Charlie Kirk shot!

[Shady]

26 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I see the same thing from both sides. 

 

The Minnesota killings caused the same, exact same reaction, from Democrat supporters. 

 

Pretty clear that unless people denounce violence from their own side, nothing is going to happen. 

 

I deplore political violence everywhere, assassination attempts, assaults, and killings. 

The people on here use inflammatory language, calling for the eradication of their opponents.. laughing at violence. 

These same people try to moralize. 

It has me shaking my head.

I'm not talking about you here.

Nobody on the right was arguing that the individuals killed in Minnesota brought it on themselves in some way.  Nobody was cheering it on.  Nobody was celebrating it.  The two sides aren't the same.

[West]

2 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

Yeah, he seems to be shaken when it happens. But the fact that Charlie was shot while discussing the topic of shootings caught my attention, too.

What stands out to me is that the left makes very soft condemnations of these things from their own. It is always downplayed. Antifa doesn't exist. Mostly peaceful protests. Etc. Celebrities have talked about wishing Trump dead. And then look at when someone shot that insurance CEO. People were praising it. Not just unknown whackos either.

 

I believe the word is blame shifting. 

They'll blame Trump or Charlie himself for having a leftist whacko kill him. Sick lot of people 

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, West said:

The Director of National Intelligence just said it was fabricated bullshit. 

The lefts fabricated LIES are what indoctrinated whoever this fool was to assassinate a FATHER OF 2 UNDER 5. Sick stuff

To recap

1. The Biden administration put out an illegal EO that demonized the unvaccinated and caused them to lose their jobs. He then put out more illegal EOs restricting travel. 

2. The California governor targeted churches with covid fines AND THEN GOT HIS ASS KICKED IN COURT

3. The left put out a fabricated dossier knowing the contents proved no collusion, led the country to believe their government was compromised, and then tried to fabricated more bullshit to remove a duly elected president

4. They then tried to incarcerate a former president on fraudulent charges. 

5. It was when it was apparent they were bound to LOSE the election that attempts were taken on trumps life. 

6. Now, one of the big mobilizers amount a younger demographic is ASSASSINATED after many of his cabinet picks have been accused of heinous sex crimes. 

ONLY FOOLS CANT SEE THE TRUTH

Believing what Gabbard says as DEMANDED by PATHOLOGICAL LIAR Trump is a fools errand.

You have entered the truth free zone. Get out before it's TOO LATE.

We KNOW you still believe FOS LIES, which has NO CREDIBILITY ever since they HAD TO PAY $800M for LYING.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

@Chrissy1979 Well Chrissy-Baby...only now, in the midst of tragedy, do you see which of the 2 political sides embraces honor and respect. While the other will turn on you if you step out of line.

There's a reason for this of course. Hatred and power are all the Libbies know. For instance...

Libbies will often accuse Conservatives of being enthralled by Trump. I believe even you have done such. The truth of the matter is, many Conservatives...and Independents...analyze both sides and realize the Democrat party has become enthralled...not by a person, but by an ideology that promotes pure hatred and worships power. Search your soul and you'll know I'm right.

What else could make a sitting POTUS simply invite millions to flood the USA? What else could drive thousands to burn down parts of cities over a common criminal? What else could make people willingly impose censorship of any idea that they dont like?

No Chrissy...most of us dont love Trump. Many of us are actually repulsed by his mannerisms. 

But the alternative is destructive and nonsensical. 

Yes, YOUR VIEW of reality is destructive and nonsensical. NO ONE "invited" immigrants. There was NO NEED because they're ALWAYS desperate TO COME HERE to ESCAPE the GANG LIFE at HOME. THINK!

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, paxamericana said:

No. Thoughts and prayers is the first response. Guns didn’t kill Charlie, it was hatred. Hatred that exist in our society, hatred that exist in our discord with one another. That’s what killed Kirk. No amount of legal action can stop that hatred. 

Nope. Hatred of the dismantling of the Constitution BY VIOLENCE at Trump's DIRECTION on Jan 6th.

His PARDONS of HIS GOONS, PROVES they did EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

I had no idea that the left has become so deranged.  The events of yesterday have really been eye opening.  It's very very scary.

You don't even know who the killer was, but keep pretending you do.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

What is needed now, is for all people of both sides, to demand this assassin be caught and, regardless of his excuses, be either locked up till he dies, or executed WITHOUT 30 years of appeals.

