Conservative Leadership Race

[I am Groot]

On 11/10/2025 at 10:10 AM, ExFlyer said:

The Liberals???

Seems his own party members are abandoning him.

Seems? You mean because of the sudden plethora of stories in the mainstream media by Liberals talking about how much turmoil there allegedly is in the Conservative Party?

[I am Groot]

On 11/10/2025 at 9:10 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

The evidence that he should modify his style is considerable but he continues to resist it. Trump has transformed what we expect from the leader of the opposition. In a time of unprecedented national crisis, Poilievre has to be more careful about partisan attacks on the government 

An unprecedented national crisis, says Carney! We will move with a speed never seen before to make major changes to our economy!

Gets elected. Goes on vacation. LOL

"Our budget will be a generational transformational!"

Brings out Trudeau's intended budget, dusts it off, and adds money for the military.

Uh, transformational? 

"Don't bother me now! I'm off to Europe! And Asia! And South America! And Africa!"

All these mouth noises are only going to fool the foolish for so long, you know.

[SpankyMcFarland]

38 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

An unprecedented national crisis, says Carney! We will move with a speed never seen before to make major changes to our economy!

Gets elected. Goes on vacation. LOL

"Our budget will be a generational transformational!"

Brings out Trudeau's intended budget, dusts it off, and adds money for the military.

Uh, transformational? 

"Don't bother me now! I'm off to Europe! And Asia! And South America! And Africa!"

All these mouth noises are only going to fool the foolish for so long, you know.

Our current crisis is not of our own making. We are still under unprecedented pressure from a country we considered our best friend. No amount of criticism of Carney changes that existential reality and Canadians understand it for the most part. Unfortunately, Poilievre remains in anti-Trudeau mode as if Trump never became president. He looks out of touch. 

[I am Groot]

57 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Our current crisis is not of our own making. We are still under unprecedented pressure from a country we considered our best friend. No amount of criticism of Carney changes that existential reality and Canadians understand it for the most part. Unfortunately, Poilievre remains in anti-Trudeau mode as if Trump never became president. He looks out of touch. 

Oh yawn. What Poilievre wanted to do in his election platform was slash the regulatory chains that keep industry from thriving, build pipelines, and do whatever else it took to get the economy moving. That was the bulk of his platform. What's Carney done so far but bring in a massive budget deficit and promise to continue the flow of immigrants and foreign workers to keep house prices high and wages stagnant?

[SpankyMcFarland]

6 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Oh yawn. What Poilievre wanted to do in his election platform was slash the regulatory chains that keep industry from thriving, build pipelines, and do whatever else it took to get the economy moving. That was the bulk of his platform. What's Carney done so far but bring in a massive budget deficit and promise to continue the flow of immigrants and foreign workers to keep house prices high and wages stagnant?

Poilievre still behaves as if he’s running against Trudeau. He doesn’t get it and clearly some of his supporters don’t either. The nasty, adversarial tone across the board works better here than in a national election of a country under siege. He is tone deaf on which battles to fight because he lacks that type of subtlety and nobody can seem to get it into his skull. The election, his in particular, and its ongoing aftermath reflect that. He should have won and he screwed up mightily. Time to ask why. 

Edited November 11, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[I am Groot]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Poilievre still behaves as if he’s running against Trudeau. He doesn’t get it and clearly some of his supporters don’t either. The nasty, adversarial tone across the board works better here than in a national election of a country under siege.

Poilevre could comment on the weather and you'd complain about his 'nasty tone'.

And by the way, if the country is under siege, do you really want a nice guy addressing that, or a 'nasty' guy?

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 minute ago, I am Groot said:

Poilevre could comment on the weather and you'd complain about his 'nasty tone'.

And by the way, if the country is under siege, do you really want a nice guy addressing that, or a 'nasty' guy?

 

Did he win or did he lose against a tired government too long in the tooth? And did he lose in his own riding? Am I correct about that much or did I imagine the whole thing? You should be coming up with the critiques, not me. 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Poilievre still behaves as if he’s running against Trudeau. He doesn’t get it and clearly some of his supporters don’t either. The nasty, adversarial tone across the board works better here than in a national election of a country under siege. He is tone deaf on which battles to fight because he lacks that type of subtlety and nobody can seem to get it into his skull. The election, his in particular, and its ongoing aftermath reflect that. He should have won and he screwed up mightily. Time to ask why. 

