Bring back capital punishment with help from MAID.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

The fact is capital punishment is the only way to eliminate serious dangerous killers from society and keep the public safe. 

No it's not and the fact that you think it is bespeaks a problem with discretion and common sense.

Common sense????   Where is the common sense in what you say if you think it is fine to let dangerous offenders, murderers continue to live?  They are being released on parole and some go out to commit serious crimes again.  Some kill people.   So how is that reasonable?   You know full well the system is not going to change to protect society.  The safety of society comes first.   Why do you ignore that?

 

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Pay more taxes? Allow social workers to decide sentences and work with people individually to rehabilitate? How about monitoring of all citizens? 

So you think the taxpayers should spend millions of dollars to rehabilitate murderers, including mass murderers?   You believer murderers deserve to be rehabilitated?   How insane is that?

Murderers deserve the death penalty.  No ifs ands or buts...  Public safety comes first.  But you want to force the public to pay for rehab of murderers and millions of dollars for incarceration, counselling, and attempts to rehab killers.   How sick is that thinking?  Pretty tragic way of thinking I would say.   

[Gaétan]

19 minutes ago, blackbird said:

So you think the taxpayers should spend millions of dollars to rehabilitate murderers, including mass murderers?   You believer murderers deserve to be rehabilitated?   How insane is that?

Murderers deserve the death penalty.  No ifs ands or buts...  Public safety comes first.  But you want to force the public to pay for rehab of murderers and millions of dollars for incarceration, counselling, and attempts to rehab killers.   How sick is that thinking?  Pretty tragic way of thinking I would say.   

Jesus said that you must forgive seventy-seven times

Matthew 18:22 — Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.

This verse is Jesus’ response to Peter, who asked how many times he should forgive his brother. Jesus uses this expression to show that forgiveness should not be limited or counted, but offered generously and endlessly.

What you preach is not Christian—how can you call yourself a Christian if you don’t practice or teach what Jesus taught?

[herbie]

Oh FFS it's 2025 and capital punishment is still being discussed and for crimes like Communist China and Singapore decide.
And invoking the Bible because after 6,000 years of human civilization you feel people can't figure right from wrong all on their own? 

You're picking a case where the drug supplier should be charged for involuntary manslaughter and claiming it should justify capital punishment for the act of selling drugs.
Fine, let's hang 'em high for running a stop sign and killing someone too.

If putting someone to death brings you satisfaction, you are by definition a sociopath.

[blackbird]

28 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Jesus said that you must forgive seventy-seven times

Matthew 18:22 — Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.

This verse is Jesus’ response to Peter, who asked how many times he should forgive his brother. Jesus uses this expression to show that forgiveness should not be limited or counted, but offered generously and endlessly.

What you preach is not Christian—how can you call yourself a Christian if you don’t practice or teach what Jesus taught?

The Devil would love your understanding of the Bible.   Jesus did not mean the state should turn a blind eye to murderers.  Jesus was talking about individual forgiveness of those that offend you, not letting criminals off for their crimes.  You don't have much of a clue what the Bible means.

[blackbird]

6 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS it's 2025 and capital punishment is still being discussed and for crimes like Communist China and Singapore decide.

Do you know anything about Singapore?  I don't think so.   Singapore is not part of China.

China does execute people, likely for anything.  I wouldn't agree with that. 

Maybe they are doing the right thing with drug dealers though.

I heard China doesn't have tent cities on its streets and doesn't have homeless people.

They don't have people shooting up drugs openly on the streets.  They don't have people begging for money everywhere like Canada now.  Canada could learn something from China on drug crime prevention.

 

[blackbird]

21 minutes ago, herbie said:

You're picking a case where the drug supplier should be charged for involuntary manslaughter and claiming it should justify capital punishment for the act of selling drugs.

I was talking about higher level dealers, that sell in larger quantities, not some street dealer that sells a tiny amount.  Repeat street dealer offenders should be dealt with more severely.  The present system is a failure.  There is no deterrent.  Illegal drugs are killing thousands of people in B.C. alone.  Why is it so easy for people to get drugs? 

Well, the answer is partly the NDP government is even supplying drugs for them.

 Ever thought of that?  Go talk to the victims relatives.

Edited October 16, 2025 by blackbird

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Where is the common sense in what you say if you think it is fine to let dangerous offenders, murderers continue to live? 

 

37 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Jesus said that you must forgive seventy-seven times

Somewhere between your two private islands in The Gulf of Madness is the Kingdom of Middle Ground. Unfortunately, the two of you are going to need high-powered spotting scopes to see it.

If nothing else though, anyone reading your posts is now more committed to maintaining a secular society than they were before their eyes started bleeding. 

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, Venandi said:

If nothing else though, anyone reading your posts is now more committed to maintaining a secular society than they were before their eyes started bleeding. 

Nonsense.   None believers like you have their own ideology that serves the powers of darkness.  Nothing I say makes people more committed to darkness than they already are.  

What you are saying is just an excuse to try to silence people like me.

People that live in darkness and under Satan's world system, don't suddenly become that way because of comments I make.  I don't have that power.  They already are that way.

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Nonsense.   None believers like you have their own ideology that serves the powers of darkness.  Nothing I say makes people more committed to darkness than they already are.  

