bush_cheney2004 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) 3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: America circling the drain with these knuckle-draggers in charge. Good luck with the entire world against you... No luck required...the "world" (especially NATO deadbeat Canada) values the knuckle-dragging devil it knows far more than the unknown alternatives. No country more than Canada has hitched itself to the fortunes and foibles of the United States for so long, and it will continue to do so because Canada has no better choice. Edited January 9 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Nationalist Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 8 hours ago, cougar said: Russia hands down! They have not threatened to make you their next republic; neither have invaded other nations just to steal their resources. Interesting call. My wife might actually agree with you. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No luck required...the "world" (especially NATO deadbeat Canada) values the knuckle-dragging devil it knows far more than the unknown alternatives. No country more than Canada has hitched itself to the fortunes and foibles of the United States for so long, and it will continue to do so because Canada has no better choice. Aside from the childish comments of @Moonlight Graham, I'd tend to agree with you. As the US goes, as does Canada. However, @cougar makes a good point. Who can we trust? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: ... Who can we trust? The most important thing to trust is yourself...Canada should start there. The rest will follow. Doesn't have to be unwavering nationalism like the Americans, but it has to be something. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Nationalist Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The most important thing to trust is yourself...Canada should start there. The rest will follow. Doesn't have to be unwavering nationalism like the Americans, but it has to be something. Trust myself? My senses and experiences tell me Canada is a lost cause. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) Russia is most definitely interested in the Arctic - specifically the continental shelf. In 2021 they filed a submission to the U.N. to extend a claim to the Arctic seabed. The new submission would push Russia's claim all the way up to Canada's exclusive economic zone, an area 200 nautical miles from the coastline, in which Canadians have sole rights to fish, drill and pursue other economic activities. A situation where Russia is claiming the entire Canadian and Danish continental shelf as part of THEIR continental shelf. Holy South China Sea - 9 dash line debate, Batman! The North West Passage (contested) will increasingly become more strategic ........... esp for China. ? What other routes? Panama Canal / Suez Both Greenland and Panama would be strategic moves - Global leverage aside - Greenland provides a huge reserve of Rare Earth. Edited January 9 by John Stone Quote
paxamericana Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 13 minutes ago, John Stone said: Greenland provides a huge reserve of Rare Earth. Rare earth isn’t rare it’s the processing that is the bottleneck. Quote
John Stone Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 8 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Rare earth isn’t rare it’s the processing that is the bottleneck. Good point, the US can process rare earth elements, but it currently lacks the extensive refining infrastructure needed to do so - ergo relying heavily on imports, particularly from China. The U.S. with its focus on fossil fuels is getting farther away from possessing that refining capability and it's moot anyway, China has the lion's portion of Global reserve and baby, they're driving hard $$. Quote
John Stone Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 17 hours ago, robosmith said: EVs are evolving rapidly. Reduction in REE requirements (esp Lithium) means much lower reliance on REE. ........... yeah, what country has the Global reserve for Lithium? Quote
John Stone Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 12 hours ago, TreeBeard said: That kind of hubris always rears its head every few years with some whacky world leader. They never learn from history though. No country of any significance has managed to impose their will on their own nation, let alone nations they choose to invade for long and not without making them poor. China has never been as wealthy as when they opened up to the rest of the world. And if they decide imperialism is the way to go, then the world stops buying their stuff and they become poor again. Russia had a good run for 4 decades with their populace behind the iron curtain facing bread lines. Their economy is retracting as the west stops buying their stuff and their mighty military can’t even take but a small portion of Ukraine. Cooperation and trade has made the USA the richest country ever. War and strife will end that. Jingoistic fools cheer this behaviour on. Kind of ironic that all that destruction made the U.S. the most economically powerful country in the World - the US rebuilt Europe and Japan but a workman must draw a fair wage for his toil? My fav is the 'Berlin Airlift' - epic, defined determination. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 hour ago, John Stone said: My fav is the 'Berlin Airlift' - epic, defined determination. Absolutely stunning achievements by the Allies in WW2 in the face of anhiliation. But as I have explained this was a different world... "America" of that era, "Russia" of that era, "Canada" of that era.... they are as relevant to today's country as our grandparents are to us. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Goddess Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: But as I have explained this was a different world... "America" of that era, "Russia" of that era, "Canada" of that era.... they are as relevant to today's country as our grandparents are to us. This is actually a good point. I think it also reflects that "war" is different now, too. You can destroy a country as much economically, by undermining its' social fabric and infiltrating government, business and real estate. And far less costly than with conventional warfare. You can then just sit back and wait for them weaken. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
