Orangey and The Brainworm Strike Again

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Doctors have already TOLD US: additional knowledge about the autism SPECTRUM has expanded what qualifies.

Liar. 

That explains SOME numbers but autism is still on the rise. 

So there you go. 

Also it seems to be on the rise faster in the USA than canada

Yes

Yes, autism rates are on the rise in the USA. Recent data from the CDC indicates that one in 31 children in the United States are diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder by their 8th birthday. This marks a significant increase from previous years, with rates rising from 1 in 36 in 2020 to 1 in 31 in 2022. The increase is attributed to improved detection, increased awareness, and a broader definition of autism spectrum disorder. 

 

Johns Hopkins University+4

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

On 9/23/2025 at 9:00 AM, gatomontes99 said:

So Harvard isn't good enough for you? Have you ever heard of blind hatred?

I got a hate on for Harvard... really.  You're hanging on one article that says 'may' and 'more research needed' and that's it.  Juxtapose....  You or anyone in your family or those you care for are in need of medical attention or advice.  Who do you call.... Dr Trump or a qualified Doctor of Medicine? 

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, Legato said:

So are you saying there has been no increase in autism?

That's pretty much what the vast majority of medical experts have been saying for years.

Saying the vast majority of experts are wrong is an extraordinary claim that will require extraordinary evidence.

You're saying what Trump and RFK have to say is it? LMAO!

[Hodad]

 

Once upon a time, Americans would have overwhelmingly agreed that it's a good idea to take medical advice from medical experts, and a bad idea to take medical advice from a politician. Particularly someone who LITERALLY can't pronounce the name of the medication about which they are speaking. 

Seriously, if you can't even say "acetaminophen" don't hold a press conference to share with the world your "deep insights" about acetaminophen. Just shut your goddamn mouth and sit down. Full stop.

This is another reminder that these are not normal times. Trump is objectively stupid. Just shockingly dumb. And a reminder that his cultish followers are dumber still.

This is not defensible behavior. How do we stop these people from breeding? How do we get Trump to hold a press conference about the importance of regularly applying intense heat to eliminate bacteria on the testicles? 

 

It's possible that research could one day establish a contributing casual link between pre-natal acetaminophen and neurological conditions, but a few loose correlations (which are old news) are not it, and not cause for a press conference. 

If you're looking for a way to apply research to give your children a better future, maybe stop focusing on sketchy warnings about pain medicine and take some painless steps toward curbing greenhouse gas emissions--the dangers of which are established by an overwhelming scientific consensus approaching unanimity. 
 

[gatomontes99]

6 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I got a hate on for Harvard... really.  You're hanging on one article that says 'may' and 'more research needed' and that's it.  Juxtapose....  You or anyone in your family or those you care for are in need of medical attention or advice.  Who do you call.... Dr Trump or a qualified Doctor of Medicine? 

Wtf are you talking about? Trump isn't the one making the claim there is a link. He's just telling us what Harvard and 26 studies found. And, yes, it is "may cause". So what? Is it not ok to publish information like that? Of course it is. In fact, California demands warning labels for things that with far less evidence than what Harvard just put out. 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

 

Once upon a time, Americans would have overwhelmingly agreed that it's a good idea to take medical advice from medical experts, and a bad idea to take medical advice from a politician. Particularly someone who LITERALLY can't pronounce the name of the medication about which they are speaking. 

Seriously, if you can't even say "acetaminophen" don't hold a press conference to share with the world your "deep insights" about acetaminophen. Just shut your goddamn mouth and sit down. Full stop.

This is another reminder that these are not normal times. Trump is objectively stupid. Just shockingly dumb. And a reminder that his cultish followers are dumber still.

This is not defensible behavior. How do we stop these people from breeding? How do we get Trump to hold a press conference about the importance of regularly applying intense heat to eliminate bacteria on the testicles? 

 

It's possible that research could one day establish a contributing casual link between pre-natal acetaminophen and neurological conditions, but a few loose correlations (which are old news) are not it, and not cause for a press conference. 

If you're looking for a way to apply research to give your children a better future, maybe stop focusing on sketchy warnings about pain medicine and take some painless steps toward curbing greenhouse gas emissions--the dangers of which are established by an overwhelming scientific consensus approaching unanimity. 
 

Once again we see the idiocy and traitorous ideas of Libbies.

They willingly sacrifice their own, just to oppose Trump.

I think some of these traitors should be jailed to force these hate-filled planks to realize the consequences of their insanity. 

[LinkSoul60]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Wtf are you talking about?

