ICE Finally Fires Back!

[Radiorum]

It's amazing the contortions some of you are doing in order to cast the murdered woman as the "bad guy."

It's equally amazing that you fall for the propaganda of the Trump administration.

 

Anyway, I dug up a recruitment poster for the Gestapo.

The translation is "The police on frontline duty."

 

ICE recruitment kind of takes the same theme, proud men with their guns. But, in the ICE poster, they show a father and a son. "Hey Dad, let's go and harass a bunch of people together! Maybe we'll get to shoot them!"

 

[User]

49 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

It's amazing the contortions some of you are doing in order to cast the murdered woman as the "bad guy."

Name the contortions. Let's see your fact-based, logical argument. 

Throughout this thread I have presented the facts, but instead of dealing with those, you have to resort to hasty generalizations about the thread instead.

50 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

ICE recruitment kind of takes the same theme, proud men with their guns. But, in the ICE poster, they show a father and a son. "Hey Dad, let's go and harass a bunch of people together! Maybe we'll get to shoot them!"

See how pathetically desperate you have to be that you have to make up crap like this. 

 

[Radiorum]

7 minutes ago, User said:

Let's see your fact-based, logical argument. 

I am afraid it would be lost on you. I like to think you are an average guy who has lost his way, an average guy who has been led astray. What happened to Renee Good cannot be allowed to happen in a free society.

[User]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I am afraid it would be lost on you. I like to think you are an average guy who has lost his way, an average guy who has been led astray. What happened to Renee Good cannot be allowed to happen in a free society.

No, you just don't have one because the facts are not on your side. So these dishonest games are all you got. 

Renee Good was shot because she endangered an officer's life, and he acted in self-defense. 

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

It's amazing the contortions some of you are doing in order to cast the murdered woman as the "bad guy."

It's equally amazing that you fall for the propaganda of the Trump administration.

 

Anyway, I dug up a recruitment poster for the Gestapo.

The translation is "The police on frontline duty."

 

ICE recruitment kind of takes the same theme, proud men with their guns. But, in the ICE poster, they show a father and a son. "Hey Dad, let's go and harass a bunch of people together! Maybe we'll get to shoot them!"

 

Why do you want to protect the people shown in the link below and keep them in the US?

https://www.dhs.gov/wow?combine=&field_country_of_origin_target_id=All&field_state_value=All

[Radiorum]

15 minutes ago, User said:

Renee Good was shot because she endangered an officer's life, and he acted in self-defense. 

This is not true.

4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Why do you want to protect the people shown in the link below and keep them in the US?

https://www.dhs.gov/wow?combine=&field_country_of_origin_target_id=All&field_state_value=All

 

I see the propaganda is working on you

[User]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

This is not true.

It is on camera, multiple angles.

 

[ironstone]

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

This is not true.

 

I see the propaganda is working on you

Be honest. Did you even check out the link? A database of illegal alien criminals caught by ICE. 

And if you did, your response is even more disturbing.

I'll ask again, do you want to keep these criminals in the US and if so, why?

[Radiorum]

Just now, ironstone said:

A database of illegal alien criminals caught by ICE. 

get the criminals!

But that does not include Renee Good!

 

 

[Hodad]

14 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Be honest. Did you even check out the link? A database of illegal alien criminals caught by ICE. 

And if you did, your response is even more disturbing.

I'll ask again, do you want to keep these criminals in the US and if so, why?

This is just another massive (and comically bad) straw man argument. Can you find evidence anywhere of someone fighting to keep non-citizen criminals free in the US? On this forum? 

No, of course not. 

People object to the tactics ICE is using. The masks, the brutality, the abductions, the fear on the streets of US cities that makes decent people afraid to send their kids to school. 

Nobody is rooting for child molesters to stay here and you should be embarrassed and ashamed for trying to claim that they are. It's cheap and dumb. 

It's also the exact same crap you try to pull with Israel and Palestine. You want to pretend that objecting to wanton slaughter of innocent makes one pro-terrorist.  Grow the fark up. Do better. 

Edited January 12 by Hodad

[ironstone]

8 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

get the criminals!

But that does not include Renee Good!

 

 

She was impeding their operation in that neighborhood on that day. It's what she trained to do, however many minutes that may have taken. The person most responsible for the death of Renee Good is Renee Good.

1. Obstruction of Justice: Under federal law, obstructing an officer in the performance of their official duties is a serious offense. This includes actions such as physically blocking ICE agents, providing false information, or using intimidation to prevent an arrest. Depending on the circumstances, individuals could face misdemeanor or felony charges, leading to fines and potential jail time.

2. Aiding and Abetting/Harboring: Individuals who provide assistance to someone evading arrest, whether through transportation, shelter, or other means, may also face legal repercussions. Under federal law, this can be viewed as aiding and abetting a fugitive, which is a criminal offense. Federal law also prohibits harboring of an undocumented immigrant. Under this law, individuals who shield an undocumented immigrant from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield an undocumented immigrant from detection could face felony charges. 

You say 'get the criminals!' , but you don't see the hypocrisy of people like Renee Good going out and trying everything they can to impede the apprehension of these same criminals.

ICE was after someone that had sexually abused a minor that day. Whether she knew it or not, Renee Good's actions that day were designed to aid that man in escaping justice.

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Renee Good's actions that day were designed to aid that man in escaping justice.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself those lies so you can live with yourself

[ironstone]

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Can you find evidence anywhere of someone fighting to keep non-citizen criminals free in the US? On this forum? 

