Charlie Kirk shot!

[paxamericana]

33 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

to stay truly free they will have to take these daunting risks. 

Agreed. It’s my generation responsibility to do so. Though taking calculated risks is preferable. Say doing your public meet and greet at 7am to avoid the crazies.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

My thoughts and prayers are with him.

You got the right wing response to school shootings down pat. 🤮

[User]

33 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Actually the communities where people live actually have higher population densities in Canada than in USA.

People actually live all over in Canada... that is the point of comparing national population density. You always have to play these dumb games with the qualifiers. 

Canada has a much lower population density compared to America. That is just a fact. 

If you want to start quibbling over density in cites... which ones? New York has more than any city in Canada. Significantly more than your most dense city.

 

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You got the right wing response to school shootings down pat. 🤮

It is just an empathetic response to any tragic event. 

Not that you seem to know anything about empathy... 

[West]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You got the right wing response to school shootings down pat. 🤮

Nobody deserves to get shot in the head because they disagree with YOU on your policy. Sick way of thinking

[User]

6 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

When?

I love how you run entirely away from answering for your own lies here to latch on to nitpicking someone on their own false comment... 

 

[robosmith]

Just now, West said:

Nobody deserves to get shot in the head because they disagree with YOU on your policy. Sick way of thinking

Nobody said anyone deserves to get shot, lDIOT.  Nor that "thoughts and prayers" is anywhere near a sufficient response to the continual misuse of firearms.

[Hodad]

Popped back in just for this thread--and it's exactly as expected. This is rather like when Rush Limbaugh died. Kirk was also a professional a$$hole. Like Limbaugh, he made a lot of money spreading lies, sowing hate and driving division. Objectively, the world will be better off without this cog in the hate machine. 

Still, his only "crime" was political speech, and political speech should never be answered with violence. Never. It's a tragic day, but the tragedy isn't the "loss" of Kirk, it's the ongoing erosion of civil discourse, displaced by the brutal expedience of force.

Sadder still, the MAGA crowd won't recognize the irony of this deeply MAGA, "might makes right" moment. A movement headed by a bully who has caused and reveled in political violence has very little room to be outraged by political violence.  

 

 

[West]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Nobody said anyone deserves to get shot, lDIOT.  Nor that "thoughts and prayers" is anywhere near a sufficient response to the continual misuse of firearms.

AND YOU HAVE NO REALISTIC SOLUTIONS

just trying to deflect from the fact leftists are being radicalized to violence. Just like the Khmer Rouge or the folks who did the Genocide in Rwanda. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 minute ago, paxamericana said:

Agreed. It’s my generation responsibility to do so. Though taking calculated risks is preferable. Say doing your public meet and greet at 7am to avoid the crazies.

They’re up already, probably haven’t slept all night. I’d say most of them aren’t out having a good time.
 

As AI looms larger politically for the next generation, in-person meets will be an indispensable oral exam that candidates can’t fake. For a guy as big as Kirk, though, maybe more indoor events with scanning and airport-style pat downs will become the norm? 

[Greg]

13 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I know the alleged distance of the shooter from Kirk that I’ve heard - something like 500-600 feet? - is not impressive for skilled marksmen but it must be a sobering matter for any public speaker to consider. 

 

And what are you implying?

That speakers should be suddenly worried to voice an opinion?

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I never did but there was an element of safety in that he was not seriously harmed. And I think it's a different matter when you basically excuse the murder of someone, especially, given this is a site that wants political debate, someone who wanted political debate.

Fractured skull was SERIOUS. He could have easily been killed.

[User]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Popped back in just for this thread--and it's exactly as expected. This is rather like when Rush Limbaugh died. Kirk was also a professional a$$hole.

Yeah, I bet it was just like when Limbaugh died... with the folks like you being the professional a$$holes, just like you are being now. 

 

[Shady]

[User]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Nor that "thoughts and prayers" is anywhere near a sufficient response to the continual misuse of firearms.

You are the ones who lie, trying to claim that offering thoughts and prayers is a "sufficient response" as if that is the only thing people want to do; it is merely an initial empathetic gesture. 

