Potential for Poilievre to lose even more - another floor crosser crosses the floor

[Shady]

Staffers are resigning after the floor crossing.  What a sh!t show.

 

[TreeBeard]

21 minutes ago, Shady said:

Staffers are resigning after the floor crossing.  What a sh!t show.

 

Wouldn’t it be expected that a MP would need different staffers if they switch political parties?   How important do you think back-bench staffers are to the running of a government?  Would you even know any of PP’s staffers by name?  Would it matter to you if he got new ones?  
 

This is quite a stretch, even for you.  

[herbie]

The utter desperation of those trying to paint yet another Tory f*ckup as some sort of Liberal failure, plot or anti-democratic move is hilarious.

They're disintegrating through their unwillingness to change from complaints, whining and obstructionism to offering any actual policy alternative and poor leadership. Ma was simply the latest to see the light.

Rinse the dogma from your brain and think like a normal human being for once.

[ironstone]

2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

How so?

Based on past social media posts and images. These bogus and rather numerous 'Chinese Canadian' associations are by and large extensions of the CCP within Canada. I doubt Carney has the slightest concern over Chinese foreign interference either. Remember that he stood by MP Paul Chiang even after he threatened his Conservative opponent

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"Many Chinese Canadian associations have been influenced or controlled by the Chinese government, particularly through the United Front Work Department, which aims to manipulate and monitor Chinese communities abroad."

Canada is lagging behind our closest neighbor in per capita gdp.

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/usa/canada?sc=XE34

Why are there more homeless people than ever before? Why is the number of food banks increasing? People using food banks inquiring about MAID? Health care is a mess. Food prices have gone through the roof. This is not a record to boast about.

If the things mentioned above were being properly addressed, I would not hesitate to give credit to Carney and the Liberals. 

If Carney had managed to reach a deal with Trump(as he said he in his campaign, he was the ONLY one capable) and get US tariffs lowered, I would praise him. US tariffs on Canadian goods are higher now than they were under Trudeau.

He rewarded Hamas by recognizing 'Palestine'.

I'll support him when the good things he does ever demonstrably outweigh the bad things he does. Given his record to date, that doesn't appear very likely.

Edited December 12, 2025 by ironstone

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

Based on past social media posts and images.

Like?

[ironstone]

10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Like?

 Canada China Federation of Entrepreneurs. Fujian Association of Canada.

Scroll to 11:40 in the link below if you curious to learn more.

 

[TreeBeard]

25 minutes ago, ironstone said:

 Canada China Federation of Entrepreneurs. Fujian Association of Canada.

 

 

Michael Ma is associated with these groups how?  

[Goddess]

24 minutes ago, ironstone said:

if you curious to learn more.

He's not.

If it was a Conservative, he would be, yes.

But it's a Liberal.  He doesn't give a rat's poo when Libs are corrupt.

It's why Canada is circling the toilet bowl.

[Shady]

57 minutes ago, herbie said:

Rinse the dogma from your brain and think like a normal human being for once.

Pure projection.  Keep supporting usurping the will of the people in favour of backroom deals to change the outcomes of elections.  Canada is a banana republic.

[ExFlyer]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

I already read your previous post with exactly the same thing.

WTF, little boy?

Your comprehension issue prevents you from understanding so, you need to constantly be reminded LOL

[ironstone]

54 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Michael Ma is associated with these groups how?  

I don't know....maybe by his attending their meetings???? Kind of obvious is it not?

You aren't interested in finding out more about him and why he attends meetings with organizations that are most likely run by the CCP.

Any politician from any party that attends events organized and controlled by the CCP is a security threat. I doubt Carney shares that concern either since he didn't immediately remove Paul Chiang for his 'bounty' threat against his Conservative rival.

[Goddess]

10 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I doubt Carney shares that concern either since he didn't immediately remove Paul Chiang for his 'bounty' threat against his Conservative rival.

You have to remember that Liberal supporters also support Canada getting very snuggly with China.

As one of them said here the other week, "China is our friend."

They really, really believe that.  That China is our friend.

They support all the China-like policies the Libs are putting in - all the censorship bills, all the centralizing of power in one government.  They really believe all this is GOOD.