No, of course not. 

As I just explained in detail, ICE was looking for one Roberto Munoz who was convicted of sexually assaulting a minor. He is by your own definition, a non-citizen criminal. Renee Good, by doing what she did on that day, was actively trying to ensure this man was not caught by ICE.

There are loads of people all over the US trying to impede ICE in any way they can. That's a pretty clear signal that they do not want anyone deported.

There are people on this forum that have been highly critical of ICE, even comparing them to the Gestapo. They do not like what ICE agents are doing even while they put their lives on the line trying to catch these dangerous illegals.

[Radiorum]

17 minutes ago, ironstone said:

There are loads of people all over the US trying to impede ICE in any way they can. That's a pretty clear signal that they do not want anyone deported.

have you any idea how the operations of ICE have changed under the Trump regime?

Are you aware that there were many deportations that happened under previous administrations?

Are you aware there is a way to conduct the operations of ICE without putting Gestapo in the streets?

 

[User]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

get the criminals!

But that does not include Renee Good!

 

 

It’s against the law to obstruct federal law enforcement.

its against the law to flee and evade federal law enforcement.

It’s against the law to threaten federal law enforcement lives with your vehicle. 

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, User said:

It’s against the law to obstruct federal law enforcement.

its against the law to flee and evade federal law enforcement.

It’s against the law to threaten federal law enforcement lives with your vehicle. 

You need to get better sources. She did not obstruct, flee, evade or threaten.

Several military and police voices have joined the conversation and they all say this was an unjustified killing

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

It's amazing the contortions some of you are doing in order to cast the murdered woman as the "bad guy."

 

 

She drove her car at a cop and got shot. These are undisputable facts

The contortions come when you try and twist that into something it isn't and claim that somehow she wasn't driving the car or something

She willfully drove the car into a cop and died.  THat doesn't make her a bad person per se but it does mean she absolutely should have been shot by the officer. 

She created the situation and she paid the price.  And i note most people here agree she was probably a good person, but that doesn't change the facts. 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You need to get better sources. She did not obstruct, flee, evade or threaten.

 

She obstructed -  that's why they moved to arrest her. 

She attempted to flee, that's what it's called when a police officer tells you to get out of the car and place you under arrest but you attempt to leave. 

She absolutely did threaten, she drove her car directly at a cop and struck him. That is EXTREMELY threatening, ,

You seem to be at a point where you think lying to yourself about what happened will make you feel better. I can't imagine why. 

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The contortions come when you try and twist that into something it isn't and claim that somehow she wasn't driving the car or something

She willfully drove the car into a cop and died.  THat doesn't make her a bad person per se but it does mean she absolutely should have been shot by the officer. 

She created the situation and she paid the price.  And i note most people here agree she was probably a good person, but that doesn't change the facts. 

 

Those are not the facts. get your head out of your ass.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

I am afraid it would be lost on you. 

in other words you don't have one and you want that to be his fault.

Typical leftist. 

3 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 

Those are not the facts. get your head out of your ass.

Those are absolutely the facts and crying about it won't help. The videos are clear, there is no refuting those facts. 

Why is it you on the left always throw facts, science and reason in the garbage the moment they don't support your ideology?

[Radiorum]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

in other words you don't have one and you want that to be his fault.

No, that was the voice of experience.

 

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Typical leftist. 

Don't make the mistake of thinking you know me

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

get the criminals!

But that does not include Renee Good!

 

 

Yes it does. WHen you strike a cop with your car after they've told you to get out of the vehicle you're a criminal. 

[Radiorum]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

WHen you strike a cop with your car

Stop it! She did not strike him. he was able to keep taking video of her, and pull out his gun and shoot her!

 

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

after they've told you to get out of the vehicle

She was told conflicting things. One ICE told her to get out of the car, another told her to leave

 

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

you're a criminal. 

So you deserve to die???????????

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Stop it! She did not strike him.

She absolutely struck him, you can see it in the video from his perspective, he went to the hospital and was treated, virtually every party involved including the left and the right agree that the vehicle hit him

You're lying your ass off now and it just makes you look stupid. There's no arguing this, she hit him

8 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

She was told conflicting things. One ICE told her to get out of the car, another told her to leave

Absolutely no ice officers told her to leave. Only one was talking to her and they told her to get the hell out of the car and to turn it off. Instead she Backed up, brought her car in line with the officer who was to her front and accelerated and struck him. And she got killed which is appropriate

It was her wife that told her to 'drive baby drive'. Now the wife is making good money taking interviews. Should have listened to the cops. 

9 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

So you deserve to die

If you're doing something that is threatening the life and safety of other people including an officer who's armed then you're going to probably get shot, and you might very well die. And yes, you deserve to get shot in that situation.  Sorry 

If that's unacceptable, then your other choice is to listen to police, do what they say, and consider your legal recourse after the fact if you feel they're in the wrong.  Unfortunately she chose to drive into a cop. So she got shot and he was absolutely right to do so. 

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

It's amazing the contortions some of you are doing in order to cast the murdered woman as the "bad guy."

It's equally amazing that you fall for the propaganda of the Trump administration.

 

Anyway, I dug up a recruitment poster for the Gestapo.

The translation is "The police on frontline duty."

 

ICE recruitment kind of takes the same theme, proud men with their guns. But, in the ICE poster, they show a father and a son. "Hey Dad, let's go and harass a bunch of people together! Maybe we'll get to shoot them!"

 

See my sig line.