Complete nonsense. It sounds like you expect an opposition party to sit there and clap for the government. Calling someone adversarial in a Westminster parliamentary system suggests that you have no idea how the system works. It is confrontational and adversarial! You don't sit there and suck up to the other side and say how great they are, you call them out for the things that they're not doing well. Trudeau literally called ministers when harper was in power pieces of shit.

The whole angry man thing is a complete manufactured falsehood narrative that people push trying desperately to discredit him rather than address the issues he raises.

As if there would ever be a conservative leader that you would point to and say oh how wonderful. No matter what a conservative reader does you're going to point at them and say this is why they're the most terrible thing in the entire universe because that's what you do.

But here's the thing, despite everything you still got 41% of the vote. And if he had presented a slightly better argument as to why he's better or carney had had any track record to run against he would have won. Carney's approval ratings are slipping every month and the CPC is already pulling ahead of the liberals again. And it hasn't even been a year.

The conservatives are not the one with the problem right now

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Wow.

A proud traitor.

Nope...a realist..

Seems denial is your best attribute LOL

Ya gotta do better than that if your want to be credible

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Seems? You mean because of the sudden plethora of stories in the mainstream media by Liberals talking about how much turmoil there allegedly is in the Conservative Party?

Nope, because of the monumental effort to downplay by conservatives MP's LOL

Edited November 11, 2025 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope...a realist..

Says every traitor  

 

 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope...a realist..

Seems denial is your best attribute LOL

Ya gotta do better than that if your want to be credible

 

Credible? You lost that quite some time ago.

But so we're clear, you vote for who you think will win any given election, not based on how they would perform,  but just on your perception of who will win. Correct?

[ExFlyer]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Says every traitor  

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Credible? You lost that quite some time ago.

But so we're clear, you vote for who you think will win any given election, not based on how they would perform,  but just on your perception of who will win. Correct?

Wow...is that all you can come up with??

Pretty sad, but expected coming from a LOSER like you LOL

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Credible? You lost that quite some time ago.

But so we're clear, you vote for who you think will win any given election, not based on how they would perform,  but just on your perception of who will win. Correct?

Duhh, ya must have missed it...the loss  of credibility issue was about you.

Trying to deflect?? Well, you FAIL LOL

Nope, that is where you are very wrong. I have never voted Liberal till PP became the leader of the Complainatives. I even voted for the previous 3 leaders but PP just turned my stomach with his constant complaining and whining and false accusations.

Even you must accept the lost because of his toxic personality and constant BS.

[ExFlyer]

From Canadian Press

"Pierre Poilievre likes to focus on provincial and local failures and blame it on the federal government. In most cases those provinces have Conservative Premiers. He relies on the ignorance of his base. Healthcare is controlled by the Premiers, as are schools. The federal government does not issue construction permits, fix roads, pick up garbage etc. Doug Ford is cutting thousands of hospital beds in Ontario. Yet time and time again I hear Poilievre followers cite the healthcare system as one of their reasons why “Canada is broken”. Whether you agree with it or not, Doug Ford overpaid $75M to run ads that sunk trade negoations with the U.S. This was a Conservative blunder, yet Poilievre blames the federal government. He is disingenuous, and deliberately misleading Canadians."

[Goddess]

Fake Flyer, Queenie, eyeball....they are all examples of all that is wrong in this country.  Low IQ, uninformed voters who look at one poll and see the Libs ahead and say, "That's who I'm gonna vote for."  No looking at policies, no digging, spoon-fed their info from the CBC, shallow thinking if there's any thinking involved at all.

An apathetic electorate is our biggest problem.

[ExFlyer]

12 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Fake Flyer, Queenie, eyeball....they are all examples of all that is wrong in this country.  Low IQ, uninformed voters who look at one poll and see the Libs ahead and say, "That's who I'm gonna vote for."  No looking at policies, no digging, spoon-fed their info from the CBC, shallow thinking if there's any thinking involved at all.

An apathetic electorate is our biggest problem.

Ohhh, got nuthin but insults Eh? LOL

Seems the "apathetic electorate" knows who should lead this country LOL

"It’s a known fact Pierre Poilievre has been in parliament for 21 years, 10 years in the government, 4 years a majority. He has zero laws on the books to his name.

