Conservative Leadership Race

[CdnFox]

46 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I just listened to much of Mr. Poilieve's news conference and I have questions.

He wants to reduce the deficit, but if he is appointed to lead a Ministry, we will all have affordable housing. Where is he going to get the money?

Private sector. It's not that there's no money to buy or build houses in the private sector it's that the cost is too high and the profits are quickly becoming too low. Government can fix both of those things fairly easily if they put their mind to it.

Although I honestly have a better idea that I like even better but I doubt that he's thinking of it

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He will do away with whats left of carbon taxes, but does not say how he will get people to stop burning petroleum and coal. 

Irrelevant. The two are not connected. The carbon tax hasn't caused anyone to reduce those emissions at all certainly not in any substantial amount. Nor did the liberals expect it to or they would have set up some species to monitor its success. They did not. So regardless of what his plan is or isn't the carbon tax should still be killed it's useless

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He said he wants to ship a million barrels of oil through a pipeline terminating on BC's north coast. He did not say how he would convince Brithish Colunbia and First Nations to permit this.

Irrelevant. In the end they can force it if they wish, keystone got built and there was plenty of opposite opposition to that . But at the end of the day there are plenty of things that can be offered to the first nations to address their fears and concerns and as long as an honest process is done to explore that the courts will allow the pipeline to go through one way or another. However I think the vast majority of them will sign on to it if the benefits to their people are significant enough.

But that comes through negotiation, it would be silly to try and expect anybody to have that answer in hand before the process even started. It's very liberal of you to assume that he's going to tell white people how the first nations are going to agree to something  

50 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Perhaps I missed it, but did he even mention plans for the CAF?  The CAF has been starved by Conservative, CPC and Liberals for sixty years. Can any of you shed light on this. 

He said that he will make the NATO commitments within 3 years. Now of course that'll be changing if cardi is spending more money now obviously the clock is already ticking on that so perhaps by the time he's elected it would be within 2 years or  one year

But what he won't do is hire a dozen new bureaucracies and a dozen new bureaucrats at $800,000 a year each plus expenses and put that money under military spending and pretend that he's spending on the military

 

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

how he will get people to stop burning petroleum and coal.

It is ridiculous and childish to think we should stop burning petroleum.  Practically nobody burns coal.  It might be used in some refining industries as it may be essential to refine metals or minerals.  You have to heat them to melting point somehow.

Billions of people around the world depend on fossil fuels for survival.  They are used for almost everything.  Hundreds of millions of cars, trucks, ships, aircraft use it.  It is used for manufacturing many products.  I hope it is not going away.  So how nonsensical is it to say we should stop using it?   Saying things like that sound very like fantasyland, as if the world can suddenly stop breathing and emitting CO2.

[ExFlyer]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The last two elections under justin the liberals lost the popular vote

And this time they basically tied, a...

So the better question is if the lips are so good why don't the majority of Canadians vote for them?

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You really are a teen aren't you? LOLOL 

Ha...yet he was the Prime Minister and your LOSE was not LOL

The Libs got more votes than anyone else...certainly not the complainitives LOL

There is no such thing as a tie in elections. Your hero was the LOSER

 

Aren't you embarrassed you are arguing with a "teen" all this time? And LOSING???

Yeah, like the LOSER you are LOL

[ExFlyer]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Seriously?  You don't know?

It's even been discussed extensively on this forum.  Maybe you missed the discussions because you're too busy posting a$$ porn and fart comments to Canadian Fox?

This is what I'm talking about when I say low IQ, uninformed voters.

Please enlighten me...with the facts and proof of course.

I can wait for a while but not too long as it would take you far too long to make us sh1t.

When was the last time I posted anything like that??? You are also living in confux's head I see LOL

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Seems to be enough...no? You're shallow. I get it.

Not shallow at all...just to deep for some of you to get it.

Y'all just hate being called out LOL

[Legato]

5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Not shallow at all...just to deep for some of you to get it.

Y'all just hate being called out LOL

All this from a "guy" who thinks he can catch fish from damp concrete.

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha...yet he was the Prime Minister and your LOSE was not LOL

 

Sure. Nobody lies and cheats like a liberal  

But he was not the people's choice. 

[ExFlyer]

13 minutes ago, Legato said:

All this from a "guy" who thinks he can catch fish from damp concrete.

Nope.... I can catch fish while trolling this forum LOL

Catch you all the time....SUCKA.

[ExFlyer]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure. Nobody lies and cheats like a liberal  

But he was not the people's choice. 

HA HA HA...sucks to be continually in second place EH??? LOL

He won more votes than any other party....hence, he is PM and PP is not LOL

"OTTAWA – In an effort to prevent any more defections from caucus, party leader Pierre Poilievre has reportedly locked all Conservative MPs in an undisclosed room in Parliament Hill before swallowing the key."

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2025/11/poilievre-prevents-more-mps-from-leaving-party-by-locking-doors-swallowing-key/

Edited November 12, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Legato]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope.... I can catch fish while trolling this forum LOL

Catch you all the time....SUCKA.

Quit the blubbering, my monitor just sprung a leak.

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

Quit the blubbering, my monitor just sprung a leak.

