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Posted
9 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Where's the lie?

If he's saying they'll build a pipeline with no intention of building a pipeline that's the lie.

"A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton

Posted
19 hours ago, herbie said:

The normal people

Oh spare me your bitterness. You aren't interested in logical discussion, just regurgitating your hate online.

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"A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton

Posted
17 hours ago, I am Groot said:

If he's saying they'll build a pipeline with no intention of building a pipeline that's the lie.

But there is intention. Sorry to disappoint you. On second thought, not sorry.

Posted (edited)
23 hours ago, Venandi said:

....selling the buy back program as a reasonable and measured event would challenge a Fuller Brush Salesman.

At what point do Liberals become embarrassed by this?

Since this thread is about predictions, I'll predict that they will continue to defend this program and will stay the course to Crazy Island." This effort took place over a 6 week period, the target was to collect 200 guns (which is roughly 10% of the estimated total in the target area)... they got 25. 

Apparently it cost about $23,000 in administration and advertising, $40,000 in wages and an undisclosed buyback fee per qualifying rifle. Does anyone actually believe those numbers (especially the wages over a 6 week period)? I don't. 

There is no list of the actual models collected that I could find.... releasing that list was the easiest part of the entire effort and there was a reason they didn't do it.  Makes you wonder where the press is.

When I couldn't find anything I asked AI for a CBC report on the results of this effort, here's the reply:

It seems I'm unable to retrieve specific reports from the CBC regarding the Cape Breton pilot program for the gun buyback initiative at this time.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

But there is intention. Sorry to disappoint you. On second thought, not sorry.

The Carney's government in Canada is using pipeline discussions (like with Alberta) to gain political support or placate Western provinces, rather than genuinely intending to build them, as some critics see it as a political tactic ("vaporware") to distract from deeper federal-provincial divides and climate goals, not a real project plan. While there are agreements, critics suggest they are empty gestures, fueling frustration in Alberta despite promises, making the "intention" to build seem disingenuous, according to certain analyses. 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Legato said:

The Carney's government in Canada

The Carney has governments in other countries?

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

Posted
On 1/8/2026 at 12:48 PM, ExFlyer said:

May be an image of ‎text that says '‎PARTY RATINGS 38.4% PREFERRED PM 34.7% 11.3% % LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE NDP MARK PIERRE CARNEY POILIEVR 48:696smi27.6% 44 @ 27.6% שקעשו‎'‎

Meanwhile, In December 2025, Canada experienced a significant uptick in job losses, particularly among youth. Despite adding 8,200 jobs, the unemployment rate rose to 6.8%, up from 6.5% in November. 

Youth Employment: Approximately 27,000 jobs were lost among workers aged 15 to 24, which reversed some gains made in the previous months.

And as I had previously posted, Canada's per capita GDP has fallen for 6 consecutive quarters.

Also, many seniors in Canada are indeed feeling compelled to return to the workforce.

Not much of a record to boast about, yet there are clearly enough Canadians that are happy with his performance.

In other news, Carney is flying to China and apparently Michael Ma is going too. Why is Carney going? (Brookfield Asset Management has significant business interests in China, particularly focusing on the renewable energy sector and real estate investments.) 

Which country will Michael Ma be representing?🤔

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Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...

Posted
On 1/1/2026 at 9:23 AM, Barquentine said:

My predictions. How about yours?

The LPoC continue to lie and slander, CBC continues to back all of it.

CNN and MSNBC call everything that Trump does for the next 3 years racist.

Interest rates and inflation drive more Canadians into poverty while the media says "There's no inflation, but we blame Poilievre for what little inflation there actually is."

Polls have Liberals and Democrats up by 6.5% for the last two months of the next Canadian/US elections, but both of their leads fall to only 1.5% on the weekend of the election for no apparent reason, where they end up actually losing the popular vote. 

Carney gets caught in 3 more scandals, but the RCMP don't investigate, and CBC stops covering the biggest one after Carney says "I merely shoulda recused myself from the decision to assassinate Poilievre."

