Charlie Kirk shot!

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

So it's true that you ban Leftys?

It sounds like you're against a particular political type.  People made fun of Paul Pelosi being attacked and nothing came of it.

Not complaining, exactly.  I'm still here, posting solid gold every day 🙂

I don't know, I respect what you've done here but Anthony was the biggest arbiter of objectivity on here IMO

Anthony would ban you for thinking the wrong thing. Anthony was unpredictable and took no excuses, and his sympathies were clearly with the Left. You weren't a lot better, for that matter. And as I recall, it was mostly people on the right you banned too. 

[TreeBeard]

The fella who was killed today thought Pelosi’s attacker was a hero.  So I guess I can’t drum up a lot of sympathy for someone like that.  Still….  Don’t kill people.  I don’t think he should’ve been killed.  

But, if one is going to turn political (attempted) assassins into heroes, is it surprising when they become the victims of a system they themselves perpetuate?   
 

 

…right-wing commentator Charlie Kirk thinks a man who is set to be charged with attempted homicide should be allowed out on bail.

“Why has he not been bailed out?” Kirk said Monday on his podcast of the man who allegedly beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi‘s husband Paul with a hammer last Friday. “By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out, I bet his bail’s like thirty or forty thousand bucks.” With a smirk, he added: “Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.”

Early last Friday morning, Berkeley resident David DePape, 42, allegedly attacked Paul Pelosi, 82, at the San Francisco home he shares with with Speaker Pelosi. Unable to locate the latter, who was not on the property, DePape was heard to ask, “Where’s Nancy? Where’s Nancy?” Police officers said that as they arrived on the scene, they witnessed DePape beating Paul Pelosi with a hammer. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/charlie-kirk-bail-out-alleged-paul-pelosi-attacker-1234621493/

Edited September 10, 2025 by TreeBeard

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Is this too coincidental to be an accident?

If it was me, this questioner would be in jail right now and until it was obvious they had nothing to do with the shooting. 

Everything that Charlie talks about is controversial. If a topic wasn't controversial there wouldn't be much point talking about it.

 

I don't feel like this was a crime of passion, in that moment. I think it was planned more than a few days ago. Maybe even months. 

[Politics1990]

was not a fan of him he spread hate  and used an excuse of allowing debate to pretend it was okay ...HOWEVER violence is not the answer and  weather you are on the LEFT OR RIGHT you don't deserve to be killed for your views..  condolences to his wife and kids and family.

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Everything that Charlie talks about is controversial. If a topic wasn't controversial there wouldn't be much point talking about it.

 

I don't feel like this was a crime of passion, in that moment. I think it was planned more than a few days ago. Maybe even months. 

I would not be surprised if someone wanted a video of Kirk saying something about gun violence being acceptable seconds before he was shot. That is why this question should be investigated as an accomplice. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Isn’t this the 2nd Amendment remedies conservatives have talked about?  If you’re pro-fascist government, maybe don’t be. 
 

“I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

-Charlie Kirk

So what?

If a terrorist wants to kill someone badly enough they will do it. 

In this instance the terrorist used a gun, but if they didn't have access to a gun then they could have used a truck or a bomb, and far more people would have been injured. 

Are you aware that terrorists have used those things before? Don't you remember the van attack that became a gun issue? The Oklahoma City bombing?

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, Politics1990 said:

was not a fan of him he spread hate  and used an excuse of allowing debate to pretend it was okay ...HOWEVER violence is not the answer and  weather you are on the LEFT OR RIGHT you don't deserve to be killed for your views..  condolences to his wife and kids and family.

Why was it hate? Because you didnt agree with it? 

[Politics1990]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Why was it hate? Because you didnt agree with it? 

the man is dead  i aint gonna argue about it. i came to say what i had to say

[WestCanMan]

29 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re so deep in your fake news bubble you don’t know reality. 

Thanks collusion-boy. I mean vax-boy. Or is it "mostly peaceful protest boy"? Fauci boy? Mentally fit Biden boy? 

Dammit, Beave, I don't even know what to call you anymore. Tinfoil-hat boy? Sure, let's go with that. 

[gatomontes99]

9 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

the man is dead  i aint gonna argue about it. i came to say what i had to say

You came here to shit on him and then act like you are being normal. Tell us how he spread hate. 

[paxamericana]

20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't feel like this was a crime of passion, in that moment. I think it was planned more than a few days ago. Maybe even months. 

Yes I range estimated the shot to be less than 300m away. Charlie fell almost instantly as the gunshot was played. 

[WestCanMan]

34 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

The fella who was killed today thought Pelosi’s attacker was a hero.  So I guess I can’t drum up a lot of sympathy for someone like that.  Still….  Don’t kill people.  I don’t think he should’ve been killed.  

But, if one is going to turn political (attempted) assassins into heroes, is it surprising when they become the victims of a system they themselves perpetuate?   
 

 

…right-wing commentator Charlie Kirk thinks a man who is set to be charged with attempted homicide should be allowed out on bail.

“Why has he not been bailed out?” Kirk said Monday on his podcast of the man who allegedly beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi‘s husband Paul with a hammer last Friday. “By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out, I bet his bail’s like thirty or forty thousand bucks.” With a smirk, he added: “Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.”

Early last Friday morning, Berkeley resident David DePape, 42, allegedly attacked Paul Pelosi, 82, at the San Francisco home he shares with with Speaker Pelosi. Unable to locate the latter, who was not on the property, DePape was heard to ask, “Where’s Nancy? Where’s Nancy?” Police officers said that as they arrived on the scene, they witnessed DePape beating Paul Pelosi with a hammer. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/charlie-kirk-bail-out-alleged-paul-pelosi-attacker-1234621493/

That's your take on what he said? 😂

You honestly think that the word "hero" in that context means that Charlie was saying that DePape was a hero? 

