Liberal Party Takes Lead in Polls

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

I put that duh-head on ignore.  

According to whom?

 

338Canada still has a 98% chance of a Lib victory, as of today’s polling. 
 

Ya I've heard that before...

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ummm... she never said any of that. Find me the quote where she says he's in synch with trump's policies,

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/08/exclusive-canadian-premier-danielle-smith-trudeau-blew-tariff-negotiations-first-mar-a-lago-meeting/

"So I would hope that we could put things on pause is what I’ve told administration officials. Let’s just put things on pause so we can get through an election.”

"the perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think…the new direction in America,” she added.

Less than 1 minute to find it. The link to the podcast is there too.

But one thing I learned in University a lifetime ago is that any fool can cite and quote a lot of sources to make themselves look smart.

Data isn't knowledge, knowledge isn't wisdom. Try thinking for yourself. It's very refreshing.

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'd settle for an elected one with a minority - especially if it makes your head explode.

whatever party is elected it needs to be a majority,there are to many things that need to be fixed and a minority is not the rout to go right now...

[TreeBeard]

57 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya I've heard that before...

Where?

[Army Guy]

33 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/08/exclusive-canadian-premier-danielle-smith-trudeau-blew-tariff-negotiations-first-mar-a-lago-meeting/

"So I would hope that we could put things on pause is what I’ve told administration officials. Let’s just put things on pause so we can get through an election.”

"the perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think…the new direction in America,” she added.

Less than 1 minute to find it. The link to the podcast is there too.

But one thing I learned in University a lifetime ago is that any fool can cite and quote a lot of sources to make themselves look smart.

Data isn't knowledge, knowledge isn't wisdom. Try thinking for yourself. It's very refreshing.

This coming from a guy who has already spent the last 9 years under liberal rule and has learned nothing from it....It is the same party, same MP's what are you expecting to change....It seems you have forgotten to think for yourself....

[eyeball]

35 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

whatever party is elected it needs to be a majority,there are to many things that need to be fixed and a minority is not the rout to go right now...

I entirely disagree. There has never been a more important time for cooperation -  going back 50 years now actually.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/08/exclusive-canadian-premier-danielle-smith-trudeau-blew-tariff-negotiations-first-mar-a-lago-meeting/

"So I would hope that we could put things on pause is what I’ve told administration officials. Let’s just put things on pause so we can get through an election.”

"the perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think…the new direction in America,” she added.

Less than 1 minute to find it. The link to the podcast is there too.

But one thing I learned in University a lifetime ago is that any fool can cite and quote a lot of sources to make themselves look smart.

Data isn't knowledge, knowledge isn't wisdom. Try thinking for yourself. It's very refreshing.

Kid, you just proved you lied. 

She does not say he's in synch with Trump's policies. It's never said at all. 

She correctly says he's in synch with the new direction america is taking. They are now taking an isolationist trade and military position and poilievre's plans are totally appropriate to deal with that. He wants to see canada less dependent on the states, he wants to grow the military, he wants us to do more business with ourselves and expand our trade partners. 

That is 100 percent different with being in synch with his policies. 

If you didn't have dishonesty you'd have no honesty. But thanks for taking the time to prove you lied to everyone instead of me doing it. 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Where?

Heard talk like that during the US election.

[TreeBeard]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Heard talk like that during the US election.

This is Canada. 

[Moonbox]

5 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I put that duh-head on ignore.  

I would too, if not for the fact that he posts 40+ times a day and is at all times derailing at least a half a dozen threads with his belligerent stupidity.  🙃

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I would too, if not for the fact that he posts 40+ times a day and is at all times derailing at least a half a dozen threads with his belligerent stupidity.  🙃

Sure kid  

That and the fact i live rent free in your head and you're desperately hoping for a day when you DON"T look stupid arguing  with me  

But for now you and tree beard seem content to make yourselves look stupid by having a discussion about someone you claim to be ignoring or wish you could   LOLOLOL!!! 

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

This is Canada. 

Ya don't say.

[Barquentine]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Kid, you just proved you lied. 

She does not say he's in synch with Trump's policies. It's never said at all. 

Well I expected this. You're not man enough to admit you're wrong. "the new direction in America"= what Trump wants. So you try to weasel around it, and respond with lies and insults. You couldn't be Trumpier if you spray painted yourself orange.

And for lack of imagination you called me kid. Ironic, because based on your debating skills, I'm about 60 years older than you.