I'm talking about him shutting up and letting the medical experts talk about medicine.  Not hard to understand is it?

[Shady]

On 9/22/2025 at 9:24 PM, herbie said:

Tylenol causes autism. Didn't even exist when autism was first defined, but what does that have to do with what these two dementazoids are capable of blurting out.

Day after day the President delivers you another proof of why the 25th should be invoked, and only an army of mindless drones and an utterly spineless GOP Congress prevents it.........

😂😂😂

[Deluge]

On 9/22/2025 at 7:24 PM, herbie said:

Tylenol causes autism. Didn't even exist when autism was first defined, but what does that have to do with what these two dementazoids are capable of blurting out.

Day after day the President delivers you another proof of why the 25th should be invoked, and only an army of mindless drones and an utterly spineless GOP Congress prevents it.........

Whenever I see a jackass post like that, I just think about what might've been and thank God that Trump won.

Isn't that right, cackles?

 

Edited September 25, 2025 by Deluge

[Legato]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's pretty much what the vast majority of medical experts have been saying for years.

Saying the vast majority of experts are wrong is an extraordinary claim that will require extraordinary evidence.

You're saying what Trump and RFK have to say is it? LMAO!

 

[CouchPotato]

CBC in 2020.

 

[Shady]

😂😂😂

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, CouchPotato said:

CBC in 2020.

 

Exactly.

This is 100% political, the pushback now is because trump commented on it. If trump had kept his mouth shut everybody would think this was good advice, limit the use of Tylenol during pregnancy

[herbie]

 The Fanta Fraud's Trumpalos must lick his sphincter at every turn. No matter how stupid. ill informed, or disgusting the man's pergormance is - they're all for it.
Russian trolls and AI bots and traitors to there country rushing to make fools of themselves even faster than their Lord and Master. No human is actually that obstinate and morally crippled.
Roadkill muncher with brainworm and real estate developer giving medical advice that's better than doctors and decades of scientific evidence. How DUH can you get?

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, herbie said:

 The Fanta Fraud's Trumpalos must lick his sphincter at every turn. 

You sure spend a LOT of time imagining things happening to Trump's butt. 

It's like this really weird way of exercising your repressed homosexual denial. 

"I'm so mad at trump I  ... I .... I'm so mad i could just have anal sex with him!!!!! THat's how mad i am!!!"  - Herbie. 

It's just really odd.  We're not here to judge you big guy, you don't have to repress things.  (well....  i mean @Nationalist is here to judge you, but nobody else, except some of the others). 

Anyway follow your dreams, and if you succeed i hope you two will be very happy, sincerely.

[SpankyMcFarland]

22 hours ago, Legato said:

So are you saying there has been no increase in autism?

I’m saying I don’t know. It can be a subtle diagnosis at the edge of spectrum. There’s no question many of those people would not have been classified as autistic thirty years ago. If you have specialists with expertise in diagnosing a disorder, your rates will generally rise. 
 

 

Edited September 25, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I’m saying I don’t know. It can be a subtle diagnosis at the edge of spectrum. There’s no question many of those people would not have been classified as autistic thirty years ago. 
 

 

But they would have been 20 years ago and 10 years ago and we're seeing increases bewtween those periods and now as well. 

[Shady]

[paxamericana]

18 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I’m saying I don’t know. It can be a subtle diagnosis at the edge of spectrum. There’s no question many of those people would not have been classified as autistic thirty years ago. If you have specialists with expertise in diagnosing a disorder, your rates will generally rise. 
 

 

I think that is besides the point. The point being that any drugs that can cross the blood placenta barrier, will affect the fetus. The mechanism while not fully understood does not give green light for safe use. It is better to assume ALL drugs have unwanted side affect then to pretend there are no side affect. That should be the approach to take from a public health and safety perspective. 

[Legato]

44 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But they would have been 20 years ago and 10 years ago and we're seeing increases bewtween those periods and now as well. 

Back in 2017 Tylenol told pregnant women not to use it's medication.

[SpankyMcFarland]

48 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But they would have been 20 years ago and 10 years ago and we're seeing increases bewtween those periods and now as well. 

Awareness of ASD has increased considerably among families and physicians in the last twenty years. The arrival of paediatricians with an interest in the disorder can lead to increased rates of diagnosis in a region. 

Edited September 25, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

31 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

I think that is besides the point. The point being that any drugs that can cross the blood placenta barrier, will affect the fetus. The mechanism while not fully understood does not give green light for safe use. It is better to assume ALL drugs have unwanted side affect then to pretend there are no side affect. That should be the approach to take from a public health and safety perspective. 