Come together people. The alternative will get uglier than you really want.

Because you believe killing him quickly will not look VERY SUSPICIOUS? LMAO

[User]

Just now, robosmith said:

You don't even know who the killer was, but keep pretending you do.

We can make some pretty safe assumptions and based on leaked ATF documents the killer put trans messages on the ammo. 

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Nope. Hatred of the dismantling of the Constitution BY VIOLENCE at Trump's DIRECTION on Jan 6th.

His PARDONS of HIS GOONS, PROVES they did EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED.

Jan 6 is the only thing you retards cling to, and it wasn't even what you thought it was. lol

Nothing changes the fact that the democrat party is what drives hate and lawlessness in this country. 

[User]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Nope. Hatred of the dismantling of the Constitution BY VIOLENCE at Trump's DIRECTION on Jan 6th.

His PARDONS of HIS GOONS, PROVES they did EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED.

Trump didn’t direct any violence. Why are you here shitting all over this thread with your usual BS?

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

That's sub-human. Cheering for the assassination of a guy who just wanted to debate.

Kirk debating is a professional BULLY beating up on the unprepared.

[TreeBeard]

Just now, User said:

We can make some pretty safe assumptions and based on leaked ATF documents the killer put trans messages on the ammo. 

If that’s a conspiracy theory (it certainly sounds like it is), will you feel silly later that you believed it? 
 

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You don't even know who the killer was, but keep pretending you do.

You don't know anything, but keep pretending you do.  

[Chrissy1979]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If there was ever any doubt that leftard ringleaders in the MSM wholeheartedly support violence, terrorism, and the assassinations of political opponents, it is gone now. 

Or Kirk wouldn’t shut up about the Epstein files, and MAGA needed a galvanizing event to declare war and suspend the elections. 
 

[robosmith]

33 minutes ago, West said:

I believe the word is blame shifting. 

They'll blame Trump or Charlie himself for having a leftist whacko kill him. Sick lot of people 

You are jumping to conclusions about things you know NOT.

[Shady]

It does, and it’s not a very good look for the left today.  They need to do some serious introspection.

 

[robosmith]

Just now, Shady said:

It does, and it’s not a very good look for the left today.  They need to do some serious introspection.

 

I'll bet a LOT of people cheered when Hitler was declared DEAD. Even though he probably escaped to South America (because no one saw his body outside of the people who helped him get out).

[Chrissy1979]

5 minutes ago, Shady said:

It does, and it’s not a very good look for the left today.  They need to do some serious introspection.

 

You don’t even know who shot him.

[Deluge]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Kirk debating is a professional BULLY beating up on the unprepared.

So he didn't deserve to live anymore? 

You are such a dumbass. 

[User]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Kirk debating is a professional BULLY beating up on the unprepared.

No one forces them to approach him or the microphone. They can be as prepared as they want to be. Yet again, you spew BS. 

[WestCanMan]

50 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I see the same thing from both sides. 

 

The Minnesota killings caused the same, exact same reaction, from Democrat supporters. 

 

Pretty clear that unless people denounce violence from their own side, nothing is going to happen. 

 

I deplore political violence everywhere, assassination attempts, assaults, and killings. 

The people on here use inflammatory language, calling for the eradication of their opponents.. laughing at violence. 

These same people try to moralize. 

It has me shaking my head.

I'm not talking about you here.

Stop with the false equivalency, Mike.

1. Dem followers have been killing political opponents with metronome consitency going back a decade now
2. Dems have shown unflinching support of violent riots going back over a decade, even though those riots included killing people and burning down homes and businesses. There are easily 500,000 examples of that from leftist political leaders and their MSM lackeys
3. Dems showed no remorse when the WH was attacked
4. Dems openly called for their political opponents to be harassed in public
5. Dems called it comedy when their acolytes posted severed-head effigies and called for the assassination of Trump
6. Dem talking heads on their major "news" networks poked fun at Trump's ear thing and then tried to pretend that he was never hit by a bullet. Somehow they think that he just miraculously started bleeding at that exact moment. It's demonic (is the root word of demonic "dem"?)

You wanna point to one incident from the other side and say "both sides are doing it"? 

BS like that is why no one takes you seriously, MH. That, and the fact that you wave Justin Trudeau pom-poms and cite the CBC as if they're a news network, and then you pretend to be a conservative. 