Another example of why you're not taken seriously.

 

[Boges]

Carney gets to own the drop in gas prices. Something PP made the cornerstone of his agenda. 

It's it ironic, dontcha think? 

[Gaétan]

The Liberals' advance and the regression of the other parties are not caused by Mark Carney's performance but by the cia's bribes.

[Boges]

PP says that the big problem with unaffordable housing is that women can't buy a home before their "biological clock" runs out. 

Yuck. They would have been better bringing Andrew Scheer back. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Well I expected this.

 

Of course you did. You said something that was untrue, you got called on it, then you posted proof that what you said was untrue. There should be zero surprise at all that people would point that out as well.

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You're not man enough to admit you're wrong.

LOL so you said something false, you've provided proof it was false, and now you want it to be MY fault?

Kid, she never ever said PP aligns with Trump's policies. She said is policies align with the new reality we face from the states. 

Those are radically different things but you attempted to twist what she said to mean that somehow PP's policies are the same as trumps. Which is entirely a lie, as you well know. 

And like any child when you get your hand slapped for bad behavior you cry. Pathetic. 

Next time don't lie, and if you do don't double down on it.  It's that simple

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, Boges said:

PP says that the big problem with unaffordable housing is that women can't buy a home before their "biological clock" runs out. 

Yuck. They would have been better bringing Andrew Scheer back. 

Does it offend you because it's true?

10 years of liberal mismanagement means that nobody can buy a home before they're too old to have kids, and they don't want to have kids before they have a stable home. So our birth rate has fallen to 1.3 births per female. 

But in your mind the BIG problem is PP dared to say it out loud?  Well... that's left wingers for you. You're probably mad the libs haven't brought in forced abortion. 

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Does it offend you because it's true?

10 years of liberal mismanagement means that nobody can buy a home before they're too old to have kids, and they don't want to have kids before they have a stable home. So our birth rate has fallen to 1.3 births per female. 

But in your mind the BIG problem is PP dared to say it out loud?  Well... that's left wingers for you. You're probably mad the libs haven't brought in forced abortion. 

I think one can convey unaffordability without referring to women's reproductive abilities.  

If incomes had kept up with the price of real estate things might not be so dire. 

I will say that the Liberal government help in daycare has actually made having a child more affordable. It's a small step but a helpful one. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

I think one can convey unaffordability without referring to women's reproductive abilities.  

But why would they? 

A dwindling population is a very serious problem for canada.  Affordability is one of the things that's impacting that. And what he said is quite true, by the time a couple (never mind a single woman) has had the chance to save enough to buy a home and thus have some stability to raise a child her childbearing years are behind her. 

Seriously, of all the things to manufacture faux outrage about, that one's kind of dumb. We need to have a healthy birth rate, at least some in the neighborhood of 2.3 which is just enough to replace ourselves. We're nowhere close to that

Does the idea of babies make you so squeamish that you are repulsed by the very idea of it or something? Why is this topic uncomfortable for you?

4 minutes ago, Boges said:

If incomes had kept up with the price of real estate things might not be so dire. 

That simply not possible the way things are. There are not enough homes for the number of people who want homes. So no matter what incomes are people are going to be bidding on a limited resource which means that only the highest bidder will win, and the lower bidders will have to do without.  As the resource becomes more and more scarce, more and more people at the bottom are left out.  And of course it directy has the same effect on rental for the same reasons. 

The liberals have done nothing to increase housing starts. Justin promised to in 2015, he was going to spend big money on it. Never happened. Now Carney is promising the same. It'll never happen.  Carney is literally word for word just stealing what PP has been saying for over a year about how 'people deserve to work hard and be able to afford a home".  it's just pure plagerism.  He has no intent to deliver. 

 

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I will say that the Liberal government help in daycare has actually made having a child more affordable. It's a small step but a helpful one. 

Not for the vast majority of people, and it has been brutally offset by the liberal induced increase in housing costs and food costs. 

No matter how you slice it, life in Canada right now is vastly more expensive in terms of the average income than it has ever been in our history and it's getting worse, and it will get worse again under carney who has been the liberal advisor on these issues for 5 years now and who is hiring the exact same people as advisors and cabinet. 