 

 

Edited September 11, 2025 by User

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, West said:

AND YOU HAVE NO REALISTIC SOLUTIONS

Gun fatalities declined SUBSTANTIALLY during the 10 year assault weapons ban HERE which I've advocated be restored.

Now apologize for YOUR LIE.

10 minutes ago, West said:

just trying to deflect from the fact leftists are being radicalized to violence. Just like the Khmer Rouge or the folks who did the Genocide in Rwanda. 

And it was Trump WHO NORMALIZED POLITCAL VIOLENCE by PARDONING the J6 PERPS, lDIOT.

[SpankyMcFarland]

11 minutes ago, Greg said:

And what are you implying?

That speakers should be suddenly worried to voice an opinion?

If I were in their shoes I’d have been worried the first day I took to the podium. In truth I’d probably have stayed sitting and passed on the whole project. I think I just want to highlight the admirable risks politicians run, especially in the US. I don’t think we give them enough credit for that. They are brave people. 

Edited September 11, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[West]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Gun fatalities declined SUBSTANTIALLY during the 10 year assault weapons ban HERE which I've advocated be restored.

Now apologize for YOUR LIE.

And it was Trump WHO NORMALIZED POLITCAL VIOLENCE by PARDONING the J6 PERPS, lDIOT.

Victims of the lefts games. Their first choice was to smear and imprison as its less of a political risk than assassination. Only when they lost power do they resort to murder

[CouchPotato]

 

[Shady]

The left is the party of political violence almost exclusively.  Trump shot, Kirk killed, heath care CEO killed.  2 Israeli embassy workers killed.  DOGE worker severely beaten, Tesla dealerships and vehicles vandalized and burned.  And let’s not forget about 2020 when cities and businesses burned, cops beaten and killed.  Progressives are a scourge on society.  They are incompatible with western civilization.

 

Pierre better get extra security.  The way the left in Canada talk about him you’d think he was Hitler.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, User said:

People actually live all over in Canada... that is the point of comparing national population density. You always have to play these dumb games with the qualifiers. 

Canada has a much lower population density compared to America. That is just a fact. 

If you want to start quibbling over density in cites... which ones? New York has more than any city in Canada. Significantly more than your most dense city. 

Density in communities is what matters here because that’s where crimes happen. The criminals don’t evenly disperse across the arctic looking for random victims. 
 

If I am standing in a crowded elevator are you suggesting it’s not actually crowded because Canada’s vast arctic is uninhabited?
 

 If 1% of people are criminals and thousands more people live in my densely packed neighbourhood compared to your sparsely populated neighbourhood what difference does it make that Canada’s vast arctic is uninhabited giving the country a low NATIONAL population density? The relevant fact is that I am surrounded by more potential criminals than you

 

Yes NYC has high density and higher crime as a result, as do most large cities compared to smaller towns and suburbs. However most Americans don’t live in NYC. They live in suburbs and those suburbs have more sprawl and are less dense that the communities where Canadians live..That’s just a fact. 

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, Shady said:

Homicide rates don’t capture all violence, just fatal violence.  Regardless, homicide rates have more to do with culture.  And as I’ve already said, Canada per capita has more guns.  Anyone in Canada could walk into a school with a hunting rifle and kill several people before law enforcement showed up.  But it doesn’t happen.

When guns are involved, violence is far more likely to result in a fatality.

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, Greg said:

Guns cause homicides?

That’s your argument? 

My argument is that homicide is far more likely if a gun is involved. Any id!iot should understand that.

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

1 thing: mental health issues. 

So all the others had no mental health issues?

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, West said:

Victims of the lefts games. Their first choice was to smear and imprison as its less of a political risk than assassination. Only when they lost power do they resort to murder

INDICT and IMPRISON is the JOB of the DoJ, lDIOT. You need to stop believing the PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

[West]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

INDICT and IMPRISON is the JOB of the DoJ, lDIOT. You need to stop believing the PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Its not the job of the DOJ to POLITICALLY HARASS the opposition based on fabricated bullshit

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, West said:

Its not the job of the DOJ to POLITICALLY HARASS the opposition based on fabricated bullshit

See above about PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. You're not getting anywhere with your empty claim that US courts allow "fabricated bullshit" and it just makes you LOOK LIKE AN lDIOT.