Why should we hate Nazis?

[User]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

When it was hatched as an idea it probably made very good sense. But you know what they say about mice, men and the best laid plans.

I don't know, maybe if they'd left Ivan Rand out of it things would have worked out better.

We are all well aware of your hatred for the mere existence of Israel and your two-faced, double-talking to support Hamas. 

 

[eyeball]

Just now, User said:

We are all well aware of your hatred for the mere existence of Israel and your two-faced, double-talking to support Hamas.

I was just lying.

[herbie]

No, no, if you don't 100% support dropping bombs on day cares and hospitals and shooting starving people lining up for food you MUST be a supporter of Hamas.

For us or agin us.
My country right or wrong (in this case someone elses country)
Black or white.

[User]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

No, no, if you don't 100% support dropping bombs on day cares and hospitals and shooting starving people lining up for food you MUST be a supporter of Hamas.

For us or agin us.
My country right or wrong (in this case someone elses country)
Black or white.

Its funny how you pretend to care about presenting issues as black and white as you present the most dishonest extreme position to argue against. 

 

[I am Groot]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I would argue that they are a kind of nationalist. They believe that the power of a nation should be supreme and should follow their ideology precisely. They believe in things that at first glance seem unnational but in reality they have absolute faith in the state provided it's the state that they create.

Yeah, they're authoritarian but they don't even LIKE the countries they're in. Nor do they like the people. That's not like Nazis at all. Nazis think they're superior. Leftists think we're all terrible, awful people, and genuflect to every minority they see. Definitely not Nazi-like there. They adore foreign cultures, including the Islamic ones that are utterly opposed to their own values, but don't respect our own.

Edited August 11, 2025 by I am Groot

[Moonbox]

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Well, the Left is authoritarian and doesn't tolerate dissent. It definitely isn't nationalist, of course. 

I would counter that the Nazi version of "doesn't tolerate dissent" looked a lot different than what you imagine the monolithic and nefarious "Left" is doing to you today. 

This was easily the dumbest OP you've ever written.  

[I am Groot]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Not at all. Only the Ashkenazi were turfed from nation to nation. It was they who developed the Yidish bastardization of Hebrew. It was they who Hitler and Stalin hated.

Unfortunately...the Ashkenazi have been a pain for nation after nation. They even fight with the other Jewish sects.

Uh huh. They were too successful and too standoffish in a world that was extremely suspicious of outsiders. People were jealous, and resentful, and that was about it. The Jews didn't do anything else like, say, start grooming gangs to rape little girls - as long as they weren't Jews, right? They didn't brag about how they were going to take over and force everyone to obey Jewish laws. They didn't blow things up or murder people for offending their religion. 

And today, all they do is marry, have kids, carefully oversee their kids educations, and pay taxes. They seem to be very good citizens. I can do without the black hat squad, mind you. Those are another breed. 

3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I would counter that the Nazi version of "doesn't tolerate dissent" looked a lot different than what you imagine the monolithic and nefarious "Left" is doing to you today. 

This was easily the dumbest OP you've ever written.  

But I'm not actually comparing the Left to Nazis. I'm contrasting them. The real comparison is Islam to Nazism. And the fact the Left is infatuated with Islam and hand-waves away all the otherwise uncomfortable things that Muslims generally believe in, like killing gays, beating women who disobey their men, forcing them to cover their hair and often faces, banning abortion, etc. In other words, all the stuff the Left hates Nazis for they ignore in Muslims.

[CdnFox]

38 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I was just lying.

About pretending to disapprove of hamas?  we know that. You're pretty clear. 

[Nationalist]

36 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Uh huh. They were too successful and too standoffish in a world that was extremely suspicious of outsiders. People were jealous, and resentful, and that was about it. The Jews didn't do anything else like, say, start grooming gangs to rape little girls - as long as they weren't Jews, right? They didn't brag about how they were going to take over and force everyone to obey Jewish laws. They didn't blow things up or murder people for offending their religion. 