What you are saying is just an excuse to try to silence people like me.

People that live in darkness and under Satan's world system, don't suddenly become that way because of comments I make.  I don't have that power.  They already are that way.

Would you be okay in bringing back the Iron Maiden?

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Gee, I wonder if a government has ever corrupted the concept of a fair trial and used capital punishment as a political weapon before?

You have nothing t worry about, Chrissy. 

Only leftists abuse power to that extent here in NA.

[blackbird]

10 minutes ago, Legato said:

Would you be okay in bringing back the Iron Maiden?

I never suggested anything like that.  I don't think offenders should be tortured. 

I said capital punishment with MAID, which apparently is supposed to be very humane, at least according to its advocates.  Would you agree?

Edited October 16, 2025 by blackbird

[Legato]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

I never suggested anything like that.  I assume that is some sort of torture.

I said capital punishment with MAID, which apparently is supposed to be very humane, at least according to its advocates.

Iron Maiden is humane if first given midazolam then propofol then rocuronium.

[blackbird]

Just now, Legato said:

Iron Maiden is humane if first given midazolam then propofol then rocuronium.

That is foolishness.   Why would you suggest that?   MAID is supposed to be painless.

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That is foolishness.   Why would you suggest that?   MAID is supposed to be painless.

Try again...."first"..... Same with hanging drawing and quartering.

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Try again...."first"..... Same with hanging drawing and quartering.

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[Legato]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

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A word in my post goes as thus "first"

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

You don't believe in a justice system.  Just let criminals go.  Nothing new from you.

You believe in a vengeance system.

[Chrissy1979]

32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You have nothing t worry about, Chrissy. 

Only leftists abuse power to that extent here in NA.

So then why do you want to give leftists the power to kill you?

[blackbird]

Just on the news now.   This guy murdered the girls two grandparents, the two parents, kidnapped two young girls, aged thirteen and eleven, while they were camping in Well's Grey Park and held them for a week, tortured them, and raped them and then he murdered both of them.  He murdered six people in all.

Now again after 25 years, even though he was turned down on a previous application for parole, he is applying again next.  Meanwhile, the family collected over 100,000 signatures opposing his parole last time, and now they must spend the next year preparing again to oppose his parole application.  This is unjust and puts the families through hell battling the parole of this murderer.  The simple solution to all this could have been capital punishment for his horrendous crimes of murdering these six people.

Watch this short video to get more details about this.

Battle begins to have Wells Gray Park killer denied parole | Watch

 

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You believe in a vengeance system.

Watch the video of the Wells Grey Park mass murderer and tell me you think he should be allowed to live and receive parole. 

Edited October 16, 2025 by blackbird

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

Watch the video of the Wells Grey Park child murderer and tell me you think he should be allowed to live and receive parole. 

I don't think he should be allowed parole. I also think there should be a way to spare the families of victims of the worst crimes from having to go thru parole applications. I can certainly allow for a life sentence without a chance of parole but I don't want the government to have the power to kill people no matter how much we might think they deserve it.

[blackbird]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I don't think he should be allowed parole. I also think there should be a way to spare the families of victims of the worst crimes from having to go thru parole applications. I can certainly allow for a life sentence without a chance of parole but I don't want the government to have the power to kill people no matter how much we might think they deserve it.

That is sick.  He murdered the two grandparents, murdered the parents, then took the two young girls, held them for six days and raped them.  Then murdered them.  And you think he should live.  Wow....   pure insanity.   Evil

Edited October 16, 2025 by blackbird

[eyeball]

Just now, blackbird said:

That is sick.

Incorporating your twisted ancient beliefs into our justice system would be truly diseased. You'd be right at home in the Taliban or ISIS.

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Incorporating your twisted ancient beliefs into our justice system would be truly diseased. You'd be right at home in the Taliban or ISIS.

You gave a reasoned response that addressed his concern about the family, and also eliminated the possibility of having the government kill people. 

Imagine if one of the convoy people was convicted of murder under questionable circumstances, and the federal government called for the death penalty. 

All the people on here whose views of things change depending on the ideology of the main actors... They sure would pivot at that point. 

It's sick to call your response sick.

[blackbird]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You'd be right at home in the Taliban or ISIS.

 

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's sick to call your response sick.

NO  it is not sick.   Your response is sick as well.   Nobody is saying that any innocent person should receive the death penalty.  The system has safeguards such as the justice system, defence lawyers, evidence, and a jury that requires a unanimous verdict.  Then it has an appeal system and the defence lawyers can appeal any decision if they have sufficient grounds for an appeal.

The reason why capital punishment is necessary and why it is required in Genesis 9:6 KJV is explained here:

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To serve as a deterrent to murder

The purpose of capital punishment in Genesis 9:6 KJV is to serve as a deterrent to murder and to ensure the continuity of life and the continuation of humanity's role in God's plan for creation. The commandment mandates that the death penalty be imposed on anyone who sheds the blood of another person, as it is a direct affront to God's image in humanity. This commandment is part of a broader context that includes Noah's responsibility to be fruitful and multiply, which would be threatened by murder. The death penalty is also a means to protect the sanctity of life and to uphold the law of God. 

 

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Edited October 16, 2025 by blackbird