People need to wake the hell up, we are slipping in every positive category against other countries in the world.  Our wealth is going down, our investment is going down, productivity is down, GDP per capita which says how much tax revenue vs expenditures we can raise is plummeting (first time in history).  Housing prices are up, food prices are through the roof, high paying jobs are slowly vanishing and McJobs are increasing.  We have no military, we are easy prey for the americans. Our resource sectors have been nearly driven out of business. 

Things are BAD and you want to elect the exact same people who MADE it bad. 

But hey, we got 10 dollar a day child care.  Sort of. 

Failing national daycare is Liberals’ fault, not anyone else’s | Financial Post

[Boges]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But why would they? 

A dwindling population is a very serious problem for canada.  Affordability is one of the things that's impacting that. And what he said is quite true, by the time a couple (never mind a single woman) has had the chance to save enough to buy a home and thus have some stability to raise a child her childbearing years are behind her. 

Seriously, of all the things to manufacture faux outrage about, that one's kind of dumb. We need to have a healthy birth rate, at least some in the neighborhood of 2.3 which is just enough to replace ourselves. We're nowhere close to that

Does the idea of babies make you so squeamish that you are repulsed by the very idea of it or something? Why is this topic uncomfortable for you?

That simply not possible the way things are. There are not enough homes for the number of people who want homes. So no matter what incomes are people are going to be bidding on a limited resource which means that only the highest bidder will win, and the lower bidders will have to do without.  As the resource becomes more and more scarce, more and more people at the bottom are left out.  And of course it directy has the same effect on rental for the same reasons. 

The liberals have done nothing to increase housing starts. Justin promised to in 2015, he was going to spend big money on it. Never happened. Now Carney is promising the same. It'll never happen.  Carney is literally word for word just stealing what PP has been saying for over a year about how 'people deserve to work hard and be able to afford a home".  it's just pure plagerism.  He has no intent to deliver. 

 

Not for the vast majority of people, and it has been brutally offset by the liberal induced increase in housing costs and food costs. 

No matter how you slice it, life in Canada right now is vastly more expensive in terms of the average income than it has ever been in our history and it's getting worse, and it will get worse again under carney who has been the liberal advisor on these issues for 5 years now and who is hiring the exact same people as advisors and cabinet. 

People need to wake the hell up, we are slipping in every positive category against other countries in the world.  Our wealth is going down, our investment is going down, productivity is down, GDP per capita which says how much tax revenue vs expenditures we can raise is plummeting (first time in history).  Housing prices are up, food prices are through the roof, high paying jobs are slowly vanishing and McJobs are increasing.  We have no military, we are easy prey for the americans. Our resource sectors have been nearly driven out of business. 

Things are BAD and you want to elect the exact same people who MADE it bad. 

But hey, we got 10 dollar a day child care.  Sort of. 

Failing national daycare is Liberals’ fault, not anyone else’s | Financial Post

No, we're looking to elect a highly qualified economic mind. More qualified than a CPC leader that's only qualified at being a political attack dog. 

Name a developed nation where birth rate and affordability isn't a major problem. The US just elected someone that's goal is to make affordability worse. And he's on the "Conservative" team. Building more homes to reduce prices creates another problem with homeowners that only really have the equity in their home to fall back on because the erosion of pensions and the ability for people to save. 

I get the hate on for the Liberals, JT was arrogant and stubborn. But he's gone now. I've actually been quite impressed with how the Liberal team is looking to handle the Trump threat. 

It's telling that the newly elected PC leader in Ontario, Dofo, is refusing to campaign for PP and is more happy to work with the Liberals. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:09 PM by Boges

[Barquentine]

35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Kid, she never ever said PP aligns with Trump's policies. She said is policies align with the new reality we face from the states. 

Those are radically different things

I can't believer you're actually that stupid. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

18 hours ago, PIK said:

PP is getting the crowds out to hear him speak, carney is hiding most of the time. The libs do not want carney saying anything.  

OTOH expectations are lower for Carney. He’s benefiting from the ‘not a politician’ tag at the moment. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

The Chiang episode was damaging. He should have been fired immediately. There are no ‘jokes’ permissible on that subject. Our problems with CCP interference are going to get a lot worse so let’s put down a few markers now. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:00 PM by SpankyMcFarland

[TreeBeard]

12 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

OTOH expectations are lower for Carney. He’s benefiting from the ‘not a politician’ tag at the moment. 

Conservatives used to love this label.   Now they flipped and love that PP is a career politician since he was a little boy and hate Carney’s private sector experience and economic expertise.  
 

How did that happen?