And today, all they do is marry, have kids, carefully oversee their kids educations, and pay taxes. They seem to be very good citizens. I can do without the black hat squad, mind you. Those are another breed. 

Uh huh...

https://www.globalr2p.org/publications/atrocities-present-past-and-future-escalating-crimes-and-consequences-in-israel-and-occupied-palestine/

36 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

But I'm not actually comparing the Left to Nazis. I'm contrasting them. The real comparison is Islam to Nazism. And the fact the Left is infatuated with Islam and hand-waves away all the otherwise uncomfortable things that Muslims generally believe in, like killing gays, beating women who disobey their men, forcing them to cover their hair and often faces, banning abortion, etc. In other words, all the stuff the Left hates Nazis for they ignore in Muslims.

But this we agree on.

Edited August 11, 2025 by Nationalist

[Moonlight Graham]

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

There is more to being a Nazi than hating Jews, of course.

Nazis are authoritarian, super nationalists, and don't tolerate dissent.

Well, the Left is authoritarian and doesn't tolerate dissent. It definitely isn't nationalist, of course. 

But Muslims are authoritarian, don't tolerate dissent, and are super, super nationalists - not for their geographic nation, but for what we might call their religious nation. 

And the Left adores them for it as much as it hates Nazis for the same traits!

So what is a common trait of Nazis that isn't also a common trait of Islam?

Because you saw it on some far right website.

The far-right are hyper-nationalist, which means they're hyper self-preserving, to the point that they think their nation (race) is superior to all others and therefore they seek to dominate, conquer, and destroy/replace other nations/races they see as inferior, like the Nazis did.

The far-left are the exact opposite.  Instead of feeling their nation and race are superior they actually feel they're inferior to all others, and feel guilt and shame for who they are.  This is how leftist white people feel about their race and how leftist Americans and Canadians feel about their own country.   They feel guilt and shame for being "strong", because some members of any group who have power will inevitably abuse that power on the weak at some point.  Therefore the far-left see themselves as inherently evil and see no value in themselves and no reason to preserve their nation/race, and in fact sometimes take steps to see its extinction.

Both of these mindsets are extremely destructive and anti-social.  A healthy middle-ground mindset would be to value your own nation/race/culture, be proud of who you are and where you came from, and want to see it preserved because it has value, but not see it as inherently superior to other nations/races/cultures.

This is the most core element of nature and life itself.  Most every animal including humans seek a mate and yearn to have offspring because we value ourselves and those we love and want to pass on our genes and pass on our traditions and what we have learned.  Value for ourselves and love for another results in creation itself.

The left has compassionate for the weak, which is a good thing.   But the last 60 years we've seen the left try to convince us that white people are bad (racist warmongers), men suck, our country is evil, our forebearers were evil, while de-valuing marriage (rampant divorce rates and single parent homes), de-valuing motherhood/parenthood and children (women in the workforce, abortions, childcare instead of parenting).  Nazis are obviously extremely destructive but is the far-left any better?

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

About pretending to disapprove of hamas?  we know that. You're pretty clear. 

Oh...I meant I wasn't lying.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Oh...I meant I wasn't lying.

We all know that's a lie  LOLOLOL

Whenever you get busted for your support of Hamas and they're killing of civilians this is how you act  You seem to think that you act amusing will be distracted. Would you find you amusing, in a cat chasing the laser pointer kind of way. But everybody still knows that you support the slaughter of Jewish people including women and children due to your hatred and bigotry and support for Hamas

And that ain't no lie   

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But everybody still knows that you support the slaughter of Jewish people including women and children due to your hatred and bigotry and support for Hamas

Prove it. Put up a poll and let's see what the results say.

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Uh huh...

https://www.globalr2p.org/publications/atrocities-present-past-and-future-escalating-crimes-and-consequences-in-israel-and-occupied-palestine/

You'll pardon me if I'm not much interested in the kinds of prejudiced recitations we've seen from lefty groups over the last year and a half. They ignore context, ignore the dubious honesty of those telling them about 'atrocities' and ignore other nations that are worse but which don't tweak their far left sensibilities as badly as Jews do.