Nobody is encouraging pregnant women to take drugs unnecessarily. All drugs have side effects and we can assume many of them are not known. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Liar. 

That explains SOME numbers but autism is still on the rise. 

So there you go. 

Also it seems to be on the rise faster in the USA than canada

Yes

Yes, autism rates are on the rise in the USA. Recent data from the CDC indicates that one in 31 children in the United States are diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder by their 8th birthday. This marks a significant increase from previous years, with rates rising from 1 in 36 in 2020 to 1 in 31 in 2022. The increase is attributed to improved detection, increased awareness, and a broader definition of autism spectrum disorder. 

 

Johns Hopkins University+4

 

 

From the article you quote:

Quote

 

What's behind this increase?

There are two main reasons for the increase. The first is the broadened definition of Autism Spectrum Disorder, which means that more people are meeting this definition now than previously. 

Second, there have been many widely successful public health programs that increased screening at wellness visits for children ages 18–24 months to look for signs of autism. Parents, caregivers, and community members are also more aware of the symptoms, and autism is being more accepted in the community. People are not as afraid to seek help and know where to go when they have concerns. 

 

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We sometimes hear the phrase “epidemic of autism.” How do you feel about that term? 

When I hear the word epidemic, I think of a quick, immediate increase in many individuals who have a certain condition. We’re not seeing that with autism. What we are seeing is a gradual rise over the past 20 years due to broadened diagnostic definitions, better screening, and increased awareness. 

There are still a large number of people in our community with autism, and our focus should be on getting them the services they need to lead healthy lives and reach their full potential.

In my own community, we saw more cases diagnosed when a specialist arrived who had expertise in diagnosing the disorder. In the US paediatricians are making more diagnoses in girls and non-white children than they used to as well. 

To summarize, we have seen a huge rise in diagnosis of the condition. Much of this is down to increased awareness of it and changed criteria to diagnose it. Is there also a fundamental rise in autism itself? The jury is still out on that. 
 

 

 

Edited September 25, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[LinkSoul60]

3 hours ago, Shady said:

😂😂😂

 

Don't read too much, it screws up the narrative... 😂😂😂

Tylenol did share a post in March 2017 that read, in part, "We actually don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant." However, Tylenol maker Kenvue provided additional context to Snopes via email. The company said, in part, that it does not "make recommendations on taking any medications in pregnancy because that is the job of a healthcare provider." It also described the "consumer response" featured in the post as "incomplete," saying it didn't reflect its full guidance on the safe use of Tylenol. The company reiterated that acetaminophen remains safe for women to take as needed during pregnancy, which is in line with other medical experts' recommendations.

Kenvue's full statement is as follows:

We do not make recommendations on taking any medications in pregnancy because that is the job of a healthcare provider.

This eight-year-old consumer response is incomplete and did not address our full guidance on the safe use of Tylenol which has not changed:

• Acetaminophen is the safest pain reliever option for pregnant women as needed throughout their entire pregnancy.

• Our products are safe and effective when used as directed on the product label.

• We recommend pregnant women do not take any over-the-counter medication, including acetaminophen, without talking to their doctor first. 

  https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-contextualizing-2017-tylenol-214700483.html

[paxamericana]

2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Don't read too much, it screws up the narrative... 😂😂😂

Tylenol did share a post in March 2017 that read, in part, "We actually don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant." However, Tylenol maker Kenvue provided additional context to Snopes via email. The company said, in part, that it does not "make recommendations on taking any medications in pregnancy because that is the job of a healthcare provider." It also described the "consumer response" featured in the post as "incomplete," saying it didn't reflect its full guidance on the safe use of Tylenol. The company reiterated that acetaminophen remains safe for women to take as needed during pregnancy, which is in line with other medical experts' recommendations.

 

Kenvue's full statement is as follows:

We do not make recommendations on taking any medications in pregnancy because that is the job of a healthcare provider.

This eight-year-old consumer response is incomplete and did not address our full guidance on the safe use of Tylenol which has not changed:

• Acetaminophen is the safest pain reliever option for pregnant women as needed throughout their entire pregnancy.

• Our products are safe and effective when used as directed on the product label.

• We recommend pregnant women do not take any over-the-counter medication, including acetaminophen, without talking to their doctor first. 

  https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-contextualizing-2017-tylenol-214700483.html

That's a cop out. Tylenol is basically shifting liability to the doctors.