Your reading comprehension is well below grade 4 level, or you're a lying f'ing weasel, buddy. 

FYI, the gist of what he's saying is: "Leftists revere people who let violent criminals out of jail (ie, the Dems and their "we don't throw people in jail for that stuff anymore" DA's), so if someone wants to be a hero among the leftists in San Fran right now, then they should just go bail that guy out, right? Why should that particular violent offender serve jailtime while criminals who attack less famous people get off Scot-free all the time? The Dems re-worked the system to keep guys like that on the street, so be a hero, and get that man out of jail." 

Do ya get it, Treebeard? 

Honest to God, the main reason that you don't like Charlie Kirk is because his arguments are way over your head. I'm not being mean, you're just really really unlucky when it comes to thinking and understanding. 

Edited September 10, 2025 by WestCanMan

[Nationalist]

43 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

That’s a lie. His skull was fractured by a deranged intruder he did not know. You’re so deep in your fake news bubble you don’t know reality. But I applaud you for trying this time instead of just posting empty insults 

Oh please...

 

[WestCanMan]

17 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I would not be surprised if someone wanted a video of Kirk saying something about gun violence being acceptable seconds before he was shot. That is why this question should be investigated as an accomplice. 

Terrific point.

[West]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You can't create a society where creating the perfect level of access to weapons doesn't "cause" someone's death.

If Nancy Pelosi could somehow 100% ban people from having guns, knives, bats, clubs, rocks and anything else that they could use as a weapon, then she would have created a society where the biggest people would know that everyone smaller than them was defenceless, and there would be no deterrent from them going into people's homes at night and then doing whatever they wanted. 

When a 240-lb dude waltzed into the Pelosi's home at night, and the Pelosis were just 100% at the criminal's mercy, Nancy would be a victim of the society that she chose. 

Honestly, how many more home invasions would there be if criminals knew that there were zero guns in America?

One of the scariest things that you can right now do is get caught breaking into an American's house. 

 

Just remember that the entire foundation of a complex society is a safe home. If you lived every minute of your life knowing that at any moment someone bigger than you could just waltz into your home and take what they wanted or even kill you, why would you bother to get educated? Could you leave your family behind and go to work? No, you would basically live at home like Gronk, just occasionally running out to kill something to bring home and throw on the fire. 

Yeah but who would trust Nancy Pelosi or the sickos on CNN to disarm you when they are actively calling for violence over WORDS. 

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

the man is dead  i aint gonna argue about it. i came to say what i had to say

Bullshit.

You slandered him out of one side of your mouth and then tried to claim the moral high ground with the other. 

How about if you take your fake sentiments and your snotty jibes and f-off, weasel. 

[gatomontes99]

Take TMZ off the air. Shut them down!

 

[gatomontes99]

 

 

[Shady]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I mean sure, you can make a good argument about everything you said.  Except this is both a terrorist act and an act of gun violence.  The cost of the 2nd amendment is very high though.  All for the fear of the rise of a tyrannical government and the ability to uprise against it, a situation that hasn't actually happened in the history of the US.

Anyways, Americans are free to live in whatever society they choose.  I'm just saying Kirk is a victim of it.   If a society is armed to the teeth, sometimes some angry or crazy people are going to start shooting.

Is there a way we can tell if a forum member is banned, on their profile or something?  Don't see anything on Boges's profile to indicate.

Would you have preferred he was stabbed to death instead like the Ukrainian refugee?  Suggesting that he wouldn’t have been killed but for the second amendment is ridiculous.

Boges’ is a sh!t stain but I wouldn’t want him banned.  I just hope he realizes that “divisive” is subjective, and that could be used to justify killing anyone, even in Canada, like Mr. Trudeau for example.  

[User]

42 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

The fella who was killed today thought Pelosi’s attacker was a hero.

This is a lie. An outright lie. Nothing he said was calling the man a hero. 

43 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

So I guess I can’t drum up a lot of sympathy for someone like that.  

Well, someone like that is a figment of your own depraved lies. 

 

[User]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Isn’t this the 2nd Amendment remedies conservatives have talked about?  If you’re pro-fascist government, maybe don’t be. 

WTF is your problem? 

You people can't ever have a decent, honest shred of dignity in your body. 

 

[TreeBeard]

Just now, User said:

This is a lie. An outright lie. Nothing he said was calling the man a hero. 

 

“By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out…”

-Kirk

 

Why would he call someone a hero and a patriot for bailing out the would-be assassin if he didn’t like what the guy did?  

[Politics1990]

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Bullshit.

You slandered him out of one side of your mouth and then tried to claim the moral high ground with the other. 

How about if you take your fake sentiments and your snotty jibes and f-off, weasel. 

oh calm down tough guy you all yap  lol

[User]

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

“By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out…”

-Kirk

 

Why would he call someone a hero and a patriot for bailing out the would-be assassin if he didn’t like what the guy did?  

Again, nowhere did he call the man who attacked Pelosi's husband a hero. 

You are a disgusting, lying scumbag. 

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, User said:

WTF is your problem? 

I have no problems.  Didn’t know who the guy was until he was shot. 
 

I guess I have about as much sympathy for that fella as you do for a handful of North Korean civilians murdered by the Navy Seals.  No big deal.  We just have different perspectives on who should get our sympathies. 

2 minutes ago, User said:

Again, nowhere did he call the man who attacked Pelosi's husband a hero. 

You are a disgusting, lying scumbag. 

If one is going to cheerlead a hammer attack on a politician’s geriatric husband, is it surprising when they get caught up in the exact thing they’re fomenting?   I don’t find it surprising.