So when you point out that a Liberal politician called for his rival to be kidnapped and shipped to China for punishment - they all supported and defended that when it happened.

There is, unfortunately, a slight majority of Canadians who want us to be just like China.  It's why they vote Liberal.

 

Edited December 12, 2025 by Goddess

[taxme]

21 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Don't sugar-coat it Taxme, tell us how you really feel. 😉

It may be time to renew my membership for the coming CPC leadership race to replace Mr. Poilievre. I feel sorry for the guy but he is the author of his own destruction. He just refuses to listen to advice.

One more seat for the WEF globalist fascists lieberal party and Canada WILL be doomed forever. Four more years of globalist tyranny in Canada and we will all become asylum seekers into America. Anyone who stays behind better learn how to practice their communism and how communism works because that is what anyone who stays behind will find out very soon. This is not funny anymore. It is getting very serious now. And i do not think that Trump is going to like having a communist country next door to America. Trump and Hegseth, send in the army and free Canada. 

Where or what has PP done to make anyone think that a leader review may be required. It is not PP's fault that three lieberal traitors to PP and the  conservative party and Canada decided to cross the floor or quit. Those three were never real and true conservatives at all. They must have been always lieberals at heart. If PP is going to be replaced, they better replace PP with a TRUMP like figure who is a real and true conservative and tell us as to what their conservative plans are for Canada. When incidents like what we have seen happen, there should be a by-election. Just saying. 

[taxme]

21 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Well, we elect Members of Parliament to act in the best interests of the constituency, not a political party. This is taken more in the breech than in the observance, so when an MP does act in what they deem to be in the interests of their constituents, the partisans get their panties in a twist.

When we elect politicians their job is to serve the interests of we the people and not the other way around. It seems that everything a politician seems to be doing, and have done for decades, is to look out for themselves and line their pockets. The majority of Canadian politicians could careless about we the people. And the lieberal party are making new laws to stifle free speech and create new censorship and hate Bills. If Marx Carnage gets his majority government, is predict that freedom of speech and new censorship laws will be implemented. This website could be gone. My belief and opinion. 

When democrat Muslim Ilane Omar entered politics, she was supposedly $65,000 in debt. Today she is worth millions. WTF? How did that happen with her living on a politicians salary. I am pretty sure that this also must be happening here in Canada. It is believed that when Marx Carnage leaves politics he will be a billionaire. Just saying. 

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

I don't know....maybe by his attending their meetings???? Kind of obvious is it not?

I have no idea what that is.  Do you have actual information that it’s run by the Chinese guvmint?

He would’ve attended as a Conservative MP?  Did Poilievre have issues with it?  Kind of convenient that suddenly it becomes an issue with a random conservative YouTuber the day after the floor crossing, eh?

 

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

You aren't interested in finding out more about him and why he attends meetings with organizations that are most likely run by the CCP.

Why do you think I am asking you for actual information, rather than conspiracy conjecture?

[taxme]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

You have to remember that Liberal supporters also support Canada getting very snuggly with China.

As one of them said here the other week, "China is our friend."

They really, really believe that.  That China is our friend.

They support all the China-like policies the Libs are putting in - all the censorship bills, all the centralizing of power in one government.  They really believe all this is GOOD.

So when you point out that a Liberal politician called for his rival to be kidnapped and shipped to China for punishment - they all supported and defended that when it happened.

There is, unfortunately, a slight majority of Canadians who want us to be just like China.  It's why they vote Liberal.

 

Everything that this lieberal communist party does in Ottawa today smacks of communism. There are many C Bills being proposed in Ottawa by the lieberal Marxist party that totally wants to stifle free speech and create new censorship laws.

After all, was it not Marxist Turdeau that said that he admired how things are done in communist China. Only a communist would admire what communist China does. And with Marxist Turdeau freezing peoples bank and credit card accounts, during the truckers convoy demonstration, this act should now tell us all that the lieberal party is a communist party and lieberals believe in communism. Any member here that supports the lieberal party does believe in communism, right comrade flyboy? Chuckle-chuckle. 