There will be a couple more shooters/bombers yell "allahoo akbar" while killing children, and liberal politicians will say: "It's too early to tell if it was a terrorist attack", while the CBC says of each case "Although the perp's parents, wives and children were muslims, he was not."

 

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If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
12 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Not much of a record to boast about, yet there are clearly enough Canadians that are happy with his performance.

The smart ones expected even worse.  And it will get worse…. Hence the need for “projects” funded by the folks who still have a job to help employee those who don’t.  
 

14 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Why is Carney going?

You don’t think the PM of Canada should be creating more trade routes for Canada?

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Posted
5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

The smart ones expected even worse.  And it will get worse…. Hence the need for “projects” funded by the folks who still have a job to help employee those who don’t.  
 

You don’t think the PM of Canada should be creating more trade routes for Canada?

So....things are bad..but if it wasn't for Mark Carney...things would be even worse?  Not exactly a great way to hype the worlds greatest economist.

Is Carney there for Canada or just to promote his Brookfield interests?

Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...

Posted
1 minute ago, ironstone said:

So....things are bad..but if it wasn't for Mark Carney...things would be even worse?  Not exactly a great way to hype the worlds greatest economist.

Is Carney there for Canada or just to promote his Brookfield interests?

Your conspiracies are lazy and uninteresting.  You’re smarter than this.  I’ve seen it in your posts.  You’re just angry about the Libs, gay marriage and all the stuff you feel you’ve lost to the rest of us over the years.  So you make up conspiracies. Or whatever it takes to “own the libs”. 
 

I suggest you debate more honestly on this forum.  It would be interesting.  

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Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Meanwhile, In December 2025, Canada experienced a significant uptick in job losses, particularly among youth. Despite adding 8,200 jobs, the unemployment rate rose to 6.8%, up from 6.5% in November. 

Youth Employment: Approximately 27,000 jobs were lost among workers aged 15 to 24, which reversed some gains made in the previous months.

And as I had previously posted, Canada's per capita GDP has fallen for 6 consecutive quarters.

Also, many seniors in Canada are indeed feeling compelled to return to the workforce.

Not much of a record to boast about, yet there are clearly enough Canadians that are happy with his performance.

In other news, Carney is flying to China and apparently Michael Ma is going too. Why is Carney going? (Brookfield Asset Management has significant business interests in China, particularly focusing on the renewable energy sector and real estate investments.

Which country will Michael Ma be representing?🤔

Who is "boasting"?

Just providing a poll indicating that people like the conservative party but do not like the leader...and I agree. 

I would vote conservative in a heartbeat but the leader is a loser...as have been their last 3 leaders. 

BTW, Brookfield Asset Management is one of the worlds largest biggest asset management companies and it invests over $1 trillion in real assets like infrastructure, renewable power, real estate, private equity, and credit for long-term wealth building for institutions and individuals. They were in business long before Carney was made a CEO and Prime Minister. They were doing business in the world for a very long time and continue to do so.

Michael Ma? The candidate that was cleared and vetted and parachuted into a GTA riding by the Conservative executive?

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You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted
15 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Your conspiracies are lazy and uninteresting.  You’re smarter than this.  I’ve seen it in your posts.  You’re just angry about the Libs, gay marriage and all the stuff you feel you’ve lost to the rest of us over the years.  So you make up conspiracies. Or whatever it takes to “own the libs”. 
 

I suggest you debate more honestly on this forum.  It would be interesting.  

I am merely going by the economic indicators for Canada. If Canada's economy was doing great  I would get on board with the Liberals. But there have been serious issues since they took over in 2015.

 

18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Michael Ma? The candidate that was cleared and vetted and parachuted into a GTA riding by the Conservative executive?

The Conservatives clearly have a lot of work to do in improving their vetting process. The Liberals are equally as bad at vetting candidates and that isn't good for Canadians.

