Libs Housing Plan Pretty Good

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Maybe what we need is a joint task force made up of Liberals and Conservatives to come up with a plan that everyone can agree on.

Cooperation? Wow, that's just so woke.

[taxme]

22 hours ago, herbie said:

A delve into the Liberals housing plan, watch before you criticize. Certainly more extensive than simply handin out a few tax breaks for developers and buyers, and keep in mind it's for affordable ('starter' homes) not for building a 3000 sq ft fully finished monster home in Vancouver for everyone.
I wholed-heartedly agree the NDP missed the boat on this one and will deliver more and faster housing than Conservative fans.

 

Globalist Corney stole the housing plan from the conservatives just like they now did with abolishing the carbon tax after the conservatives had already said that they were going to abolish the carbon tax. If the WEF globalist liberals do get elected the next government of Canada, I guess that Corney is going to try and pretend that he is going to make Canada great again, eh? Well, if raising taxes, giving us more government, and taking away more freedom is a great plan for Canada, I guess that it is safe to say, good luck Canada. We will all be praying for Trump to come help save Canada. I know that i will. 

It is plain to see that the bought and paid for Canadian leftist liberal media is all in for Corney because they do a lot more talking about and with him. The fix is in. It would appear as though the WEF suck will win the next election in Canada. 

All i can do now is to hope for the best and that the conservatives will win the next election. Gawd help Canada if they do not. 

[ironstone]

4 hours ago, PIK said:

And let me guess, brookfield will be the builder.

You might be correct about that lol

 

[herbie]

Oh my heart just bleeds for the poor landlords. They need to be guaranteed a profitable investment tool they don't have to live in. Concern for those who can't own their own home is just so woke!

[Army Guy]

7 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

So if I can afford to build a million dollar home, I should get tax breaks, rather than maybe reducing my budget to $920,000?

Average home here in NB is 500,000 which would mean a 40,000 reduction....in your pocket, 40K is more than any government has given out....but some how your decided to look a gift horse in the mouth.... 

Edited April 4 by Army Guy

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

(Only looking at the GST cut):

 

Carney is cutting the GST on new homes for 1st time buyers.  PP’s cut will apply to speculators and investors who already own large numbers of units.  
 

Carney’s GST cut won’t have much effect as most 1st time homebuyers don’t buy new.  PP’s will have the effect of enriching rich people even more, as well as not having much effect for those 1st time homebuyers.

 

For people like me, PP’s tax cut will let me get that home with a wine cellar, rather than having to forgo it for something cheaper. 
 

 

Bullshit PP tax cut will be for "every" person in Canada building a new home....be it from 1 dollar to 1.2 whatever they can afford. and giving everyone a tax break of up to 65 K...rebate

Under carney you only get the tax break "Only" new first time home buyers will get the tax break....

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Bullshit PP tax cut will be for "every" person in Canada building a new home....be it from 1 dollar to 1.2 whatever they can afford. and giving everyone a tax break of up to 65 K...rebate

Under carney you only get the tax break "Only" new first time home buyers will get the tax break....

Why should someone who owns 12 homes and makes money from them get a tax break?  

Edited April 4 by TreeBeard

[suds]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

It sounds good.   But the subject is complex.  The Conservatives need to produce a detailed plan.  We need 5 million homes ASAP.  The Liberal plan only plans for near 500,000 per year.  That is not good enough and it is unlikely they will even get near that number.  

Maybe what we need is a joint task force made up of Liberals and Conservatives to come up with a plan that everyone can agree on.

The 500,000 per year building starts also includes building starts by the private sector, and only hope to achieve this 500,000 target in 10 years. Best to start out small and see how it works. If successful it can always be expanded. The idea of building these pre-fab and modular homes on publicly owned land is interesting. They also mention something about 'leasing' which could also potentially knock prices down for first time home buyers even further.

[blackbird]

51 minutes ago, suds said:

The 500,000 per year building starts also includes building starts by the private sector, and only hope to achieve this 500,000 target in 10 years. Best to start out small and see how it works. If successful it can always be expanded. The idea of building these pre-fab and modular homes on publicly owned land is interesting. They also mention something about 'leasing' which could also potentially knock prices down for first time home buyers even further.

I'm not sure about the either the Liberal or Conservative plan.  I don't have much faith in government being involved in the land or building.  Government and bureaucracy has often been very costly and inefficient.  We'll see what develops.

[Army Guy]

21 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Why should someone who owns 12 homes and makes money from them get a tax break?  

Your assuming all new builds in this country are done by people who already own 12 homes....your talking out of that little brown speaker in your rear....thousands of Canadians are building homes for various reasons, or getting a home they finally want....but somehow according to you they don't deserve that , becasue they already own 12 homes....when the fact the majority of Canadians don't in fact they are lucky enough to own or still owe on the one home they have...

This is really a liberal response you don't care if it is good or bad, all your concerned with is it comes from PP....because you hate to see Canadians get ahead, This is perhaps the largest tax break in our history, and your complaining about it...Funney you never said anything about the policies that Carney stole for PP, do you like them...

