Bring back capital punishment with help from MAID.

[Gaétan]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

Read Genesis 9:6 and Romans ch13.

These books are not gospels; Jesus says the opposite of what you're claiming, and I've quoted passages that prove it.

[Barquentine]

On 10/15/2025 at 2:41 PM, blackbird said:

The state has the right to execute murderers.

Not in Canada.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/policy/innocence:

Since 1973, at least 200 people who were wrongly convicted and sentenced to death in the U.S. have been exonerated.

Benjamin Franklin: "it is better a hundred guilty persons should escape than one innocent person should suffer."

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Not in Canada.

The state does have the right if it so chooses to pass a law to bring in capital punishment. 

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Since 1973, at least 200 people who were wrongly convicted and sentenced to death in the U.S. have been exonerated.

You are quoting U.S. statistics which is not similar to Canada's at all.    I did a search but am unable to locate the actual statistics in Canada to show the number of wrongful convictions for murder charges.  But one website lists ten prominent wrongful convictions since 1969.  That is over a period of 56 years.

How many people do you think have been murdered in Canada in the past 56 years?  Probably in the thousands.  So if the justice system is modified to reduce the number of mistakes, it may be possible to save a lot of lives with capital punishment as a deterrent.  Otherwise we are approaching a thousand people a year being murdered with no capital punishment.  Where is your concern for these people?

These are the number of homicide victims in Canada from 2014 to 2023:

525

612

619

669

664

691

765

801

882

778

If the legal system was set up to be very precise in the trial of those accused of murder, there is no reason why it should not be accurate.

Do you think it is reasonable to allow killers to kill seven or eight hundred people a year with no capital punishment.   Capital punishment may reduce that figure considerably.

[blackbird]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

I view religion, especially yours, as a psychotic delusion that is a threat to our society's well being and I don't want it influencing or guiding our government or any of its institutions in any way shape or form whatsoever. We might as well be adding LSD to the public's water systems.

That is a really ignorant comment.  Our whole system of parliamentary democracy and laws respecting human rights evolved over time because our society is built on Judeo-Christian principles.  You have not studied anything on how our western society came to be and have your head in the sand.  So you believe Socialist-liberal ideology instead and progressivism which has being destroying our society in many ways.  We now have school kids being taught in schools it is alright to change their gender and become a trans kid.  Also, it is kept secret from the parents.

Every person in society has their own beliefs, which they have a right to and every politician has their personal beliefs which determine how they vote in some cases.

Liberalism is destroying our Judeo-Christian civilization with its belief in things like multiculturalism, same sex marriage, MAID, abortion, etc. etc.   The family structure is being attacked and weakened in every way possible because liberals do not believe in it.  Do we need to point these evil things out?  You should be able to put 2 and 2 together and see it yourself.  Belief in the Bible and our historic Judeo-Christian principles of justice instead of the liberal belief of soft-on-crime is the only thing that is preventing complete chaos in society.  We are in a deep mess now with criminals getting off or very light sentences.  Illicit drug deaths are out of control and there is rampant crime on the streets of many cities.  Nobody is safe.

Edited October 17, 2025 by blackbird

[eyeball]

57 minutes ago, blackbird said:

our society is built on Judeo-Christian principles

Likely handed down by Neanderthals. You seem to be utterly oblivious to the fact humans have always known how to act humanely towards one another.

Religion is really arrogant that way.

[Gaétan]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

That is a really ignorant comment.  Our whole system of parliamentary democracy and laws respecting human rights evolved over time because our society is built on Judeo-Christian principles.  You have not studied anything on how our western society came to be and have your head in the sand.  So you believe Socialist-liberal ideology instead and progressivism which has being destroying our society in many ways.  We now have school kids being taught in schools it is alright to change their gender and become a trans kid.  Also, it is kept secret from the parents.

Every person in society has their own beliefs, which they have a right to and every politician has their personal beliefs which determine how they vote in some cases.