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Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...

Posted
9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Just providing a poll indicating that people like the conservative party but do not like the leader...and I agree. 

I would vote conservative in a heartbeat but the leader is a loser

Likeability is subjective and easily biased.

Voting based on a person's "likeability" means you are prioritizing superficial traits, rather than how someone will govern.

Platforms determine policy outcome, not likeability.  Especially when your perception of a person's personality is so easily swayed by media framing.  The "marketing" part of elections is all about manipulating a candidate's personality to be palatable to the biggest number of people.

But when we vote, we're not choosing a dinner companion.  We're choosing the policies that will govern our lives.  That's why voting on a party's platform is far more reliable than voting on a person's likeability.

If your entire voting strategy is based on "I like this person", you're not taking the responsibilities of citizenship seriously.  elections are not popularity contests.

A charming personality doesn't fix infrastructure or balance budgets or determine tax policy.

It sounds like you treat elections like reality TV.

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"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
2 hours ago, eyeball said:

The Carney has governments in other countries?

Mostly in Europe.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, ironstone said:

I am merely going by the economic indicators for Canada. If Canada's economy was doing great  I would get on board with the Liberals. But there have been serious issues since they took over in 2015.

 

The Conservatives clearly have a lot of work to do in improving their vetting process. The Liberals are equally as bad at vetting candidates and that isn't good for Canadians.

I agree, the indicators are not ideal but, I also am aware, as you should be, that Trump has disrupted the economic indicators for most countries in the world right now.

I also know, as you are aware of as well, that what Carney is doing by travelling allover the world and meeting with the leaders of those countries that he is establishing relationship and future economic ties. 

You (we, he) cannot make changes immediately as there are already contracts and arrangements in place. What Carney is doing is placing us in a position to do the business in the future, and in some cases soon but certainly not immediately.

Yes, there have been issues since 2015. We had an oil price collapse in 2014 and that was never recovered for,. " Since 2015, global and Canadian economies faced issues like Since 2015, global and Canadian economies faced issues like COVID being the big one. 3 years of no economic stability has taken the world by surprise."

Having said that, it is no longer those times and had the conservatives had a leader and a believable plan...they would b government.

The conservatives are not the only ones with vetting issues, the liberals have, as well as the NDP but, the worst situation is with conservative leadership....there is non. What the conservatives have is a mini Trump and Canadians do not want to see that. ...I mean, to praise trump for invasion of Venezuela was not a smart thing to do.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Likeability is subjective and easily biased.

Voting based on a person's "likeability" means you are prioritizing superficial traits, rather than how someone will govern.

Platforms determine policy outcome, not likeability.  Especially when your perception of a person's personality is so easily swayed by media framing.  The "marketing" part of elections is all about manipulating a candidate's personality to be palatable to the biggest number of people.

But when we vote, we're not choosing a dinner companion.  We're choosing the policies that will govern our lives.  That's why voting on a party's platform is far more reliable than voting on a person's likeability.

If your entire voting strategy is based on "I like this person", you're not taking the responsibilities of citizenship seriously.  elections are not popularity contests.

A charming personality doesn't fix infrastructure or balance budgets or determine tax policy.

It sounds like you treat elections like reality TV.

Likeability is a very serious issue for the conservatives. They clearly would have formed the government  but people did not like PP and still do not.

I do not prioritize superficial traits but I do prioritize  the delivery of the policies and plans and if the communicator does not portray themselves as likeable and potential leadership value, then they lose...as they did. You are wrong when you say "Platforms determine policy outcome, not likeability." because if that was the case....PP would be Prime Minister.

A "charming" person is one that can sway voters as well as getting along will with other world leaders. PP will not even get  a security clearance so he can leave the country and meet with politicians from through out the world. So yes, being charming, (as well as credible) is very important on the world stage.