 

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Your assuming all new builds in this country are done by people who already own 12 homes

I didn’t say anything about “all of them already own 12 homes”.  But those people will benefit from PP’s plan. 

 

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

This is really a liberal response you don't care if it is good or bad, all your concerned with is it comes from PP

So you think people who own several homes should get a GST break on another one?

[Army Guy]

16 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I didn’t say anything about “all of them already own 12 homes”.  But those people will benefit from PP’s plan. 

 

So you think people who own several homes should get a GST break on another one?

Yes i sure that is going to happen, what is your point here, that the plan is no good because a few people will take advantage of the fact....so we should cancel all of it....Your man Carney did not seem to care about loopholes in tax laws that very few Canadians takes advantage off, in fact he said that is how the world works....but thats different he is a liberal...

Why not, I'm sure it will benefit far more people trying to build a new home, than people who already own several homes...why does that bug you so much...

[CouchPotato]

Affordable housing from the same people who brought you ArriveScam.

Edited Saturday at 07:08 PM by CouchPotato

[herbie]

I hate to sound like a commie like Brian Mulroney but the GST should not be charged on any home or shelter, food, clothing or medical.

But then again if you actually think $1,000,000 instead of $1,050,000 is going to either make people rush out and build and buy new homes you're welcome to keep dreaming.

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

But then again if you actually think $1,000,000 instead of $1,050,000 is going to either make people rush out and build and buy new homes you're welcome to keep dreaming.

The folks who buy and sell houses frequently are going to profit significantly from the Conservative tax break plan.  
 

At least the Libs are targeting 1st time home buyers.  Although the GST break will have negligible effect.  

[betsy]

On 4/2/2025 at 7:09 PM, herbie said:

A delve into the Liberals housing plan, watch before you criticize. Certainly more extensive than simply handin out a few tax breaks for developers and buyers, and keep in mind it's for affordable ('starter' homes) not for building a 3000 sq ft fully finished monster home in Vancouver for everyone.
I wholed-heartedly agree the NDP missed the boat on this one and will deliver more and faster housing than Conservative fans.

 

 

 

Keyword:   LOOKS

Looks, can be deceiving.   Like his housing plan.

In reality, it's not good.

 

Carney’s housing platform misses the mark, critics say

A taxpayers group is raising the alarm about Liberal Leader Mark Carney’s housing plan.

The Montreal Economic Institute’s senior policy analyst Gabriel Giguère said that Carney’s housing strategy misses the mark, failing to learn from the mistakes of the Trudeau government.

“Creating a new federal housing developer misses the point of how we got into this crisis,” said Giguère.

“The private sector has been ready and willing to build the supply we need without taxpayer dollars, but Canadian cities across the country bury developers in so much red tape that housing projects become unfeasible.”

Giguère encouraged the government to focus on eliminating tax and regulatory barriers to housing development instead of another government-led approach.
“Cutting development taxes, speeding up approvals, and getting out of the way would do far more to improve affordability than launching yet another expensive government program,” said Giguère.

Federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation Franco Terrazzano reiterated a similar message, urging the government to get out of the way of builders.

“If more government was the solution to the housing crisis, then every Canadian would have two homes by now,” said Terrazzano.

 

https://www.junonews.com/p/carneys-housing-platform-misses-the

 

 

Lol - why do i get the feeling that I'm getting scammed by Carney? 🤣

Edited Saturday at 10:38 PM by betsy

[herbie]

Go ahead, dig into it. Find every fault in it.
Then try to tell us how someone else's housing plan is better.

Ya look at what's on the table, and your supposed to pick the best one.

[Army Guy]

6 hours ago, herbie said:

I hate to sound like a commie like Brian Mulroney but the GST should not be charged on any home or shelter, food, clothing or medical.

But then again if you actually think $1,000,000 instead of $1,050,000 is going to either make people rush out and build and buy new homes you're welcome to keep dreaming.

I agree , thats the way it used to be , but then we have to pay for all these social programs...

Don't know about you, but 50,000 in my pocket goes a long way....i can find much better ways to spend it than giving it to the government...but hey if it builds one more house in Canada it is a good plan , that's one more than we have today....and families thinking about building that home they have been saving for 50,000 k is something that might make a difference...

Like i said before you don't like it because it is from the conservatives....who knows maybe carney will copy it and then the left can claim it as their own...

[herbie]

For 50,000 in my pocket I could buy the house next door. Wouldn't help worth shit to buy the house I grew up in in Burnaby. Wouldn't buy the lumber to build a new one there from scratch either.

Basic housing is what needs to return. Usable, fuctional roof over your head, fix it up yourswelf if you want it fancier starter homes. Those have all gone, all been upgraded over the years.
There are no more unfinished basements, unseeded lawns, no marble countertops and built in dishwasher & appliances all included, new ones without these haven't been built for decades and all the preoccupied ones come with decades of upgrades.
FFS I've done that myself and so have almost all my neighbours but half the market ignorant fools on the forum don't even think you CAN add value to your home, let alone everyone has or does.
The powers of the ancient Pharoahs make property values increase.[/s]