rub it in your noses. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, ironstone said: He had been convicted. Key Criminal Incidents Conviction for Sexual Offenses: In December 2022, Munoz-Guatemala was convicted in Hennepin County, Minnesota, for repeatedly sexually abusing a minor. He was found guilty of Fourth-Degree Criminal Sexual Conduct, a felony. Assault on a Federal Officer: On June 17, 2025, Munoz-Guatemala was involved in a violent incident where he assaulted a federal officer during an immigration enforcement action. After being stopped by law enforcement officers, he refused to comply with orders and drove away, dragging a federal agent along with his vehicle for over 100 yards. This incident resulted in significant injuries to the officer. Legal Status: As a convicted sex offender, Munoz-Guatemala was illegally present in the United States at the time of both his conviction and the assault on the federal officer. Even after doing this things, he was released. Roberto Carlos Munoz-Guatemala was initially released after being convicted of sexually abusing a minor due to a denial of a detainer order by local law enforcement. Despite a 2022 conviction for repeatedly sexually abusing his 16-year-old stepdaughter, Munoz was free when law enforcement attempted to arrest him on an immigration order in June 2025. Once again, I must point out that this is the man that Renee Good was trying to protect from being deported. Too bad you have NO VIDEO of that "protect." Quote
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 32 minutes ago, John Stone said: The current political landscape in the U.S. reflects a complex and destructive interplay of ideological and affective polarization which contributes to the feeling of being trodden on by those political hacks in power. It is a sentiment (?) that can be stoked and used effectively politically - it works. It worked for the Right political hacks and now it's working for the Left political hacks. Contributing to the sentiment amongst the Left now, is the judicious use of Executive Power (E.O.)....... arguably and considering the paralysis of Congress they're likely a godsend to getting anything done - and the President is perfectly in his right to implement this end-run around those useless debating fools. He is in violation of the Constitution and it's requirements to wait for Congressional approval. The only reason he's not impeached is the FAILURE of Congressional RepubliCONS. 20 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Enjoy... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pauses-10-billion-public-assistance-funding-democratic-states/ Enjoying your FAILURE to prove anyone is listening to YOU, dropout. 1 Quote
User Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 37 minutes ago, John Stone said: The current political landscape in the U.S. reflects a complex and destructive interplay of ideological and affective polarization which contributes to the feeling of being trodden on by those political hacks in power. We are talking about ICE enforcing federal laws against Illegal Immigrants. How is some white woman trying to interfere in this being trodden on by anyone and how does that make anyone a political hack for wanting to enforce these laws? Is this what you believe is happening? 8 minutes ago, robosmith said: Too bad you have NO VIDEO of that "protect." What kind of demented, sick pervert are you? You people really don't give a shit at all about how many people, children included, are raped or murdered so long as you get to defend your open borders madness. 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, but now this mean millions of ordinary people have to pay in terms of terror at the hands of the federal government. In many cases families who have been here for years that are now faulted for simply being here, often for years and decades now. Or they can voluntarily self deport like the million who have already done so. All illegals should be deported if they refuse to abide by immigration laws and court ordered removals. Sympathy is not cheap...there are too many associated crimes that stem from their illegal status and employment barriers. Days...months...years...doesn't matter. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Goddess Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, but now this mean millions of people have to pay in terms of terror at the hands of the federal government. In many cases families who have been here for years that are now faulted for simply being here often for years and decades. If Americans don't like the laws about illegal immigrants, they should change them. Even the Democrats did not do that the entire time they were in power. It all boils down to this, IMO - If she had stopped her car and gotten out of the vehicle when she was ordered to, would she still have been shot? 2 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Goddess said: If Americans don't like the laws about illegal immigrants, they should change them. Even the Democrats did not do that the entire time they were in power. Very true...President Obama deported millions of illegals...far more than Trump. Obama was the Deporter in Chief. Quote AI Overview "Deporter in chief" was a label used by immigrant rights advocates and Latino advocacy groups to criticize President Barack Obama's record-high number of deportations. During his eight years in office, the Obama administration formally removed more than 3 million noncitizens, a record for an American president at the time. Record Numbers: The Obama administration's peak was fiscal year 2012, with more than 407,000 people removed, a higher annual total than under presidents George W. Bush or Donald Trump's first term. Advocate Criticism: Groups like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the National Council of La Raza (now UnidosUS) publicly dubbed him "deporter in chief," arguing that his administration was tearing families apart and focusing on speed over fairness in the removal process. Enforcement Priorities: The administration implemented calibrated enforcement priorities, focusing resources on deporting noncitizens with criminal records or those who had recently crossed the border, rather than a blanket approach. However, analyses showed that many of those deported had committed only minor offenses, not serious crimes. Political Strategy: Some commentators suggested the high deportation numbers were part of a strategy to show the administration was tough on immigration enforcement, in an attempt to win Republican support for comprehensive immigration reform legislation—a strategy that ultimately did not succeed in the House. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Or they can voluntarily self deport like the million who have already done so. All illegals should be deported if they refuse to abide by immigration laws and court ordered removals. Sympathy is not cheap...there are too many associated crimes that stem from their illegal status and employment barriers. Days...months...years...doesn't matter. Apparently you are IGNROANT of all those immigrants who were detained at the courthouse where they showed up for their ASYLUM HEARINGS and deported. Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 Obama deported more people than Trump without needing to resort to terrorizing neighbourhoods, brownshirts marching through the streets or shooting moms. How? Quote