I mean, if you had to be sent to that region where would you rather live than Israel? Iraq, perhaps? Syria? Jordan? Egypt? 

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Prove it. Put up a poll and let's see what the results say.

Why? You're not worth that kind of time as a rule, and what would proving what everyone knows about you do? You'll just deny the poll was ever done 7 minutes later.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

You'll pardon me if I'm not much interested in the kinds of prejudiced recitations we've seen from lefty groups over the last year and a half. They ignore context, ignore the dubious honesty of those telling them about 'atrocities' and ignore other nations that are worse but which don't tweak their far left sensibilities as badly as Jews do.

I mean, if you had to be sent to that region where would you rather live than Israel? Iraq, perhaps? Syria? Jordan? Egypt? 

Turkey.

[eyeball]

55 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

They ignore context, ignore the dubious honesty of those telling them about 'atrocities' and ignore other nations that are worse but which don't tweak their far left sensibilities as badly as Jews do.

What tweaks hardest is the fact Israel should know better. And that goes double for Israel's patrons in the free democratic West.

What is there to compel other nations to change if this is the best example that's on tap - you're suggesting worse nations should follow it? That's nuts.

[eyeball]

40 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why? You're not worth that kind of time as a rule, and what would proving what everyone knows about you do? You'll just deny the poll was ever done 7 minutes later.

So you're just a chicken-shit coward with no conviction.

Well colour me surprised.

Who didn't see that coming?

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So you're just a chicken-shit coward with no conviction.

Talking to your mirror again?  

If you want a poll up put one up yourself.  Put up a simple pollL: Yes or no have you ever heard Eyeball speak in support of the terrorists who launched the oct 7 attack. 

You know what they'll say.  That's why you didn't do it yourself.  You're just trying to get me to waste my time. 

What, are you some sort of chicken-shit coward?    lolol   I don't dance to YOUR tune little man  

[User]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

So you're just a chicken-shit coward with no conviction.

Says the guy who will be so purposefully vague to obscure your outright support for Hamas and the destruction of Israel... while pretending that isn't what you support. 

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

Says the guy who will be so purposefully vague to obscure your outright support for Hamas and the destruction of Israel... while pretending that isn't what you support.

Fùck off....says where, what and when? Please be purposefully specific. Stop pretending that simply accusing people of things makes it true.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Fùck off....says where, what and when? Please be purposefully specific. Stop pretending that simply accusing people of things makes it true.

EVERY BODY KNOWS THIS AND HAS SEEN YOU SAY IT 1000 TIMES!!!  

Which is why you were too chicken shit to put up a poll   

Btw, so far with me and @User the poll is 2 to 0  LOLOL

[I am Groot]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

What tweaks hardest is the fact Israel should know better.

The White Man's Burden. We're more civilized and intelligent than those savages so we should act better. They, being uncivilized savages, have to be excused because they don't know any better.

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

What is there to compel other nations to change if this is the best example that's on tap - you're suggesting worse nations should follow it? That's nuts.

How do you want them to change? Contrary to what the Left seems to believe, Israel has gone to great lengths to minimize civilian casualties, more than any other army has in history. Hell, I was just on YouTube and came across the battle of Manila, where American artillery killed thousands of Filipinos as they fought house to house against the Japanese. Shit happens in war, and it happens doubly in urban war.

[I am Groot]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Turkey.

LOL. Turkey as a resident is not Turkey as a tourist. There's no freedom there anymore. There's no free press. And the first time you open your mouth to complain about anything the government is doing, you'll get to see the inside of a Turkish prison. Not to mention rising Islamism, the slaughter of the Kurds, and a corruption level that lets whole streets collapse during earthquakes because nobody bothers to meet building codes. 

[User]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Fùck off....says where, what and when? Please be purposefully specific. Stop pretending that simply accusing people of things makes it true.

Nah, you know who you are and what you are doing, you like to play this game of strategic ambiguity because you know just outright admitting what you support is bad.