Liberalism is destroying our Judeo-Christian civilization with its belief in things like multiculturalism, same sex marriage, MAID, abortion, etc. etc.   The family structure is being attacked and weakened in every way possible because liberals do not believe in it.  Do we need to point these evil things out?  You should be able to put 2 and 2 together and see it yourself.  Belief in the Bible and our historic Judeo-Christian principles of justice instead of the liberal belief of soft-on-crime is the only thing that is preventing complete chaos in society.  We are in a deep mess now with criminals getting off or very light sentences.  Illicit drug deaths are out of control and there is rampant crime on the streets of many cities.  Nobody is safe.

People who think like you are leading our planet to 90% destruction and depopulation. It's too late to reduce pollution. Jesus told us how to survive, and you're quoting verses from the Old Testament that the devil dictated to Moses to exterminate us. The first thing we must do to survive is get rid of money; you cannot serve two masters—God and money. Jn 3,19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

[blackbird]

57 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Likely handed down by Neanderthals. You seem to be utterly oblivious to the fact humans have always known how to act humanely towards one another.

Religion is really arrogant that way.

No, humans have not acted humanely towards one another.   Take a look at the rest of the world like Russia, China, and the middle east where there was no Judeo-Christian civilization.  The slaughtered each other endlessly.  They still don't respect human rights in many places, while the west has democracy and human rights.  There is nothing arrogant about respecting your fellow man as Biblical Christians try to do.  The west has been far better off that way.  Try living in China, North Korea or Iran and see how you like it.

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, blackbird said:

There is nothing arrogant about respecting your fellow man as Biblical Christians try to do

What's arrogant is proclaiming only you Biblical Christians know how to be humane.

[herbie]

15 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Is it murder ? Can you murder terrorists

So it saems. You just have to claim drug smugglers are terrorists and murder them with out any proof of them being either.
It used to be they had to be actual known terrorists to murder them, but standards decrease by the day.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

What's arrogant is proclaiming only you Biblical Christians know how to be humane.

Christians are motivated because they are sons of God and believe it is their duty.   Nothing arrogant about that.

What motivates you to act the way you do?

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

So it saems. You just have to claim drug smugglers are terrorists and murder them with out any proof of them being either.
It used to be they had to be actual known terrorists to murder them, but standards decrease by the day.

You seem to think that the US air force is flying around waiting to bomb anything that looks like a boat....without any evidence of any criminal activity...To maintain the level of drugs n US/Canada streets these boats would have to run 24/7 ...the fact there has only been three boats attack might suggest they (the air force) are being selective.....

If they are smuggling drugs then they are terrorist targets, No murder, but rather justice served....the last boat to be sunk was a Cartel made sub....i know it could have been anyone smuggling in coconuts....or beauty products in a SUB. 

 

[eyeball]

20 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Christians are motivated because they are sons of God and believe it is their duty.   Nothing arrogant about that.

What motivates you to act the way you do?

Humanism...science...my grandkids...

Pure arrogance I guess.

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

You seem to think that the US air force is flying around waiting to bomb anything that looks like a boat.

I don't. But I do know the US Navy is murdering people on the high seas with the official sanction of the White House which is against the laws of every nation on Earth. They can board and arrest smugglers in US waters/ but not kill them there either.
Would it be okay if I ran blew up boats off the coast of Kenya because they claimed they were bringing illegal Bibles to Iran? Or if Israel simply blew up and killed Greta Thunberg and her convoy off the coast of Greece?
Is it that you simply want to kill people you don't like?

[Gaétan]

Trump preaches death for killers, yet walks free despite blood on his own hands. The police turn a blind eye, because the U.S. justice system is a cesspool of corruption—worse than hell.

[blackbird]

On 10/15/2025 at 5:10 PM, eyeball said:

you'll need to prove God exists - or you certainly should be required to prove it.

I thought you opposed mixing religion with politics;  yet that is exactly what Carney is doing with his two-state solution for Israel.  You are ok with that no doubt, but oppose any Bible believer from having any say in politics.