robosmith Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 11 minutes ago, Goddess said: If Americans don't like the laws about illegal immigrants, they should change them. Even the Democrats did not do that the entire time they were in power. It all boils down to this, IMO - If she had stopped her car and gotten out of the vehicle when she was ordered to, would she still have been shot? Would you jump out of YOUR CAR on the command of a masked stranger? Like she said, they could just go to her RESIDENCE since they had her Vehicle LICENSE. Quote
Goddess Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 (edited) 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: Would you jump out of YOUR CAR on the command of a masked stranger? Of course not. But it wasn't a masked stranger. It was a bunch of clearly marked law enforcement officers that she had been antagonizing the entire morning. 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: they could just go to her RESIDENCE since they had her Vehicle LICENSE. Or they could arrest her or give her a warning on the spot. THEY get to choose. She was told to exit the vehicle, she chose instead to disobey, speed up and drive away, while her lover cheered her on to "Drive! Drive!" Edited January 10 by Goddess Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 9 minutes ago, robosmith said: Apparently you are IGNROANT of all those immigrants who were detained at the courthouse where they showed up for their ASYLUM HEARINGS and deported. Good...most asylum claims are denied. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CdnFox Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 6 hours ago, West said: Good pointed their vehicle at Ross and pinned it after being confronted for committing a felony and attempting to impede law enforcement. Luckily Ross was able to get out of the way He wasn't exactly, he did get hit. Was treated in hospital after. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
gatomontes99 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Lie. You need to get your eyes checked out. Reality. You need to get your eyes checked. 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: Which way were her wheels turned? Not relevant. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Obama deported more people than Trump without needing to resort to terrorizing neighbourhoods, brownshirts marching through the streets or shooting moms. How? This is how..... The Border Patrol Was Monstrous Under Obama. Imagine How Bad It Is Under Trump. https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/border-patrol-was-monstrous-under-obama-imagine 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CdnFox Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 39 minutes ago, eyeball said: Not of molesters. You certainly implied it in your characterization of the left as molester supporters. Clinton, Biden, and not a word from a single democrat about why this may or may not be a good thing. And that's just the start. So it's not without merit Quote Sure, but now this mean millions of people have to pay in terms of terror at the hands of the federal government. In many cases families who have been here for years that are now faulted for simply being here often for years and decades. How many million times have you been told that if you swing the pendulum too far one way when it swings back you're going to regret it. And that's what's happening now. American left-wing nut bars demanded open borders, did nothing to stem the flow of illegals, let things get right out of control and denied there was any problem when there was very clearly a problem. And then scream bloody blue murder the first time trump got in claiming he was doing things that were so horrible and unacceptable but we're actually exactly the same things that Obama had done and that later Biden would do again. Many flouted the law entirely. Declaring sanctuary cities and such were basically the laws didn't matter Now things have swung the other way. Now there's no mercy, now there is no reasonable debate opportunity because you guys spent so long being complete tards about it But after the let trump get away with literally anything if it brings it back balance. This is 100% a result of the left activities and it was said to you a trillion times over. It is unfortunate that the left has decided to behave in this egregious fashion in the past but now you're going to have to suffer through the current egregious Behavior as a result . Aren't you the one that keeps screaming that the right should be "Doing something" about the left if we're serious? Welcome to something Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
TreeBeard Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: This is how..... The Border Patrol Was Monstrous Under Obama. Imagine How Bad It Is Under Trump. https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/border-patrol-was-monstrous-under-obama-imagine So Obama concentrated on the border, while Trump sends brownshirts to shoot moms in Minnesota. Which is more effective? (Rhetorical… evidence is obvious) 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 Just now, TreeBeard said: So Obama concentrated on the border, while Trump sends brownshirts to shoot moms in Minnesota. Which is more effective? (Rhetorical… evidence is obvious) We can have both...and should have both. Police kill about 1,000 Americans each year...including moms. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CdnFox Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Reality. You need to get your eyes checked. Not relevant. As this video shows it is crystal clear she backed up, aligned the vehicle with the officer, move forward and struck him. That absolutely happens and he was absolutely right to fire upon her And here's another factor that this guy was entirely aware of. That woman in this video that's harassing him and telling him to go to lunch, that's the dead woman's wife. You can hear from the conversation that she's already explained she's with this woman, commenting that they don't change their license plates regular and such, so when this woman accelerated her vehicle her life partner was outside of the vehicle. Now if all you're attempting to do is drive away do you leave your wife behind? That'd be pretty cool wouldn't it. So this guy knows that the wife is outside of the vehicle and this woman is driving her car, it's pretty obvious she's not planning on just driving away and leaving her spouse there. And don't tell me it's not relevant, anybody who thinks that this guy is going to be able to bend down and see what direction her tires are pointed in and that that's relevant can't possibly argue that knowing that the wife is outside of the vehicle and this woman isn't just trying to leave has to accept that this has got to be 100% relevant 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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