 

The left has led the charge towards racial division and political violence for over a decade. Leftists like to pretend that "all whiteys cisgender white males wanted native kids to be molested in residential schools, and that is the only reason why they were created", they pretend that a bunch of tree-roots are a mass grave for over a year without even bothering to check (the FBI and RCMP exhume bodies all the time for evidence), the left pretends that only white people have ever owned slaves and blacks and muslims never did, leftards pretended that M Brown was a gentle giant who was just minding his own business and was murdered by a racist cop - to help incite several months of violent rioting - even though that was proven to be 100% false within hours of the shooting, etc etc, etc.

I'm being honest Mikey: leftist leaders, on average, are extremely vile people. What Trudeau said about the unvaxed was utterly repugnant, and if he said that about black people or muslims his career would have ended instantly. His credulous support of the hijab hoax and his subsequent doubling-down on accusations against Canadians was equally disgusting. The fact that leftist leaders, as a bloc, all ignore the chants of "from the river to the sea" or "what do we want? Dead Cops!!! When do we want it? Now!!!!" and "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon", etc, is just outrageous.  

Your leaders are absolutely disgusting people, Mike. You have no excuse for them. 

The violence that you are seeing was engineered by their support of all those things above. How could you have political and racial harmony in the face of all the Dems'/Libs' incitement, violent rhetoric, and support for political violence that includes murders? At some point, if you want the violence to stop, you haveto stop rewarding the people who incite and support it, don't ya think?

[User]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I'll bet a LOT of people cheered when Hitler was declared DEAD. Even though he probably escaped to South America (because no one saw his body outside of the people who helped him get out).

You are unhinged. Now the death of Kirk is like the death of Hitler?

And conspiratorial BS to boot. You are a certifiable nut job. 

17 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

If that’s a conspiracy theory (it certainly sounds like it is), will you feel silly later that you believed it? 
 

Why would this be a conspiracy theory?

I will wait for the full story, but this is already being reported on by major media now. 

[I am Groot]

15 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

I think it's really unfair to compare USA and Canada when it comes to things like this. Canada is a much larger land mass with way fewer people. Canada is like a small town compared to the US. It's like comparing Mayberry to Detroit. And even so, now we see crime rapidly getting worse in Canada. 

We have a pretty good idea of what causes crime, esp violent crime. Unless someone can explain the 'coincidence' that communities/countries with higher levels of single-parent families produce children who are more likely to be criminals. No, it's not a race thing. No, it's not a poverty thing. It's a culture thing.

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1. ..  leftist leaders, on average, are extremely vile people. ...

The violence that you are seeing was engineered by their support of all those things above.  

1. Note that I have stated that there are issues with both sides, and condemned the violence yet you feel a need to box me in as an enemy of some kind.

You, on the other hand, blame "the left".

 

Edited September 11, 2025 by Michael Hardner

[WestCanMan]

16 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Or Kirk wouldn’t shut up about the Epstein files, and MAGA needed a galvanizing event to declare war and suspend the elections. 

After all of the violence that leftist politicians and media lackeys incited and supported, what makes you think that anyone had to pay a conservative to shoot Charlie Kirk?

At the present time, support for Dems and Libs is caving. The US is growing stronger while homelessness and food bank usage in Canada are soaring. What makes you think that conservatives need a war to win the WH or PMO?

What makes you think that Dems and their supporters suddenly lost their lust for political/racial violence?

Judging by the reaction of TMZers at the moment Charlie Kirk was pronounced dead, do you really wanna talk about "which side supports political violence?" right now? 

[I am Groot]

22 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Kirk debating is a professional BULLY beating up on the unprepared.

A professional? Is there a school you go to where they teach debating? I know there are debating societies/clubs but I doubt Kirk got any sort of 'professional' training in debating. Some people are fast thinkers and have facts at their fingertips and some aren't. We can see that in the House of Commons, or on the infrequent debates we see on TV. He debates people a lot and is comfortable in front of crowds. But the same could be said of almost any politician at any level. Should he not let people argue/debate with him? Should he require some sort of experience level before they are allowed to approach the microphone?

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

@Chrissy1979 Well Chrissy-Baby...only now, in the midst of tragedy, do you see which of the 2 political sides embraces honor and respect.

Neither side in the US has any concept of those words.