This Marxist lieberal politician that wanted his rival to be sent to China reminds of a lieberal democrat politician in America that wanted his rival and his family to be assassinated. Liberalism is a terrible sick disease and this just shows that they will do anything to stay in power. Stifle their rivals freedoms and rights, ship their rivals off to communist China or wants them assassinated. I have not yet heard any conservative politician talk like that. Have you? 

And if Marx Carnage gets another lieberal so called conservative traitor to cross the floor Canada will be doomed forever. Carnage has already destroyed Canada as a minority lieberal party, watch what will happen if the commie gets a majority. It is truly hard to believe that anyone would want to vote for a lieberal communist and have communism run and rule over Canada. But this is Canada, don't you know. Full of brain dead lieberal no minds. Just my opinion. 😱

[taxme]

20 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Bad news for Poilievre, to state the obvious. He seems unable to adapt to the new conditions that have followed the arrival of asteroid Trump. 

No, it will be bad news for you if Marx Carnage gets his majority. A vote for the lieberals is a vote for globalist communism for Canada. The only one that can save Canada from Marx Carnage and his lieberal Marxist ilk is Poilievre. All Carnage has done is capitulate and gave into Donald Trump and what Trump wanted. I can only hope that Trump does more to help Alberta separate from communist Canada. Canada is dead. It is just people like you who refuse to see that. Just keep knocking Poilievre and you will get communism the law of the land in Canada. Just my opinion. 😁

[taxme]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

Woof woof. 

It really must hurt lieberals like you when a conservative like me tells it like it is, eh comrade herbert. Just keep voting and supporting the Marxist globalist because one day soon this website could be gone thanks to your lieberal Marxist communist globalist Zionist ilk. Believe it or not, comrade. 

BARK-BARK. 🤡🤪😂🤮

23 hours ago, taxme said:

Another WEF pro Zionist globalist communist traitor to Canada. This floor crossing nonsense needs to end. This traitor was elected to represent the people in his community. The conservative party is full of lieberals wearing conservative clothing. This is why Canada should not exist any longer. Canada is full of lieberal globalists traitor communists who despise Canada. I can only hope that one day soon Alberta separates from communist Canada. Canada has become nothing more but a woke, broke and soon to be bankrupt 3rd world multicultural hell hole of a communist country. 

Prove me wrong, if you can? I will bet that no one here can, even you eyeball? If you can, go make your day!! 

Thanks for your showing me that i must be right again, comrades. LOLOL. 

[taxme]

21 hours ago, ironstone said:

What advice in particular? Should he be more of a red tory? Then the Conservatives become virtually indistinguishable from the Liberals.

He is always being called confrontational and divisive, but it's literally his job to hold the government to account. He's been very vocal in criticizing the Carney government for their poor record because they do in fact, have a poor record.

The leftists will laugh and cheer about this latest defection while Canada continues to be mired in mediocrity.

Carney is laughing too while he openly pursues his Brookfield agenda.

 

And with Marx Carnage involvement with Brookfield, it is said that by the time the traitor dictator to Canada leaves politics the globalist will be worth close to a billion dollars and all with the help of the Canadian taxpayer's. I can tell you right now that by the time Carnage leaves with his billions for Europe, after the next crooked election, the leiberals here will still be woke and broke and soon to be bankrupt.

Lieberals have to be the most dumb ass, dumb downed, stunned and stupidest people that have ever walked on the face of the earth. Lieberals think that Marx Carnage is their gift from heaven. These lieberals here will find out very quckly that they will be paying a heavy communist price just like we conservatives will be paying also.

We may by then end up with having digital ID, a cashless society, and a social credit scoring system and see more bank and credit card accounts become the norm of the day just like what goes on in communist China. 

Good post. ☺️

I believe that there may be more red Tory's in the conservative party. Lieberal red Tory's at the time of their political careers could not get into the lieberal party so they got into the conservative party until they could get a chance to become traitors to the conservative party and cross over to the lieberal communist party. They are called carpetbagger scum. 🤮

[taxme]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Your comprehension issue prevents you from understanding so, you need to constantly be reminded LOL

Hey my little troll comrade, thanks for the last ten down arrows. They are going to fill up my new chart just nicely and very quickly. Sadly, if you keep it up though i may have to go out and buy myself another new chart, commie. 