Caught ya again LOL
Can't stop taking the bait can ya. 

What a LOSER fish LOL

Edited November 12, 2025 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

HA HA HA...

I accept your admission of defeat  

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The carbon tax hasn't caused anyone to reduce those emissions at all certainly not in any substantial amount.

That's just plain wrong.

And carbon taxes still remain amongst the leading drivers of reductions in the world and are integral to every serious plan to continue reducing emissions in the future. Notwithstanding economic collapses of course.

My money says economic collapses will be the most effective drivers in the end - which could be any day now according to you so...

[ExFlyer]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I accept your admission of defeat  

Defeat?? Of what??

You predicted and election and your prediction fell flat...you lost, you were defeated...as a LOSER should know.

It is sad that a LOSER does not even realize their prediction was defeated  LOL

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Perhaps I missed it

Yes, you did.  It's not all in one speech.

His plans for CAF are well-documented.  I commented during the campaign about his speech up in the Arctic, which would address both CAF and foreign influence and please the Americans.

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Yes, you did.  It's not all in one speech.

His plans for CAF are well-documented.  I commented during the campaign about his speech up in the Arctic, which would address both CAF and foreign influence and please the Americans.

Every PM and wannabe PM since the 60's have promised to do something in the Arctic and they have all failed.

Even Diefenbaker ( the last food conservative PM)  was a major proponent of a strong Canadian presence and development in the Arctic, a vision he called the "The Northern Vision and no PM has done anything worthwhile.

 

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Every PM and wannabe PM since the 60's have promised to do something in the Arctic and they have all failed.

We've never been threatened by the Americans to do something about it.

It was such a great idea, that a couple weeks after Polievre announced it, Carney stole the idea and announced the same damn thing. 🤣

[ExFlyer]

37 minutes ago, Goddess said:

We've never been threatened by the Americans to do something about it.

It was such a great idea, that a couple weeks after Polievre announced it, Carney stole the idea and announced the same damn thing. 🤣

The Americans were never threatening to us...they gave us the CIM-10B Bomarcs back in late 50's to help against the Russians.  Diefenbaker was PM and he cancelled the Arrow when we got the Bomarcs.

I was in the Military for a long time.

Every PM promised stuff in the Arctic. We even built runways and shelters for the F18 but abandoned them. All we ever did was establish the Canadian Rangers and gave them old 303's and a few bullets

 

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

The Americans were never threatening to us

Right now, the Americans want us to shore up our borders.  That's why Trudeau suddenly promised more funding.

 

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Right now, the Americans want us to shore up our borders.  That's why Trudeau suddenly promised more funding.

 

Trudeau??

History will tell you that the US wanted us to shore up our borders way back in 1958 when Diefenbaker made the deal for Bomarcs.

All PM's have "promised" to raise funding and not until now will we do it.. We have never made the "promised" 2%  until now.

The military has been sucking the hind teat for 50+ years and are finally getting what they have been due. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

That's just plain wrong.

Absolute solid truth. It was a complete and utter waste

Which is why the liberals put no provision in place for tracking it. The last thing they wanted to prove was that it was of no value. If they thought it was working they would track it success but they didn't even bother to try

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And carbon taxes still remain amongst the leading drivers of reductions in the world and are integral to every serious plan to continue reducing emissions in the future. Notwithstanding economic collapses of course.

They haven't achieved a single thing, they are the world's most useless attempt at changing climate change and people realize it

 

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My money says economic collapses will be the most effective drivers in the end - 

Well that is something that carbon tax helped towards, so if your theory is that carbon taxes help trash the economy and that might improve climate change then you may have a point. Carbon taxes do harm the economy

 but the reality is the opposite is true in the long run. But the economy is trashed people turn to the cheapest forms of power, oil and gasoline. They don't have money to buy new EVS, there is no money for major development of new technologies, nobody wants to spend on climate change when they can't afford food.

 

[Queenmandy85]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

It is used for manufacturing many products.

That is the point. Using petroleum and coal as fuel is a waste when we have the Saudi Arabia of uranium in western Canada. We could be building reactors around the world and supplying them with uranium. 

Edited November 13, 2025 by Queenmandy85

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

So how nonsensical is it to say we should stop using it? 

No one has said stop using it, just stop burning it for energy and switch to other things as fast as possible.

Building more infrastructure that intends to burn it is stupid and short-sighted because it goes in the completely opposite direction climate change action calls for.

[blackbird]

49 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

That is the point. Using petroleum and coal as fuel is a waste when we have the Saudi Arabia of uranium in western Canada. We could be building reactors around the world and supplying them with uranium. 

Reactors produce electricity.  They don't replace fossil fuels for vehicles ships and planes.  We also need oil for manufacturing and many things.  

[blackbird]

46 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No one has said stop using it, just stop burning it for energy and switch to other things as fast as possible.

Building more infrastructure that intends to burn it is stupid and short-sighted because it goes in the completely opposite direction climate change action calls for.

There is no replacement for fossil fuels.  That's reality.

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, blackbird said:

There is no replacement for fossil fuels.  That's reality.

There's an electric car parked in my driveway that's plugged into my house.

How do you explain that?