Trump’s Latest Flip Flop: says can take back Russian-occupied territory

[BeaverFever]

Trump’s about-face on Ukraine baffles leaders on both sides of conflict
 

 

…Mr. Trump posted Tuesday on his Truth Social platform that “after getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation” he believed that – with the support of the European Union and NATO – Ukraine “is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form.”

It was yet another stark reversal on Russia and Ukraine from Mr. Trump, who came to office boasting that he could end the war in 24 hours. As recently as the Aug. 19 meeting in the White House – which followed a face-to-face summit in Alaska with Russian President Vladimir Putin – Mr. Trump was pushing Ukraine to accept a peace deal that would allow Russia to keep the roughly 20 per cent of Ukrainian territory it has conquered since February, 2022.

Mr. Trump has also whiplashed between blaming Mr. Zelensky and his own predecessor, Joe Biden, for “starting” a war he viewed as unwinnable (Mr. Putin instigated the conflict by ordering an full-scale invasion of Ukraine), and expressing disappointment with Mr. Putin’s unwillingness to make peace.

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115255130298104593

 

 

[BeaverFever]

I guess Putin wouldn’t buy a membership in the Trump family “Executive Branch ” bribe club.   Either way, 3 amd a half years late is better than never. Going to be fun watching all the Putin-supporting MAGA cultists suddenly explain their flip flop. 

[LinkSoul60]

34 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

 

Trump’s about-face on Ukraine baffles leaders on both sides of conflict
 

 

…Mr. Trump posted Tuesday on his Truth Social platform that “after getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation” he believed that – with the support of the European Union and NATO – Ukraine “is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form.”

 

It was yet another stark reversal on Russia and Ukraine from Mr. Trump, who came to office boasting that he could end the war in 24 hours. As recently as the Aug. 19 meeting in the White House – which followed a face-to-face summit in Alaska with Russian President Vladimir Putin – Mr. Trump was pushing Ukraine to accept a peace deal that would allow Russia to keep the roughly 20 per cent of Ukrainian territory it has conquered since February, 2022.

Mr. Trump has also whiplashed between blaming Mr. Zelensky and his own predecessor, Joe Biden, for “starting” a war he viewed as unwinnable (Mr. Putin instigated the conflict by ordering an full-scale invasion of Ukraine), and expressing disappointment with Mr. Putin’s unwillingness to make peace.

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115255130298104593

 

 

Clearly, a winning strategy that will ultimately get him that coveted Nobel Peace Prize.  He's so deserving....

[Shady]

18 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

I guess Putin wouldn’t buy a membership in the Trump family “Executive Branch ” bribe club.   Either way, 3 amd a half years late is better than never. Going to be fun watching all the Putin-supporting MAGA cultists suddenly explain their flip flop. 

At least Trump is trying.  Biden did nothing.

[SpankyMcFarland]

All these contradictory statements erode American credibility. 

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, Shady said:

At least Trump is trying.  Biden did nothing.

LMAO That’s some premium gaslighting there!  5 minutes ago Trump and and his cult were supporting Putin while complaining “war monger” Biden was prolonging the war and bankrupting America by supporting Ukraine. 
 

NOW it’s “Trump is trying to support Ukraine while Biden did nothing”. Seriously do you actually believe your own bullshit? 

Where’s @Nationalist@taxmeand @WestCanMan?

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO That’s some premium gaslighting there!  5 minutes ago Trump and and his cult were supporting Putin while complaining “war monger” Biden was prolonging the war and bankrupting America by supporting Ukraine. 
 

NOW it’s “Trump is trying to support Ukraine while Biden did nothing”. Seriously do you actually believe your own bullshit? 

Where’s @Nationalist@taxmeand @WestCanMan?

I do not like everything Trump does, and in this case, I am not pleased.

Now you know where I am.

[WestCanMan]

On 9/26/2025 at 8:29 PM, BeaverFever said:

LMAO That’s some premium gaslighting there!  5 minutes ago Trump and and his cult were supporting Putin while complaining “war monger” Biden was prolonging the war and bankrupting America by supporting Ukraine. 
 

NOW it’s “Trump is trying to support Ukraine while Biden did nothing”. Seriously do you actually believe your own bullshit? 

Where’s @Nationalist@taxmeand @WestCanMan?

Biden did nothing "to end the war". If that's what he was saying then he was 100.0% correct.

