WestCanMan Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, Legato said: Trying to invoke the Hackney Carriage principle is also a big failure.. What is that? I've never heard of it... Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 1 hour ago, blackbird said: We have had carbon taxes for years and it has not stopped or slowed down climate change or forest fires. That's not the intent of carbon taxes. The point of the tax is to change our behaviour, the way taxes that reduce for example our use of tobacco will stop or slow heart or lung disease. The only way to prevent worsening AGW is to reduce our use of fossil fuels. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: PP doesn't make climate change a major platform probably because it is a phony issue. He doesn't make climate change an issue because the climate changes all the time. The real issue is AGW. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Nobody can control the climate. However, he knows a lot of voters are worried about it and many still believe man can control the climate. And he needs these worried voters support to win. That means he intends to virtue signal. In his case that will mean subsidizing fossil fuel companies to 'invest' in unproven, ineffective, hellishly expensive methods to make it appear as if he is controlling the climate. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: So PP plans to stop the phony carbon tax and not put carbon taxes on industry. This will raise the standard of living for Canadians which makes a lot of sense. Of course he's not going to tax industry he's going to subsidize it and pass these costs on to you the taxpayer. And you can bet the oil companies will pass their costs onto you as well. I suppose it could be argued that his 'plan' might also incentivize people to change their behaviour and look for cheaper alternatives but at a lot more expense and with no rebates for lower income people who need the help and subsidies for wealthy people who don't. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: He will speed up the approval process for things like small nuclear reactors so instead of taking 15 years to approve a project, it should be approved in a few years. Maybe, Carney says the same thing and I would expect there'll be lots of expensive subsidies for nuclear power too. It'll still take several years largely I think because there will be resistance to relaxing the environmental and safety regulations that will unleash the nuclear industry. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Legato Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: What is that? I've never heard of it... For hire (I will vote for anyone who thinks like I do). Or think of the Jagmeet Singhing group, they Hackneyed themselves to the Liberals for dubious favours. Quote
PIK Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 Now since the libs have stolen PPs policies. And then PP wins a minority, wouldnt it look stupid for the libs to vote against those same policies? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
WestCanMan Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 1 minute ago, PIK said: Now since the libs have stolen PPs policies. And then PP wins a minority, wouldnt it look stupid for the libs to vote against those same policies? If CBC says "It looks brilliant!", what do you think will the leftist cultists here will say? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Why? In a word, Trump. Trump is also a symbol of and for a hard right wing brand that's reached its shelf life. People have had their fill of its reaction to the list of fill-in-your-grievances-here. Poilievre simply has too many people within his base of supporters who cleave this way. Between that and the Orange Right-wing Beacon burning so brightly to the south of us moderate Canadians are warier. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 Will Carney cancel the gas and oil cap on industry to allow Canada to compete with the rest of of world. Rob Breakenridge: Carney's chance to scrap job-destroying emissions cap Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 17 minutes ago, blackbird said: Will Carney cancel the gas and oil cap on industry to allow Canada to compete with the rest of of world. Rob Breakenridge: Carney's chance to scrap job-destroying emissions cap You want more pollution? Quote
ironstone Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: You want more pollution? Carney has a brilliant plan. He's going to make the big polluters pay, and he'll start with our own steel and aluminum plants. Polluters must pay. Now he was asked if this just would trickle down to Canadian consumers "No,” replied Carney. “Because what the big companies are producing by and large are not products that we are consuming. There’s some element of that but … you know, a steel company, how much steel are you using these days, Todd? Not as much — not as much we used to.” Surely the big companies would never dare to pass on the extra cost down the line to us, would they? https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/jamie-sarkonak-carneys-carbon-plan-would-punish-canada-just-like-trumps-tariffs/ar-AA1yUoai Trump puts tariffs on us...and Carney too.😒 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
TreeBeard Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 Just now, ironstone said: Surely the big companies would never dare to pass on the extra cost down the line to us, would they? Who pays for it if the polluters aren’t made to pay now? You think the costs just magically disappear into the wind? Quote
Army Guy Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Who pays for it if the polluters aren’t made to pay now? You think the costs just magically disappear into the wind? So your saying climate change can only be solved by taxing the people, not by any other source,or idea.......And when did the major polluters ever pay for anything, they don't they pass that on to the consumer...like every company in north America...they pass it on to the "consumer"....they don't pay for anything that gets added by the government....ZERO , prove it otherwise. carney has been asked to , and he can't explain it...and he is the banker... DO i think those costs are going to magically disappear....yes i do, trump has wiped out his climate initiatives which will make US goods much more competitive with Canada's...consumers will buy the cheapest goods, it is what they do....why else do we buy so much cheap chinese sh1t...And if you think Canada is going to solve this climate crises you don't have a full deck of cards...This buy Canadians is not going to last forever, once canadians feel the pain from tariffs they will buy the cheapest sh1t...and it won't be Canadian because ours will have all these taxes attached to it...we can't even trade with no tariffs amongst ourselves... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: You want more pollution? The cap doesn't create more pollution. How much oil we produce has absolutely nothing to do with how much oil is consumed. The amount of oil the world is going to burn is exactly the same whether we sell it to them or the Russians do or Saudi Arabia does So the question is are we going to be the ones doing the selling or someone else, it has absolutely nothing to do with pollution. This is really simple. When the world stops using oil will stop producing oil. Not the other way around. And now the Americans have us under our thumb just because people like you can't understand that simple concept 1 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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