John Stone Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Absolutely stunning achievements by the Allies in WW2 in the face of anhiliation. But as I have explained this was a different world... "America" of that era, "Russia" of that era, "Canada" of that era.... they are as relevant to today's country as our grandparents are to us. ............ what is amazing is that post WWII the royal 'they' got it right - won the peace and ruled the World for 70 years. As you implied, changes are approaching apace - when Giants Fall. Economics will determine the winner in terms of global influence. Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 20 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: MAGA voters count too...you lost. Unfortunate that the easily DUPED can vote. And that pathological LIARS can run. Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 19 hours ago, Nationalist said: Because Canada is not capable and the other option is Russia. Take your pick. You ever heard of Alaska?, dropout Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 18 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: For the same reason that the USA needed Iceland to "manage" the GIUK gap during the Cold War. Geography matters, and the United States has enjoyed and seeks to continue exploiting geographic advantage for bases, power projection, logistics, intelligence gathering, etc. Except NOW we have nuclear aircraft carriers and subs which can remain ON STATION indefinitely. Progress! has passed you by and made your POV anachronistic. 18 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No one has invaded...but the U.S. has long maintained contingency plans to do so...long before Trump. Canada already knows this. Too bad you have NO EVIDENCE of ^this secret plan to invade Canada. Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 18 hours ago, Nationalist said: I dont think "the allied countries" could manage their own countries. Hell i dont even think they're very good allies. There are protests and riots regularly in most large EU cities. Big ones. Lots of people who never get to be on TV news...for some reason... No on needed to invade the USA either. But if I remember correctly, Libbies like you loved it. Grow up. You need to grow up and understand that protests are not a threat to democracies, dropout. Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 15 hours ago, cougar said: Russia hands down! They have not threatened to make you their next republic; neither have invaded other nations just to steal their resources. Russia clearly want to steal Ukraine's resources; esp the huge gas reserves off the Southern coast. And Poland better watch out since their discover of huge oil reserves recently. 14 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No luck required...the "world" (especially NATO deadbeat Canada) values the knuckle-dragging devil it knows far more than the unknown alternatives. No country more than Canada has hitched itself to the fortunes and foibles of the United States for so long, and it will continue to do so because Canada has no better choice. America accepts that because Canada is a huge buffer between us and Russia. Quote
eyeball Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) On 1/7/2026 at 10:48 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Falling nukes do not scare me...been there...done that (Cold War). The difference now is that people are willing to be red instead of dead. They're more fluid now and ok with the tyranny if it comes down to it. Edited January 9 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 On 1/8/2026 at 3:06 AM, Nationalist said: Not to protect Greenland. To manage the northern passage. They didn't need Iceland to grab a Russian tanker in the North Atlantic. I don't know why they felt they needed the Gulf of Mexico to grab them in the Gulf of America. To protect Venezuela maybe? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nationalist Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: They didn't need Iceland to grab a Russian tanker in the North Atlantic. I don't know why they felt they needed the Gulf of Mexico to grab them in the Gulf of America. To protect Venezuela maybe? Lol...yes eyeball...you're clueless? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 1 hour ago, robosmith said: You ever heard of Alaska?, dropout You ever heard of KY Jelly, Zucchini-boy? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Except NOW we have nuclear aircraft carriers and subs which can remain ON STATION indefinitely. Progress! has passed you by and made your POV anachronistic. Nope....had those during the Cold War too but still needed Naval Air Station Keflavik for P-3 Orion patrol aircraft. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
robosmith Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: You ever heard of KY Jelly, Zucchini-boy? ^Gratuitous lDIOCY has NOTHING to do with the subject, dropout. Quote
robosmith Posted January 9 Author Report Posted January 9 51 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Nope....had those during the Cold War too but still needed Naval Air Station Keflavik for P-3 Orion patrol aircraft. Obsolete Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Naval_Air_Station_Ke... Is there any US military in Iceland? U.S. Relationship The United States and Iceland signed a bilateral defense agreement in 1951; it remains in force, although U.S. military forces are no longer permanently stationed in Iceland. Quote
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