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Biden did nothing "to end the war". If that's what he was saying then he was 100.0% correct.

Churchill did nothing to end the war either, except vow to win it. 
 

Now do you agree with your cult leader’s new 180 on Ukraine now or are you still cheering for Putin?

[August1991]

On 9/26/2025 at 2:36 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:

All these contradictory statements erode American credibility. 

Huh? Disagree. America has nothing to do with this war.

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This is a stupid civil war between stubborn Slavs.

It should never have started.

 

[WestCanMan]

16 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Churchill did nothing to end the war either, except vow to win it. 
 

Now do you agree with your cult leader’s new 180 on Ukraine now or are you still cheering for Putin?

I just want the war to end, because it's senseless now. 

You can be on whatever side you want, and spew as much stupidity as you want, and make as many childish insults as you want. I don't really care what you say, Beave.

[taxme]

On 9/26/2025 at 8:29 PM, BeaverFever said:

LMAO That’s some premium gaslighting there!  5 minutes ago Trump and and his cult were supporting Putin while complaining “war monger” Biden was prolonging the war and bankrupting America by supporting Ukraine. 
 

NOW it’s “Trump is trying to support Ukraine while Biden did nothing”. Seriously do you actually believe your own bullshit? 

Where’s @Nationalist@taxmeand @WestCanMan?

Hey dummy. Your hero Carnage the destroyer has already given over $20 billion of our Canadian tax dollars to your other hero comrade Zelensky the crooked thief. Tax dollars stolen from the Canadian taxpayers that should have stayed in Canada and help Canadians first. The warmonger here is Carnage the destroyer. Eat that, comrade. 🤮

[BeaverFever]

On 9/29/2025 at 3:04 PM, WestCanMan said:

I just want the war to end, because it's senseless now. 

You can be on whatever side you want, and spew as much stupidity as you want, and make as many childish insults as you want. I don't really care what you say, Beave.

LMAO the person spewing the stupidity was YOU with you ridiculous nonsense about Ukrainian bioweapons and secret plans to invade Russia. Now you’re completely deflated 

Funny how you don’t want peace in Gaza. You’re not fooling anyone with you fake peace activism. 

20 hours ago, taxme said:

Hey dummy. Your hero Carnage the destroyer has already given over $20 billion of our Canadian tax dollars to your other hero comrade Zelensky the crooked thief. Tax dollars stolen from the Canadian taxpayers that should have stayed in Canada and help Canadians first. The warmonger here is Carnage the destroyer. Eat that, comrade. 🤮

In other words you’re still drinking the batshit Putin warmonger Kool-aid and you condemn Trump’s new policy of  supporting Ukraine?

Edited October 2, 2025 by BeaverFever

[taxme]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO the person spewing the stupidity was YOU with you ridiculous nonsense about Ukrainian bioweapons and secret plans to invade Russia. Now you’re completely deflated 

Funny how you don’t want peace in Gaza. You’re not fooling anyone with you fake peace activism. 

In other words you’re still drinking the batshit Putin warmonger Kool-aid and you condemn Trump’s new policy of  supporting Ukraine?

The cherry flavor tastes great! The bad guy in all of this is not Putin. It is corrupt Nazi Zelensky. If Trump is supporting Ukraine now, than you have me stumped on that one. 

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO the person spewing the stupidity was YOU with you ridiculous nonsense about Ukrainian bioweapons and secret plans to invade Russia. Now you’re completely deflated 

You're such a lying idjit it's disgusting.

1) At no point did I say that NATO was about to attack Russia, stupid

2) I made a very precise and correct statement about bioweapons in Ukraine and provided you ample proof of it. The US and Ukraine were jointly working on cures for bioweapons in Ukraine, and the bioweapons had still not been destroyed at the time of the Russian invasion.

The fact that your "news sources" didn't cover that doesn't mean that you weren't provided with that information.

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Funny how you don’t want peace in Gaza. You’re not fooling anyone with you fake peace activism. 

Wrong again, stupid. 

I'd love an end to the war there, but that doesn't mean "a brief pause while Hamas re-stocks their missiles and continues tunnelling under Israel". 

Only left4rds are dumb enough to believe that Israel can just pull out of Gaza right now and then prepare for another round of this exact same BS 7 years from now. 

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In other words you’re still drinking the batshit Putin warmonger Kool-aid and you condemn Trump’s new policy of  supporting Ukraine?