Aw well, as they say, shit happens. LOL 

On 12/11/2025 at 4:45 PM, Politics1990 said:

sadly he will pass his  thing in jan the main con supporterslove him

Can you rewrite what you said again. Or do you have an English writing problem? Just asking. 

[ironstone]

2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Why do you think I am asking you for actual information, rather than conspiracy conjecture?

There is a fair bit of information out there about the extent of the CCP's activities in Canada. They keep CSIS pretty busy.

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Many Chinese Canadian organizations have been influenced or taken over by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) through its United Front Work Department, which aims to control and monitor the Chinese community abroad. This has raised concerns about the extent of CCP influence in these organizations and their activities in Canada.

They operated 'police stations' on our soil, seemingly without much protest from the Liberal government. They have faced allegations of harassment and intimidation towards the Chinese community.

There is evidence out there, but clearly a lot of Canadians prefer to keep their eyes closed on this matter as well as many other things. China is not a friend to Canada.

 

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

There is a fair bit of information out there

If you can’t bring any evidence of what you’re pushing, just be honest and say “I saw it on Facebook”.  
 

Making a claim and then responding “go google it” when asked to provide evidence is so lazy. 
 

4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Many Chinese Canadian organizations

I’d like evidence of this particular organization please. 

[ironstone]

Just now, TreeBeard said:

If you can’t bring any evidence of what you’re pushing, just be honest and say “I saw it on Facebook”.  
 

Making a claim and then responding “go google it” when asked to provide evidence is so lazy. 
 

I’d like evidence of this particular organization please. 

If you honestly believe that the CCP does not flex its muscle on Canadian soil through various means then I think you are incredibly naive.

Obviously I am not privy to any hard evidence that would be in the hands of CSIS but I'll take them at their when they say China is engaging in these kinds of activities.

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The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) has issued warnings about Chinese espionage activities in Canada, highlighting efforts to obtain sensitive information for the Chinese government. These activities include attempts to influence Canadian politicians and institutions, as well as the operation of clandestine police stations targeting Chinese nationals in Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csis-report-china-volt-tycoon-1.7196662

[CdnFox]

22 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Bad news for Poilievre, to state the obvious. He seems unable to adapt to the new conditions that have followed the arrival of asteroid Trump. 

This has got nothing to do with Paulie ever or the arrival of trump

There are always a handful of people who will be bribed by money and power more than ethics or a duty to serve.

This guy was going off only a couple of days ago about how absolutely horrible and terrible and evil carney and liberals were. His opponent in the election who was a liberal suggest that he should be turned over to china for the bounty and carney stood up for that guy and said it was no big deal.

But they've offered him a massive amount of benefits, which is illegal technically but you can bet they did, so he crossed the floor

It's not unexpected. We've seen it happen to the liberals when the conservatives were in power, and we've seen it happen to the conservatives on the liberals were in power. I'm sure most of us remember Belinda Stronach.

Barney have one more in his pocket to pull out just before pierre's leadership review? Because that would be fairly devastating

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, ironstone said:

There is a fair bit of information out there about the extent of the CCP's activities in Canada. They keep CSIS pretty busy.

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Many Chinese Canadian organizations have been influenced or taken over by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) through its United Front Work Department, which aims to control and monitor the Chinese community abroad. This has raised concerns about the extent of CCP influence in these organizations and their activities in Canada.

They operated 'police stations' on our soil, seemingly without much protest from the Liberal government. They have faced allegations of harassment and intimidation towards the Chinese community.

There is evidence out there, but clearly a lot of Canadians prefer to keep their eyes closed on this matter as well as many other things. China is not a friend to Canada.

 

No doubt. The kind of losers who suggest this isn't an issue are just scumbags who aren't worth listening to.

The problem is even the liberals admit this is a problem but they don't actually do what they're supposed to to mitigate the problem. Everybody looks at the reports and says hey, we need to stop this we should do this, and the liberals are like yeah yeah we should really do that one day. Eventually. Down the road.

Which suggests they know that they are benefiting from the Chinese interference.

Important side note, carney went to china while he was representing Trudeau's government to the Chinese and also came back with a half a billion dollar loan for Brooksfield which they used to fund musk's takeover of twitter. So Carney has deep ties with the Chinese already