Someone just commented “What about Jean Chrétien? What did he accomplish before being PM?”. Before becoming PM Chrétien authored much of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, our highest constitutional document, and law of the land. The same one those Freedumb people always yap about. Yeah, big time lightweight."

Seem the only thing "apathetic" is what folks think of PP LePew... not the conservative party but it's leader LOL

[Goddess]

47 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, our highest constitutional document, and law of the land.

That Liberals regularly crap all over.  Ya, that's a sign of great leadership. 🙄

Is it lunchtime there yet?  Did mommy bring your pizza pop to you?

[ExFlyer]

15 minutes ago, Goddess said:

That Liberals regularly crap all over.  Ya, that's a sign of great leadership. 🙄

Is it lunchtime there yet?  Did mommy bring your pizza pop to you?

Seriously gdess, if the libs were so bad, why did Canadians choose them over the complainatives??? Maybe they chose someone who would make a better leader than PP??

Exactly what parts of the charter of rights have the libs (or cons) crapped on?? What legal areas did anyone infringe upon?? Be specific, not partisan but specific. I will wait but it will be a long time and you will have to suck back on your accusation LOL

Do you seriously think PP is or would be a better leader??  Canadians do not so, you are alone on your pedestal LOL. https://abacusdata.ca/abacus-data-poll-budget-lands-softly-as-political-deadlock-continues/

Lastly....do you really have to downgrade yourself to the level of taxicab and confux with your insults??? How sad for you.

 

Edited November 12, 2025 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Wow...is that all you can come up with??

 

That's another thing you say when you know you're losing but you can't think of something witty ::)  

We accept your surrender  

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Duhh, ya must have missed it...the loss  of credibility issue was about you.

 

No kid it was about you and he's right you lost yours a long long time ago

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

That's another thing you say when you know you're losing but you can't think of something witty ::)  

We accept your surrender  

No kid it was about you and he's right you lost yours a long long time ago

Nope...a valid question.

I have nothing to surrender for but you, on the other hand surrendered on your prediction there will be an election...HA HA HA you LOSER...again

OK...all about me...thanks.

I told you I was in still your head ....LOSER LOL

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Seriously gdess, if the libs were so bad, why did Canadians choose them over the complainatives??? Maybe they chose someone who would make a better leader than PP??

 

 

The last two elections under justin the liberals lost the popular vote

And this time they basically tied, and that was only with the NDP support going over to the liberals and trump scaring the bejesus out of everyone.

So the better question is if the lips are so good why don't the majority of Canadians vote for them?

4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope...a valid question.

 

I'm sorry kiddo, the very fact that you think is that the best you've got is a valid question just about made me spit up my coffee  

You really are a teen aren't you? LOLOL 

[Goddess]

27 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Exactly what parts of the charter of rights have the libs (or cons) crapped on??

Seriously?  You don't know?

It's even been discussed extensively on this forum.  Maybe you missed the discussions because you're too busy posting a$$ porn and fart comments to Canadian Fox?

This is what I'm talking about when I say low IQ, uninformed voters.

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Wow...is that all you can come up with??

Pretty sad, but expected coming from a LOSER like you LOL

Seems to be enough...no? You're shallow. I get it.

[CdnFox]

17 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope...a realist..

 

The only thing real about you is your Lego collection

[Queenmandy85]

I just listened to much of Mr. Poilieve's news conference and I have questions.

He wants to reduce the deficit, but if he is appointed to lead a Ministry, we will all have affordable housing. Where is he going to get the money?

He will do away with whats left of carbon taxes, but does not say how he will get people to stop burning petroleum and coal. His likely alternative will be to ration oil and coal, but so far, he has refused to admit it. Rationing is a lot more cumbersome and expensive than deterence through taxation.

He said he wants to ship a million barrels of oil through a pipeline terminating on BC's north coast. He did not say how he would convince Brithish Colunbia and First Nations to permit this. BC has a lot more to loose with this than Alberta has to gain. He also did not say how he plans to ensure future generations have suficient petroleum for their needs. When our fossil resourses ar exhausted, we will have to imort it from Russia at a thousand times the price.

Perhaps I missed it, but did he even mention plans for the CAF?  The CAF has been starved by Conservative, CPC and Liberals for sixty years. Can any of you shed light on this. 

Edited November 12, 2025 by Queenmandy85