I personally don't give a shit about the Ukraine war anymore, but I am not in favour of Trump extending his support for Ukraine. I think that just drags it out even longer.

[herbie]

On 9/26/2025 at 11:36 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

All these contradictory statements erode American credibility

Erosion takes many years. More like total disintegration within weeks.

[taxme]

On 10/2/2025 at 1:20 PM, WestCanMan said:

You're such a lying idjit it's disgusting.

1) At no point did I say that NATO was about to attack Russia, stupid

2) I made a very precise and correct statement about bioweapons in Ukraine and provided you ample proof of it. The US and Ukraine were jointly working on cures for bioweapons in Ukraine, and the bioweapons had still not been destroyed at the time of the Russian invasion.

The fact that your "news sources" didn't cover that doesn't mean that you weren't provided with that information.

Wrong again, stupid. 

I'd love an end to the war there, but that doesn't mean "a brief pause while Hamas re-stocks their missiles and continues tunnelling under Israel". 

Only left4rds are dumb enough to believe that Israel can just pull out of Gaza right now and then prepare for another round of this exact same BS 7 years from now. 

I personally don't give a shit about the Ukraine war anymore, but I am not in favour of Trump extending his support for Ukraine. I think that just drags it out even longer.

I believe that no one really cares all that much as to what goes on in Ukraine. I just hate seeing my tax dollars in the billions going to another globalist corrupt country like Ukraine. And that also goes for foreign aid where hundreds of billions of our tax dollars have already been blown and gone to so many 3rd world countries.

We have so many of our own problems here in Canada and those many billions of our tax dollars that have been blown should have been kept in Canada to help Canadians. Foreign aid is just another globalist lieberal racket. The blowing of our Canadian tax dollars will never end as long as the imbeciles keep voting in the globalist spend crazy lieberals in power. The lieberals are truly out to bankrupt Canada. Believe it or not. 

[Army Guy]

America's credibility remains intact...Trumps credibility is the one taking the hit.....

To many nations waiting for America credibility to slip so they may take advantage...The only thing keeping them all in check is the threat of the American military machine...

What has kept this war for going on so long is the reluctance of the US and NATO to provide Ukraine with the latest in state of the art weapons in large numbers...and them trying not to upset the Russians....

[User]

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

What has kept this war for going on so long is the reluctance of the US and NATO to provide Ukraine with the latest in state of the art weapons in large numbers...and them trying not to upset the Russians....

And some European/NATO nations are STILL buying oil from Russia. 

Western nations have lost the will to do what is necessary to win wars since after World War II. 

[August1991]

On 10/2/2025 at 1:42 PM, taxme said:

The cherry flavor tastes great! The bad guy in all of this is not Putin. It is corrupt Nazi Zelensky. If Trump is supporting Ukraine now, than you have me stumped on that one. 

This is a stupid civil war between Slavs.

[SpankyMcFarland]

17 minutes ago, August1991 said:

This is a stupid civil war between Slavs.

It is a war between the free world and Putin. 

[August1991]

13 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

It is a war between the free world and Putin. 

Strongly disagree.

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Reagan defeated the Soviets in 1991.

[User]

9 hours ago, August1991 said:

This is a stupid civil war between Slavs.

You do not live in reality. 

8 hours ago, August1991 said:

Reagan defeated the Soviets in 1991.

He said: 

"It is a war between the free world and Putin. "

[SpankyMcFarland]

I take no pleasure in the prospect of further Russian casualties - there’s only one of them I’d like to see in a box. For the most part, these are young lads who have been thrown into a foreign war that has nothing to do with them. The pre-Communist Russian Empire brought misery, ignorance and pogroms to Europe. There’s no earthly need for a repeat. 

[taxme]

On 10/8/2025 at 9:41 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:

It is a war between the free world and Putin. 

Putin is supposed to be seen as the bad guy because our lying and fake bought off corporate Canadian media tells us and has conditioned the sheeple to think so. Has no one learned anything yet by now that when the lying liberal Canadian MSM attacks and says that Putin is the problem, they should do as i do. Just go the reverse of what the MSM says and then you will know as to who is the real bad guy here. That would be Zelensky the fascist barbarian of course. With the lying leftwing MSM people like Putin, Trump and PP are always seen as the bad hombres here. Phkn ridiculous indeed.