Lastly believe it or not, elections are "reality TV".... PP blew it...on TV

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You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted
1 hour ago, ironstone said:

I am merely going by the economic indicators for Canada. If Canada's economy was doing great  I would get on board with the Liberals. But there have been serious issues since they took over in 2015.

Economy isn’t doing great.   Everyone agrees!  Most people didn’t think the Cons would be better than the Libs.  Carney was clearly more qualified than PP.  

Every Conservative ever has said “we need a business leader as PM” and when one is elected, they make up conspiracies about how his business is profiting at our expense.  
 

There’s a lot wrong with the country without making up conspiracies.  

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I saw that one... not a revelation.

The issue here (as noted above), and what I was actually searching for (the point of the entire very expensive exercise BTW) is the models that were actually collected vs the 2500 rifles on the banned list. 

If you have a link for that I would very happy to read it... I had no luck finding it.

My guess is that it was a dumping ground for clapped out relics people were happy to dump... something akin to an amnesty.  

 

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Posted
22 minutes ago, Venandi said:

I saw that one... not a revelation.

The issue here (as noted above), and what I was actually searching for (the point of the entire very expensive exercise BTW) is the models that were actually collected vs the 2500 rifles on the banned list. 

If you have a link for that I would very happy to read it... I had no luck finding it.

My guess is that it was a dumping ground for clapped out relics people were happy to dump... something akin to an amnesty.  

 

Why did you think the cbc should have that info?

 

Who don’t you file an Access to Information Request?

Posted

Morel blathering about security clearances from someone who knows full well what being read into the foreign interference file entails. Getting this out of AI was like pulling teeth (or talking to Herb)... after much ado it finally relented and admitted the following.

Must have been a liberal that programmed this bitc%... I need a drink now:

If Poilievre had received full briefings on the foreign interference file, it would have significantly restricted his ability to speak freely, particularly if the information contained sensitive or classified details. In such cases, individuals with security clearance are often bound by non-disclosure agreements, which prevent them from sharing specific information or even acknowledging its existence in public discourse. This confidentiality can be seen as a form of "muzzling," where the individual is limited in their capacity to engage in political dialogue on certain topics. His choice not to pursue the clearance allows him to maintain a more outspoken stance on the issue, even if it means potentially lacking complete knowledge of the situation.

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Posted
58 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Likeability is a very serious issue for the conservatives. They clearly would have formed the government  but people did not like PP and still do not.

I do not prioritize superficial traits but I do prioritize  the delivery of the policies and plans and if the communicator does not portray themselves as likeable and potential leadership value, then they lose...as they did. You are wrong when you say "Platforms determine policy outcome, not likeability." because if that was the case....PP would be Prime Minister.

A "charming" person is one that can sway voters as well as getting along will with other world leaders. PP will not even get  a security clearance so he can leave the country and meet with politicians from through out the world. So yes, being charming, (as well as credible) is very important on the world stage.

Lastly believe it or not, elections are "reality TV".... PP blew it...on TV

None of that is true with you. You've been very clear. Also did you someone hack your account and start to teach you English or something? Kind of feels like maybe your mom wrote this for you :P 

For the last 2 years you have been all about the superficial traits. And in fact you have been about nothing other than superficial traits when it comes to Poilievre. And you make that statement and then you go on to talk about how important superficial traits are.

In any case harper was easily one of the best prime ministers we've ever had in this country, and he was not well liked nor was he charming. But it was good at his job.

Trudeau was charming. Carney is charming. Neither are good at their job

And sooner or later Canadians are going to really desperately want someone who's good at their job. Carney was able to gaslight people into thinking he was good at the job but they're very obviously beginning to realize he wasn't and that's why the liberal party and his personal numbers are beginning to sag a bit

 

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"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Why did you think the cbc should have that info?

Come on... Isn't that what the entire bloody exercise was about?

Isn't it the most basic of questions? Isn't that exactly what a grade 6 student would ask if a grade 6 student had the platform to ask the damn question?

Why should an ATIP be required to get the answer to a grade 6 question?

 

 

 

 

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