Carney who is a devout Catholic is persecuting Israel.   The Catholic Church has been persecuting Jews all through history in Europe.   That culminated in the Holocaust and death of six million Jews in Europe at the hands of Hitler and the Nazis who the Vatican signed a Concordat with.

The Catholic Church doesn't believe Israel has a right to exist and Carney, being a devout Catholic, follows whatever Rome says on Israel and proclaims he recognizes two states.  Carney thinks he is following God but that's not what God says in the Bible.  There is no dividing Israel into two states even hinted at in the Bible.  It is purely an invention of the Catholic Church to claim more authority and recognition for themselves as they have done for 1,500 years.  The Pope would move his headquarters to Jerusalem if he had the chance.   Don't believe it?  Do some investigation and find out.

 

Edited October 18, 2025 by blackbird

[WestCanMan]

On 10/16/2025 at 6:12 PM, Gaétan said:

It's not I who celebrate people's deaths, but those who have died. Death is a pleasure and a joy,, a wedding according to Jesus

Holy f'ing "the police need to look in this guy's crawlspace", Batman.

[blackbird]

On 10/17/2025 at 4:00 AM, Gaétan said:

These books are not gospels; Jesus says the opposite of what you're claiming, and I've quoted passages that prove it.

Jesus wrote the whole Bible.

[blackbird]

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[Gaétan]

18 hours ago, blackbird said:

Jesus wrote the whole Bible.

Why would he have come to Earth if what he had to say was already written in the Old Testament? In fact, he came to correct what the devil dictated to Moses.

[Gaétan]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

Families of violent crime victims call bail reform long overdue | Watch

Victims want to punish the faults of others, but obviously not their own—and you call that justice? Justice is treating your neighbor the way you want to be treated.

[Barquentine]

On 10/17/2025 at 12:22 PM, blackbird said:

Capital punishment may reduce that figure considerably

No it won't.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-states

"States Without the Death Penalty Have Better Record on Homicide Rates. A new survey by the New York Times found that states with­out the death penalty have lower homicide rates than states with the death penalty.

When comparisons are made between states with the death penalty and states without, the majority of death penalty states show murder rates higher than non-death penalty states."

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

Why would he have come to Earth if what he had to say was already written in the Old Testament? In fact, he came to correct what the devil dictated to Moses.

Jesus and the Apostles quoted the Old Testament.  Jesus quoted many verses from the Old Testament.

Here they are:

Old Testament Reference	Theme or Citation	New Testament Reference
Gen. 1:27	God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.	Matt. 19:4; Mark 10:6
Gen. 2:24	A man shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.	Matt. 19:5; Mark 10:7–8
Ex. 3:6	I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.	Matt. 22:32; Mark 12:26; Luke 20:37
Ex. 20:12; Deut. 5:16	Honour thy father and thy mother.	Matt. 15:4; 19:19; Mark 7:10; 10:19; Luke 18:20
Ex. 20:13–16; Deut. 5:17–20	Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness.	Matt. 19:18; Luke 18:20; Mark 10:19
Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9	He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.	Matt. 15:4; Mark 7:10
Ex. 21:24; Lev. 24:20	Eye for eye, tooth for tooth.	Matt. 5:38
Lev. 19:18	Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.	Matt. 5:43; 19:19; 22:39; Mark 12:31; Luke 10:27
Deut. 6:4	Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.	Mark 12:29
Deut. 6:5; 10:12; 30:6	Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.	Matt. 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27
Deut. 6:13; 10:20	Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and serve him.	Matt. 4:10; Luke 4:8
Deut. 6:16	Ye shall not tempt the Lord your God.	Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12
Deut. 8:3	Man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord.	Matt. 4:4; Luke 4:4
Deut. 17:6; 19:15	At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.	Matt. 18:16; John 8:17
Ps. 6:8	Depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.	Matt. 7:23; Luke 13:27
Ps. 8:2	Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength.	Matt. 21:16
Ps. 22:1	My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?	Matt. 27:46; Mark 15:34
Ps. 31:5	Into thine hand I commit my spirit.	Luke 23:46
Ps. 35:19; 69:4	They that hate me without a cause.	John 15:25
Ps. 37:11	The meek shall inherit the earth.	Matt. 5:5
Ps. 41:9	Mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.	John 13:18
Ps. 82:6	I have said, Ye are gods.	John 10:34
Ps. 110:1	The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.	Matt. 22:44; Mark 12:36; Luke 20:42–43
Ps. 118:22–23	The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.	Matt. 21:42; Mark 12:10–11; Luke 20:17
Ps. 118:26	Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord.	Matt. 23:39; Luke 13:35
Isa. 6:9–10	Lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.	Matt. 13:14–15; Mark 4:12; Luke 8:10; John 12:40
Isa. 13:10	The stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.	Matt. 24:29; Mark 13:24–25
Isa. 29:13	His people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men.	Matt. 15:8–9; Mark 7:6–7
Isa. 35:5–6	The eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing.	Matt. 11:5; Luke 7:22
Isa. 53:12	He was numbered with the transgressors.	Luke 22:37
Isa. 54:13	And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord.	John 6:45
Isa. 56:7	For mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.	Matt. 21:13; Mark 11:17; Luke 19:46
Isa. 61:1–2	The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.	Luke 4:18–19
Isa. 66:24	For their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched.	Mark 9:44, 46, 48
Jer. 7:11	Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes?	Matt. 21:13; Mark 11:17; Luke 19:46
Jer. 22:5	This house shall become a desolation.	Matt. 23:38; Luke 13:35
Dan. 7:13	One like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven.	Matt. 16:28; Mark 13:26; Luke 21:27
Dan. 9:27	And for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.	Matt. 24:15; Mark 13:14
Dan. 12:3	And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament.	Matt. 13:43
Dan. 7:13	One like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven.	Matt. 16:28; Mark 13:26; Luke 21:27
Dan. 9:27	And for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.	Matt. 24:15; Mark 13:14
Dan. 12:3	And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament.	Matt. 13:43
Hosea 6:6	I desired mercy, and not sacrifice.	Matt. 9:13; 12:7
Hosea 10:8	They shall say to the mountains, Cover us; and to the hills, Fall on us.	Luke 23:30
Jonah 1:17	Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.	Matt. 12:40
Micah 7:6	The son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house.	Matt. 10:35–36
Zech. 13:7	Smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered.	Matt. 26:31; Mark 14:27
Mal. 3:1	I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me.	Matt. 11:10; Luke 7:27

 

[blackbird]

43 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

No it won't.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-states

"States Without the Death Penalty Have Better Record on Homicide Rates. A new survey by the New York Times found that states with­out the death penalty have lower homicide rates than states with the death penalty.

When comparisons are made between states with the death penalty and states without, the majority of death penalty states show murder rates higher than non-death penalty states."

That doesn't prove anything.  There could be other reasons why the murder rates are higher in some states than others.   You know well that the murder rates are higher in some cities than others.  

Capital punishment could act as a deterrent in some cases.  That is just common sense.

Secondly, if a murderer receives capital punishment, one thing is sure....he is not going to do it again.

That is very important because dangerous offenders have been let out early on parole and murdered other people. 

Edited October 19, 2025 by blackbird

[Gaétan]

58 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Jesus and the Apostles quoted the Old Testament.  Jesus quoted many verses from the Old Testament.

Here they are:

Old Testament Reference	Theme or Citation	New Testament Reference
Gen. 1:27	God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.	Matt. 19:4; Mark 10:6
Gen. 2:24	A man shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.	Matt. 19:5; Mark 10:7–8
Ex. 3:6	I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.	Matt. 22:32; Mark 12:26; Luke 20:37
Ex. 20:12; Deut. 5:16	Honour thy father and thy mother.	Matt. 15:4; 19:19; Mark 7:10; 10:19; Luke 18:20
Ex. 20:13–16; Deut. 5:17–20	Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness.	Matt. 19:18; Luke 18:20; Mark 10:19
Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9	He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.	Matt. 15:4; Mark 7:10
Ex. 21:24; Lev. 24:20	Eye for eye, tooth for tooth.	Matt. 5:38
Lev. 19:18	Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.	Matt. 5:43; 19:19; 22:39; Mark 12:31; Luke 10:27
Deut. 6:4	Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.	Mark 12:29
Deut. 6:5; 10:12; 30:6	Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.	Matt. 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27
Deut. 6:13; 10:20	Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and serve him.	Matt. 4:10; Luke 4:8
Deut. 6:16	Ye shall not tempt the Lord your God.	Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12
Deut. 8:3	Man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord.	Matt. 4:4; Luke 4:4
Deut. 17:6; 19:15	At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.	Matt. 18:16; John 8:17
Ps. 6:8	Depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.	Matt. 7:23; Luke 13:27
Ps. 8:2	Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength.	Matt. 21:16
Ps. 22:1	My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?	Matt. 27:46; Mark 15:34
Ps. 31:5	Into thine hand I commit my spirit.	Luke 23:46
Ps. 35:19; 69:4	They that hate me without a cause.	John 15:25
Ps. 37:11	The meek shall inherit the earth.	Matt. 5:5
Ps. 41:9	Mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.	John 13:18
Ps. 82:6	I have said, Ye are gods.	John 10:34
Ps. 110:1	The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.	Matt. 22:44; Mark 12:36; Luke 20:42–43
Ps. 118:22–23	The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.	Matt. 21:42; Mark 12:10–11; Luke 20:17
Ps. 118:26	Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord.	Matt. 23:39; Luke 13:35
Isa. 6:9–10	Lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.	Matt. 13:14–15; Mark 4:12; Luke 8:10; John 12:40
Isa. 13:10	The stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.	Matt. 24:29; Mark 13:24–25
Isa. 29:13	His people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men.	Matt. 15:8–9; Mark 7:6–7
Isa. 35:5–6	The eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing.	Matt. 11:5; Luke 7:22
Isa. 53:12	He was numbered with the transgressors.	Luke 22:37
Isa. 54:13	And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord.	John 6:45
Isa. 56:7	For mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.	Matt. 21:13; Mark 11:17; Luke 19:46
Isa. 61:1–2	The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.	Luke 4:18–19
Isa. 66:24	For their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched.	Mark 9:44, 46, 48
Jer. 7:11	Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes?	Matt. 21:13; Mark 11:17; Luke 19:46
Jer. 22:5	This house shall become a desolation.	Matt. 23:38; Luke 13:35
Dan. 7:13	One like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven.	Matt. 16:28; Mark 13:26; Luke 21:27
Dan. 9:27	And for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.	Matt. 24:15; Mark 13:14
Dan. 12:3	And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament.	Matt. 13:43
Dan. 7:13	One like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven.	Matt. 16:28; Mark 13:26; Luke 21:27
Dan. 9:27	And for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.	Matt. 24:15; Mark 13:14
Dan. 12:3	And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament.	Matt. 13:43
Hosea 6:6	I desired mercy, and not sacrifice.	Matt. 9:13; 12:7
Hosea 10:8	They shall say to the mountains, Cover us; and to the hills, Fall on us.	Luke 23:30
Jonah 1:17	Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.	Matt. 12:40
Micah 7:6	The son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house.	Matt. 10:35–36
Zech. 13:7	Smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered.	Matt. 26:31; Mark 14:27
Mal. 3:1	I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me.	Matt. 11:10; Luke 7:27

 

If the Old Testament says, "This is a house," and Jesus says, "This is a house," that doesn't mean he quoted the Old Testament.

[Venandi]

55 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

If the Old Testament says, "This is a house," and Jesus says, "This is a house," that doesn't mean he quoted the Old Testament.

Ya, but your logic only makes sense if you also assert that because Black Mambas drink water and men drink water that Black Mambas must be men as a result of it.

These are scary brutes that kill some 20,000 people every year in Africa. Personally, I'd say these hideous, aggressive, and toxic critters act more like dogmatic progressives than snakes... but that might just be me. 

 

 

Edited October 19, 2025 by Venandi